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rpp
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I feel so hopeless about that poor, innocent child. Lord somehow show them the truth.
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PauloFreire2
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Gay couples should not be allowed to raise children. It’s psychologically unhealthy. Any society that sanctions such madness is doomed.
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nydas
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Really? Got any proof? O wait. You don’t! Gay parents are just as fit to raise children as straight parents.Gay couples should not be allowed to raise children. It’s psychologically unhealthy. Any society that sanctions such madness is doomed.
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slyboots
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Mary C doesn’t make it easy for her parents to love her, I am sure. So how is that so different from me? God loves me in spite of all my sinfulness. Like God, the Cheney’s must continue to love their erring child even while hating her sin.
And in no way does this affect how the Cheney’s should feel about the innocent child. It will be a much loved grandchild no matter how it was conceived.
And in no way does this affect how the Cheney’s should feel about the innocent child. It will be a much loved grandchild no matter how it was conceived.
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Robert_Bay
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Please remember to post charitably and not to make blanket statements without showing evidence (normally a link to a news source).
Thank you for your cooperation.
Thank you for your cooperation.
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WenckebachCath
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This could happen to any of us. Mr Cheney, I’m sure, is making the best of the situation. If it were my child, I would also be forced to come to terms with the situation.
There are many heterosexuals who are unfit parents and living in irregular situations. I believe the rate for unwed motherhood was recently estimated to be 37%. What about those parents, should they be raising children?
My point is that we shouldn’t target homosexuals, when the hetereosexual population is so prone to sin.
There are many heterosexuals who are unfit parents and living in irregular situations. I believe the rate for unwed motherhood was recently estimated to be 37%. What about those parents, should they be raising children?
My point is that we shouldn’t target homosexuals, when the hetereosexual population is so prone to sin.
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siamesecat
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I’m sure her parents find it quite easy to love her - she seems to be a very loving daughter. She doesn’t make it easy for her dad’s career, for sure, but I don’t think they have any trouble loving her as their daughter. I applaud how the family handles it - Mary Cheney gives interviews in a way that does not insult the gay community or the Bush administration and supports her dad; Dick Cheney shows support of his daughter while balancing his political agenda. It’s a tough situation to be in, and with me being a non-Catholic, I think he could be a little more supportive of gay rights due to her situation, but I still think it is handled well. In the debates, John Edwards looked like the jerk when he pointed out Cheney’s daughter was a lesbian, and not Cheney, as the comment was supposed to imply.
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Holly3278
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Wrong. Gay “parents” are totally unfit to raise children! God intends for a man and a woman in the sacrament of holy matrimony to raise children, not two men or two women in blatant mortal sin. I don’t care what all the studies say and everything, a child raised by gay “parents” is much worse off than a child raised by a solid and loving heterosexual family.
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WenckebachCath
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I’m not sure that’s true, Holly. I’ve met some homosexuals who have very well adjusted children that are a credit to them. One man I know professionally, who left his wife for the homosexual life. His son is a college student and a very impressive young man, with excellent manners.
I don’t know what inner struggles these young people have, but outwardly many of them appear to be quite well adjusted. Therefore I don’t think you can paint all gay parents with the same broad brush.
I don’t know what inner struggles these young people have, but outwardly many of them appear to be quite well adjusted. Therefore I don’t think you can paint all gay parents with the same broad brush.
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dafalax
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Although i do not have a link, it is well documented that children do best when they live in a household with their biological father and biological mother. Your comment that we shouldn’t target gay parents when straight parents are prone to sin is illogical. Just because straight people have problems means that we should have no concern for ANY type of family structure? I don’t think so. It means that we should hold everyone up to the ideal, gay or straight. Straight parents shouldn’t have babies out of wedlock and those living a homosexual lifestyle shouldn’t try to have children. In the case you cited above, i don’t think the father was homosexual. If you are straight enough to have a child with your wife, you’re straight enough to stay in that marriage. How can you say the father was a good parent just because his son turned out okay? He sounds pretty selfish to me. One of my mother’s life goals was to have 4 kids, two boys and two girls. After 2 failed marriages and only one baby, her biological clock started ticking and she had her last three babies out of wedlock with three different guys. Selfish. She had a responsibility to provide us with a loving father in a secure home. Do i love her? Absolutely! But i will never acknowledge that what she did was right because it wasn’t. I recommend you adopt a similar attitude because you aren’t doing these children any favors by pretending that what their parents are doing is right.
