Mitre v. Other hat?

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Latin bishops wear the mitre as a sign of their office. What is it that orthodox/easterner bishops wear on their head as a sign of their office? And the history behind it?
 
4givemeasinner said:
Latin bishops wear the mitre as a sign of their office. What is it that orthodox/easterner bishops wear on their head as a sign of their office? And the history behind it?
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Orthodox bishops also wear the Mitre…although it looks different than the Latin form.
 
The Orthodox mitre looks like a crown, but is still called a mitre.

As for the history, I assume it is to symbolize their sole authority over their territory.
 
The crown is a symbol of temporal power which came upon the Turkish Yoke. Prior to that the Bishops did not wear crowns, only the Emperor wore a crown. But since there was no longer any Emperor after the Fall of Constantinople, the Turks gave secular authority and responsibility to the Bishops for the Greeks (the conquered people of the fallen Byzantine Empire). This is when they started wearing the crown “mitre”. At the Nikonian Reforms the Russians adopted this practice as well.

Prior to that the bishops in the Byzantine Empire would wear this…

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4givemeasinner said:
Latin bishops wear the mitre as a sign of their office. What is it that orthodox/easterner bishops wear on their head as a sign of their office? And the history behind it?
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Orthodox bishops have the “omophor” or “omophorion” as a symbol of their authority. Wiki link
 
ConstantineTG said:
The crown is a symbol of temporal power which came upon the Turkish Yoke. Prior to that the Bishops did not wear crowns, only the Emperor wore a crown. But since there was no longer any Emperor after the Fall of Constantinople, the Turks gave secular authority and responsibility to the Bishops for the Greeks (the conquered people of the fallen Byzantine Empire). This is when they started wearing the crown “mitre”. At the Nikonian Reforms the Russians adopted this practice as well.

Prior to that the bishops in the Byzantine Empire would wear this…

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Only bishops in Russia would have worn that style of klobuk. It is a pre Nikonian klobuk worn in the Russian church. (now reserved to the Patriarch of Moscow and old believer monks and bishops) Take a look at what any Greek monk wears to see what was (and still is) worn by Byzantine bishops outside of the Slav lands.
 
UncleBill said:
Only bishops in Russia would have worn that style of klobuk. It is a pre Nikonian klobuk worn in the Russian church. (now reserved to the Patriarch of Moscow and old believer monks and bishops) Take a look at what any Greek monk wears to see what was (and still is) worn by Byzantine bishops outside of the Slav lands.
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Was it? I must have remembered wrong.

There is a podcast on AFR by Fr. Tom Hopko on the Divine Liturgy, the earlier parts he discussed the Liturgical vestments and he went into detail about the bishops. If people here want, they can look for that and they can hear the entire bit about Episcopal headwear.
 
ConstantineTG said:
Was it? I must have remembered wrong.
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I’m not 100% certain, but IIRC, think UncleBill is right.
ConstantineTG said:
There is a podcast on AFR by Fr. Tom Hopko on the Divine Liturgy, the earlier parts he discussed the Liturgical vestments and he went into detail about the bishops. If people here want, they can look for that and they can hear the entire bit about Episcopal headwear.
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OK, fine, but where’s the link? I suspect that anyone who was all that interested in the first place (which doesn’t include me) would have already had their fun with google. 🤷
 
malphono said:
Indeed (and the same applies to ECCs BTW), but an omophorion is certainly not worn on the head. 😉
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Well, maybe YOU don’t. 🙂

Anyway, I was responding to the “sign of the office” part, not the “on the head” part.
 
4givemeasinner said:
Latin bishops wear the mitre as a sign of their office. What is it that orthodox/easterner bishops wear on their head as a sign of their office? And the history behind it?
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Mitered Archpriests and Archimandrites also wear the miter.

It’s one of several signs of authority. The Panagia is also worn by the same groups.

Note that the coptic priest’s vestment hat looks much like a western mitre, but isn’t…
 
Aramis said:
Mitered Archpriests and Archimandrites also wear the miter.

It’s one of several signs of authority. The Panagia is also worn by the same groups.

Note that the coptic priest’s vestment hat looks much like a western mitre, but isn’t…
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Byzantine mitred priests (at least within Slavic rescensions and traditions) wear mitre which is quite flat at the top but bishops wear mitre with cross standing at the central part of its top.

I have fealing that Panagia is not so often (haven’t seen yet worn by priest), Byzantine priests usually wear pestoral cross. May be I just don’t have experiemce with “panagiaed” priests, only with mitred ones.
 
Nestor_kea said:
Byzantine mitred priests (at least within Slavic rescensions and traditions) wear mitre which is quite flat at the top but bishops wear mitre with cross standing at the central part of its top.

I have fealing that Panagia is not so often (haven’t seen yet worn by priest), Byzantine priests usually wear pestoral cross. May be I just don’t have experiemce with “panagiaed” priests, only with mitred ones.
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The Panagia is NOT worn by priests, archpriests or Archamandrites. It is reserved for bishops.

You are correct about the style of miter worn by Mitered Arch priests and Archimandrites.
 
Aramis said:
It’s one of several signs of authority. The Panagia is also worn by the same groups.
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The Panagia is not a sign of authority. Although it is exclusive to the bishops that is why some may see it that way, but it is actually a sign of the bishop’s servitude to his flock.
 
Nesotr kea said:
Byzantine mitred priests (at least within Slavic rescensions and traditions) wear mitre which is quite flat at the top but bishops wear mitre with cross standing at the central part of its top.
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UncleBill said:
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You are correct about the style of miter worn by Mitered Arch priests and Archimandrites.
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Just curious but don’t you know what’s on the top of a “priestly mitre”?
Some icon? what? something else? or nothing? Or does it vary?
Picture would be helpful. I couldn’t find any.
Thanks.
 
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