Missing Mass Q

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O.k. so lets take this to an everyday problem I am sure alot of us have. I am an average Jane who has a job that alot of times will keep me from mass on Sunday. And yes I do have the opportunity to go to mass sometimes during the week at 8am…(yikes) but haven’t made it yet. I have tried to get atleast every other sunday off due to church and youth group obligations but that isn’t a garanteed thing. Trust me when I say I feel the difference in my heart and soul when I don’t have communion…but what am I to do when we (my family and I) need me to have my job also. Feels like I am stuck in a catch 22.

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candrmail said:
O.k. so lets take this to an everyday problem I am sure alot of us have. I am an average Jane who has a job that alot of times will keep me from mass on Sunday. And yes I do have the opportunity to go to mass sometimes during the week at 8am…(yikes) but haven’t made it yet. I have tried to get atleast every other sunday off due to church and youth group obligations but that isn’t a garanteed thing. Trust me when I say I feel the difference in my heart and soul when I don’t have communion…but what am I to do when we (my family and I) need me to have my job also. Feels like I am stuck in a catch 22.

:heart:Rachel
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I think I follow you but we’re not discussing communion. We’re discussing attending Mass.

As far as your situation is concerned, I think we’ve already established that it would be best to get a dispensation from your pastor.
 
Mattjolley said:
Didn’t God rest after the creation? Are we not just fallible humans, unlike God? If he can rest after something as huge as creation, then I’m sure we are ‘allowed’ such rest as a holiday. How Pharisaic can you be? Just sayin’!
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Matt, before you start leveling the charge of Pharisee-ism, you need to understand just what the Pharisees did that was so wrong. The Pharisees were imposing priestly practices on the people, things that had nothing to do with the 10 commandments. That was Jesus’ main objection to them. It had nothing to do with the cultic sacrificial worship of Ancient Israel, something that Jesus did not object to because, first of all, His own Father dictated the norms and the sacrificial worship pointed to Jesus’ ultimate sacrifice on the cross, which brought it all to perfection.

Now, God mandated a day of rest so as to allow His people to worship Him in freedom, without hindrance. That was the main reason for the Sabbath. It was about worship and spending time with God, not just laying around the house and going on some sort of vacation.

When Jesus rose from the dead on a Sunday, the obligation of worship was moved from the Sabbath to Sunday.
 
FidesSpesCarita said:
Is it morally permissible to miss Mass in order to go camping for 3 days, a week, whatever?
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The Church and her Lord are not tyrants! The expectation is that Catholics will worship at Mass on Sundays (and days of obligation) unless unduly hindered. And one recognized hindrance is inaccessibility to a church. Or when you’re sick, or ice and snow have made the roads dangerous, etc.

So it be wrong to be casual about missing Mass … but also to obsess about it when you don’t reasonable access to it!
 
candrmail said:
O.k. so lets take this to an everyday problem I am sure alot of us have. I am an average Jane who has a job that alot of times will keep me from mass on Sunday. And yes I do have the opportunity to go to mass sometimes during the week at 8am…(yikes) but haven’t made it yet. I have tried to get atleast every other sunday off due to church and youth group obligations but that isn’t a garanteed thing. Trust me when I say I feel the difference in my heart and soul when I don’t have communion…but what am I to do when we (my family and I) need me to have my job also. Feels like I am stuck in a catch 22.

:heart:Rachel
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I hope I’m not just interjecting “more smoke” into this conversation, but back some years, when I was in personnel and management, it was a law that ALL employees were allowed sufficient time off for ‘religious observance’ – whatever their religion happened to be. I don’t know what kind of work you do – it doesn’t matter (all work can be elevated to HOLINESS) – but even if you OWN your business, if it is busy enough for you to be kept at work 60-80 hours per week, you can be spared for a couple of hours for Sunday Mass. I truly believe that if you make the effort to GET the time for worship and for the honor of God, He will bless you with MORE than what you are giving up to do it. Keep always in mind, that, He will NEVER be outdone in generosity. What you give to others, and even more what you give to Him, He will repay you many times over.
The same thing applies when a person ‘gives up’ some of their hard-earned and well-deserved vacation time to attend Mass. GOD KEEPS SCORE, and He will not forget your efforts (great or small) to give Him honor.
Be at peace. God loves you.
 
ConstantineTG said:
[BIBLEDRB]Mark 2:27[/BIBLEDRB]
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Constantine, the Sabbath was established to give man the freedom to worship God without the hindrance of work. That is why the “keeping Holy the Lord’s Day” is very much in line with worshipping God.

In fact, the Lord told Moses and Aaron to tell Pharoah to release the Hebrews so that the Chosen People could go and worship God.