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kim3260
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No matter what the child is here, and will be born in a few months. Lets just put aside differences in this situation and pray for the health and Soul of both mother and child.
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stadre
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Heather does not have a child unless she adopts Mary’s. It is one of the lies about “gay rights” that really get to me. Don’t people become parents either by conceiving or adopting a child? Heather, to my knowledge, has done neither. (Unless they used IVF and Mary is now carrying Heather’s baby.)
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BioCatholic
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That is a possibility that could give both of them parental rights to the child. One donates the egg, while the other carries it. Even under Virginia law they both have legal rights.
One donates the DNA from the egg, and the one who carries it gives her own hormones to direct and guide embryonic development. People always seem to forget that unless maternal hormones are present, the egg can NEVER fully develop. EVER. Estrogen/receptor complexes must enter the nuclei and activate certain developmental genes.
The point is moot anyway. In vitro is legal, there are no marriage requirements, government has no business in telling anyone who can choose to have IVF, or other relations. Aint no child protective service in the world gonna get anywhere near the VP daughter and granddaughter.
Imagine having Cheney as a grandfather. Just think, one day the kid will ask:
“So grandpa, what was it like when you ran the country?”
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JimG
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When one of a lesbian couple becomes pregnant, there has to be a man involved somewhere.
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Cristiano
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I know a 10 year old kid being raised by two “mothers” and he is showing some serious sexual identity problems. The other children tend to avoid him. As a catholic I have been teaching my son that it is wrong to push him away, and it looks like we are one of the few families that welcomes him for a meal when he shows up at the door. My son clearly separates the sins of the “mothers” from the kid. This child also has some other issues. However, I think that those are related to the general lack of parenting effort similarly to what I have observed in families with heterosexual parents.
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gam197
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I saw a TV documentary on PBS and the son of the lesbian featured turned out to be gay. In the book PTowne(Provincetown), the 2 lesbian women had two daughters and both turned out to be lesbians. The daughters were brought to the gay bars at a young age.
More studies have to be done to document how the lifestyle affects the children.
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Riley259
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Well said. A child has a right to be raised by a mother and a father. This arrangement will give the child the best chance at being healthy and emotionally well-adjusted - this is common sense and a no-brainer. Now, does this happen all the time in our world? Unfortunately not and many heterosexual parents for whatever reason turn out to be bad role models for their children…BUT, the fact remains that the most ideal arrangement is for the child to be brought by both biological opposite-sex parents and to suggest otherwise is proof that many in our society have “darkened intellects”. I’d recommend listening to this recent show (# 480) on EWTN’s “Life on the Rock” where the guest was raised by her gay father (and assorted partners) and the negative effects that had on her life.
ewtn.com/vondemand/audio/searchprog.asp
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Fitz
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I don’t have a mixed reaction. I am sad about this whole issue. I won’t put any woman down for wanting children in her life. If I had not had children I would have really missed out on this special parenting job God had planned for me. However, I don’t think that any same sex couple will have the optimal houselhold for raising a child.
Is it not up to me to control anyone else’s behavior. I have a friend that adopted and she was single. This child would have been living out his days in an orphanage in Europe. Is he better off with my friend- YES! Is it optimal, NO. However, many children do not have optimal childhoods and go on to live a completely wonderful life.
We, as Catholics, are not to use artificial insemination. So this situation is questionable even within a heterosexual marriage. I think too many are playing God in this whole thing.
Is it not up to me to control anyone else’s behavior. I have a friend that adopted and she was single. This child would have been living out his days in an orphanage in Europe. Is he better off with my friend- YES! Is it optimal, NO. However, many children do not have optimal childhoods and go on to live a completely wonderful life.
We, as Catholics, are not to use artificial insemination. So this situation is questionable even within a heterosexual marriage. I think too many are playing God in this whole thing.
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JimG
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Amen to that. When you separate procreation from sex, bad things happen. This is just the obverse of artificial contraception–artificial conception.
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