Missing mass on sunday?

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The problem with this whole discussion is that the intent should be to go to mass because you (I) want to, to receive Jesus, not how to justify not going.
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Missing Mass on Sunday is a grave sin. When we say in the Creed that we are "One, Holy Catholic and apostolic…Remember the Catholic Church is not merely the sum of it’s members. “One” means one* thing. A collective belief in all that is taught by the Magisterium. If one doesn’t believe all that the Church teaches in matters of morals and doctrine than one is not Catholic. Stop pretending and take it all. Read the Cathecism and the Fathers(William Jurgens) C.S. Lewis only took it so far Mr. Darwin.*
 
I don’t know where you live, but I encourage you to explore the churches in your area (maybe even a bit of a distance from your area) for alternative Mass schedules. Some parishes with active youth ministries have later evening Masses on Sunday (like 8PM). Some have early early AM like 6:30. Check out Catholic college campuses or Newman centers - they may even do something wild like midnight or 3AM! Also, is there anyway to sneak out of work on your lunch time to a noon Mass?
 
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maggiec:
The problem with this whole discussion is that the intent should be to go to mass because you (I) want to, to receive Jesus, not how to justify not going.
maggiec
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I agree, but the opposite is also true. The intent in going to Mass isn’t what I get out of it, it is what I can offer as sacrifice to our Lord.
 
I would like to add for you and those who can’t seem to find a church when on vacation. Go to www.masstimes.org and you can find a church in any city in the U.S. and the mass times etc… I use this all the time when traveling for business or pleasure to maybe catch a weekday mass, or reconciliation, or Eucharistic Adoration.
 
Your profile indicates that you live in a city in Canada. There is a Canadian parish directory at:
oblates.ca/anthony/lookparname.asp

There are 10 parishes listed for your city, a number which includes Eastern Rite and French-language parishes. Unfortunately, the Canadian site does not keep track of Mass times, so you will need to phone the parishes yourself.
 
I’m kind of familiar with Piper and have read most of C.S.(REALLY GOOD)but although these guys and others have a part of the whole, they are well meaning and truly, as I’m sure you do, love Jesus. What I was saying is that as a fallen away Catholic of some 20 years I decided I was going to find out the whole thing for myself. I wondered why sola scriptura, sola fide folks like yourself believed that by saying the sinners prayer and doing the alter call, by accepting Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior, that you were saved. As it doesn’t say the exact words "don’t miss Mass on sunday in the bible, it doesn’t say anywhere the words “accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and now your saved.” We know that our Lord started A church not churches. How is it that after 1500 or so years that Luther got it right and everyone else was wrong. Anyway read some other stuff, find out for yourself. Your Catholic friends may not have the answers (just because they’re Catholic), find out dear brother for you won’t be disapointed and you will experience a freedom that you never thought possible. I have a boat load of great books that I would be happy to share. If you are interested I’ll mail them to you. If you can get Steven Raye’s “Crossing the Tiber”, I highly recommend it. C.S. was great but guys like Piper and the guy that is selling "a purpose driven anything you can imagine and Josh Mcdowell(?), these guys are lining they’re pockets. Peace and love George
 
ok so here is a scenario. There is a catholic nurse who works at a catholic hospital, however, she is scheduled to work saturday night shift and the sunday 12 hour shift (which happens cause my best friend is a nurse). She works at a catholic hospital so obviously her bosses are probably catholic as well. She misses mass. Is that a sin?
 
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raphaela:
ok so here is a scenario. There is a catholic nurse who works at a catholic hospital, however, she is scheduled to work saturday night shift and the sunday 12 hour shift (which happens cause my best friend is a nurse). She works at a catholic hospital so obviously her bosses are probably catholic as well. She misses mass. Is that a sin?
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No.
 
george eastlake:
I’m kind of familiar with Piper and have read most of C.S.(REALLY GOOD)but although these guys and others have a part of the whole, they are well meaning and truly, as I’m sure you do, love Jesus. What I was saying is that as a fallen away Catholic of some 20 years I decided I was going to find out the whole thing for myself. I wondered why sola scriptura, sola fide folks like yourself believed that by saying the sinners prayer and doing the alter call, by accepting Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior, that you were saved.
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First of all, I would not say for a minute that because I said a prayer or w/e that I am guaranteed eternal life. I think its a travesty that people live their lives thinking they don’t have to worry because they’re going to heaven. I would say that salvation comes only after you realize that you are longing for something and nothing in this world has been able to fufill that longing. God is what we are longing for but we can’t get to him because we are sinful, fallen creatures. I don’t need to give you a Sunday school lesson because I’m sure you know the rest…

Secondly, I do believe that the Bible is the one and only source of Truth. I think it is wrong to believe anything that does not have firm Scriptual basis.
george eastlake:
We know that our Lord started A church not churches. How is it that after 1500 or so years that Luther got it right and everyone else was wrong.
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I’m not a big fan of organized religion. Many churches today are corrupt and dead. I think there are instances of this within both the catholic and protestant churches. However, Jesus never said “I’m starting a church. Call it the Catholic church, make it the one true religion, and make some guy a pope.” There’s nothing wrong with being Protestant at all.
george eastlake:
C.S. was great but guys like Piper and the guy that is selling "a purpose driven anything you can imagine and Josh Mcdowell(?), these guys are lining they’re pockets.
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You have never read Mcdowell, Piper or Warren if you have that strong of a conviction about that, in my opinion. These men are strong believers who actually live out their faith radically.

I wish I had the time to write more…Thank you for your reply…

Devyn
 
Jesus never said that the bible was the only thing, either. In fact there weren’t any. Everything, at first, was passed on orally.

Catholics don’t believe that they are the only ones who have the chance at heaven (although some might, unfortunately). READ THE CHURCH FATHERS, they overlap with the Acts of the Apostles and Letters and Epistles, etc. A couple of them knew the Apostle John for instance. History is history. There will always be corrupt people in all things, like you said we are all sinners. The Church is not merely the sum of it’s members. Some of us have family members who at times don’t exemplify what family is supposed to be, that doesn’t mean that the institution called “family” no longer is valid. The Church for 2000 years has never changed regarding sacraments which we believe were handed down by Jesus or moral teachings like the sin of abortion, euthanasia, contraception, etc. *The Apostles were faily **organized *in what they taught. Tell me , what do you make of John chapter 6, it’s quite a dissertation and build up, no? Did Jesus mean what he said?
DEVYN, ALWAYS IN PEACE AND LOVE
GEORGE
QUOTE- One word that tells us what we do not know, outweighs a thousand words that tell us what we do know. And the thing is all the more striking if we not only did not know it but could not believe it. It may seem a paradox to say that the truth teaches us more by the words we reject than by the words we recieve. G.K. Chesterton. p.s. I really have read them, but can’t remember it all.
God Bless
 
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darwindidntknow:
Secondly, I do believe that the Bible is the one and only source of Truth. I think it is wrong to believe anything that does not have firm Scriptual basis.
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Why? On what basis is it the source of truth? Why does something have to have a firm scriptural basis to be believed?

After those questions are addressed, how to do reconcile that position with St. Paul, 2 Thessalonians 2:15
Douay-Rheims Bible:
Therefore, brethren, stand fast: and hold the traditions, which you have learned, whether by word or by our epistle.
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KJV Bible:
Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
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He is clearly talking about oral tradition being authoritative.
 
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