Unfortunately, by the time we got to the Babylonian exile, the Chosen People had forgotten (more likely, neglected) to worship the one, true God and fell into repeated idolatry. That is why they wound up in exile. The Pharisees, whose movement began during this time period, held the mistaken belief that if they added prescriptions to the Law, they could help keep people from committing infractions. That is why you see almost 600+ “laws”, statutes that came into play during Jesus’ time, causing him to say what you quoted in Matthew’s Gospel.

Thus, the “day of rest” was established so that man could rest from work and freely worship God without constraints and restraints.
 
No it’s not permissible. Try finding a late mass, or camp close to a church. Christ died for us, we should live for him.
 
stevestone1988 said:
No it’s not permissible. Try finding a late mass, or camp close to a church. Christ died for us, we should live for him.
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That is incorrect. As we have already established…you can get a dispensation from your priest. What you are saying is not what the Church teaches.
 
What I can’t help but wonder…

If one is lucky enough that one’s trek through the wilderness does, in fact, bring one in close proximity to a Catholic Mass on Sunday…

…can one expect to be jumped upon by Catholic Answers Liturgy and Sacraments forum members for failing to have stuffed one’s “Sunday best” into a spare corner of one’s backpack so they can bathe and dress in the parish restroom?
 
Annabelle_Marie said:
What you are saying is not what the Church teaches.
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Some semantics in order here. The Church allows this under certain circumstances. I haven’t seen where it “teaches” it. You don’t “teach” people ways to miss Mass, as could be easily inferred by a reader of your post.
 
FidesSpesCarita said:
Is it morally permissible to miss Mass in order to go camping for 3 days, a week, whatever?

My gut answer is no. I cannot see any reason to miss Mass on purpose, no matter how nice camping would be. But, hoping I might get an answer that I like more, I am posting here.

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Why would you want to? You think “camping” is “nicer” than Holy Mass???
 
ProVobis said:
Some semantics in order here. The Church allows this under certain circumstances. I haven’t seen where it “teaches” it. You don’t “teach” people ways to miss Mass, as could be easily inferred by a reader of your post.
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Seriously…you people need a chill pill. My point was…the poster said it was NOT allowed…which is incorrect. And one could infer from his post that this was what the Church said on it…which is incorrect.

Wow…we wonder why people don’t want to be Catholic when we are busy beating everyone up…😦

I mean we had a priest post on here with what was allowed…but that is not GOOD enough for people…they apparently think they know better…
 
Annabelle_Marie said:
Seriously…you people need a chill pill. My point was…the poster said it was NOT allowed…which is incorrect. And one could infer from his post that this was what the Church said on it…which is incorrect.

Wow…we wonder why people don’t want to be Catholic when we are busy beating everyone up…😦

I mean we had a priest post on here with what was allowed…but that is not GOOD enough for people…they apparently think they know better…
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Hmmmmm…I’m just sayin’…since the 1970s “catechism”, some people do know better than some priests. 😉
 
We went to Alaska, a 15 day trip…On one Saturday, we were able to go to the Sacred Heart Cathedral…the next Sunday we were at sea…no mass on the ship.

I asked our priest and he told me God doesn’t ask you to do the impossible, if there is no mass then you can’t attend…so I took the readings with us…

On our trip to Maine, it was simple…Catholic Church nearby…Saturday afternoon…

I would just say ask your priest.

stormy
 
mmsiciliana said:
Hmmmmm…I’m just sayin’…since the 1970s “catechism”, some people do know better than some priests. 😉
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So…they are good enough to bring us the Eucharist but not to figure out if this is an acceptable dispensation? Is that what you are saying?
 
Annabelle_Marie said:
So…they are good enough to bring us the Eucharist but not to figure out if this is an acceptable dispensation? Is that what you are saying?
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Considering some priests think women should be ordained, others think young boys are there to be molested, and more than one thinks the pope needs to be replaced…

Priests are, first and foremost, men. They have, by Grace, been granted the power to confect the Eucharist… they have not been granted personal infallibility, nor even perfect sinlessness.

And some fall prey to Satan. Sad, but it happens. Even so, if the unknowing-yet-devout attend a mass by a priest who is a sinner, schismatic, and/or heretic, the liturgy is valid… for the benefit of the faithful, even as it further condemns the priest.
 
Annabelle_Marie said:
My point was…the poster said it was NOT allowed…which is incorrect. And one could infer from his post that this was what the Church said on it…which is incorrect.
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We’re talking divine law first and foremost. You can argue all you want about who allows what but Church or anyone else can’t change divine law.
 
SMHW said:
What I can’t help but wonder…

If one is lucky enough that one’s trek through the wilderness does, in fact, bring one in close proximity to a Catholic Mass on Sunday…

…can one expect to be jumped upon by Catholic Answers Liturgy and Sacraments forum members for failing to have stuffed one’s “Sunday best” into a spare corner of one’s backpack so they can bathe and dress in the parish restroom?
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LOL! I think coffee just came out of my nose…
 
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