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What is a modern Catholic?
What is modern man?

Is modern man a myth?

What’s the difference between postmodern man and modern man?
 
What is a modern Catholic?
What is modern man?

Is modern man a myth?

What’s the difference between postmodern man and modern man?
Modern man is a legend in his own mind. He thinks he is smarter than the Almighty but in fact is headed straight for a torturous eternity in the fires of Hell. Unfortunately he is taking a lot of modern Catholics with him due to a lack of belief, abysmal Mass attendance and virtually zero participation in the sacraments. :cool:
 
Modern man is a legend in his own mind. He thinks he is smarter than the Almighty but in fact is headed straight for a torturous eternity in the fires of Hell. Unfortunately he is taking a lot of modern Catholics with him due to a lack of belief, abysmal Mass attendance and virtually zero participation in the sacraments. :cool:
Funny, because modern man was mentioned in the documents of Vatican 2.
 
Is this a genuine question or is this a veiled attempt to slander the Second Vatican Council?
 
Modern man is generally man in the modern world–that is, the post industrial revolution world and especially in the world directly after the two World Wars. He is mentioned by the Council because one of its goals was to reach out to modern man who, while often having good aspiriations (such as peace, etc.), was wounded and seeking their fulfillment in all the wrong places–whereas the Catholic faith contained the fulfillment modern man was seeking. However, as was mentioned earlier, this attempt was thwarted to a great extent because there was also present in modern man an underestimated spirit of pride sprouting from a kind of evolutionism (later=better) which led to the rebellion against convention and authority we saw in society and the Church in the 1960s and 70s. Post-modern man has become apathetic and often no longer even has aspirations beyond immediate gratification. While pride may still be there to some extent, it’s often overwhelmed by sloth.
 
Is this a genuine question or is this a veiled attempt to slander the Second Vatican Council?
If it is such an attempt, the thread will have to be closed.

Please keep this thread focused on the questions asked by the OP and do not extrapolate into discussion of Vatican II. Thank you.
 
Modern man is generally man in the modern world–that is, the post industrial revolution world and especially in the world directly after the two World Wars. He is mentioned by the Council because one of its goals was to reach out to modern man who, while often having good aspiriations (such as peace, etc.), was wounded and seeking their fulfillment in all the wrong places–whereas the Catholic faith contained the fulfillment modern man was seeking. However, as was mentioned earlier, this attempt was thwarted to a great extent because there was also present in modern man an underestimated spirit of pride sprouting from a kind of evolutionism (later=better) which led to the rebellion against convention and authority we saw in society and the Church in the 1960s and 70s. Post-modern man has become apathetic and often no longer even has aspirations beyond immediate gratification. While pride may still be there to some extent, it’s often overwhelmed by sloth.
Thanks. Very good answer.
 
I suppose you could say that the modern European man or North American man is also a person who is living in a post Christian age and society. I believe modern man faces more difficulties in his faith journey due to the fact that secularism has made living the Christian lifestyle even harder in this day and age. However, this is just my opinion.
 
I suppose you could say that the modern European man or North American man is also a person who is living in a post Christian age and society. I believe modern man faces more difficulties in his faith journey due to the fact that secularism has made living the Christian lifestyle even harder in this day and age. However, this is just my opinion.
I think that’s a fair assessment.
 
In my opinion Genesis315 and Dempsey1919 have defined very well what we mean today by “modern man”. Of course in another decade or two that definition may change, but I think these definitions fit very well with what the documents of Vatican II were trying to say.🙂
 
How can the Church reach out to postmodern man?

How can Christ transform his sloth into charity? Of course Jesus can do that because He is God.
How can the Church facilitate that transformation?
 
Or is the Church the world converted. And the world hates it’s opposite. The kingdom of God and the kingdom of man.
 
Modern Catholic are Catholics living in the contemporary age, as opposed to Medival Catholics, First Century Catholics, etc. As such, there are specialized challenges that exist today, as there have been in all ages.
 
How can the Church reach out to postmodern man?

By telling him the same message that she has told for 2000 years. The form of the words may change, but the message remains exactly the same. “Modern man” at his core has the same problems and desires that the most primitive person did.

How can Christ transform his sloth into charity? Of course Jesus can do that because He is God.

I’m afraid you’ll have to ask the Almighty regarding the methods He employs. He and I are on good terms, but he has not made me privy to them.

How can the Church facilitate that transformation?

By fearlessly teaching the truth in a manner that is accessible to modern man, without compromising a single bit of the message.
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Paul
 
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