Modern day prophecy

[Heavens_Flowers]

I received a prophecy for my son, and I was wondering what am I suppose to do with it if anything? Am I suppose to report it to the vatican? Follow the instructions(of course)? Has anyone else received this tremendous blessing before? Also if you’ve read my forum saints working in our lives under St. Therese of Liseux then you know this isn’t the first “call” from our Lord. But I’m just wondering is there something I’m suppose to be doing with all these blessings? When we received the prophecy I wasn’t planning to go see the guest speaker at church but at my mother-in-laws insistence I went, and Brendan Case who is called a modern day prophet came up to me and my infant son and said

God revealed this through Brendan Case for my son on September 14, 2009

“The Lord will say this, behold I shall glorify my name in this my son. Raise him to walk in humility, for teach him to be simple and to not desire the things of this Earth, for I will give him much more than things that are here today and gone tomorrow. Humility will be the hallmark of his life, behold my name will be holy within him.”

Does anyone know what I’m suppose to do with these?

 

[littlequestion]

Ignore that. Catholics do not practice that kind of thing. That is consulting fortune-tellers about your son’s future. Whatever kind of prophet that speaker is being called, I don’t understand what he was doing in a Catholic church. Certainly, at least, get direction from a priest, before you try to approach the Vatican.

 

[Heavens_Flowers]

The priest invited him. I don’t believe it was a fortune teller, he was doing a talk on modern day prophecy that was extremely interesting, and he wears a full body scapular beceause he said God told him to. Also prophecies are all throughout the bible so why would I believe it to be false? Nothing in it contradicts teachings of the bible that I’m aware of. A monsignor of our Parish also attended the seminar, and the next week he went to a nearby parish.

 

[littlequestion]

The catholic church has opened the door to a lot of stuff that is very disturbing. I have been to a Charismatic meeting that was fully demonic. Prayed for protection of Holy Spirit and left quickly… That certificate from the Bishop looks like the kind of routine thing that the Bishop provides assuring people he is not some kind of criminal and does not indicate that the Bishop has detailed knowledge or approval of what he is doing. The program in the website does not show that he is walking up to people and making prophetic statements.

Also, if you carefully read that statement, it does not prophesy anything at all. It is just plain common advice about how anyone should raise a child in the Church. What disturbs me is that this guy is exploiting your good faith by puffing himself up as some kind of spiritual superman.

He’s a charlatan with a guitar and a monk suit. Unfortunately, the Church is full of those.

If you are looking for a deeper walk with God, look into Traditional Catholicism and put the circus aside. That Brendan Case stuff will surely do harm to your son’s mental health if you pursue it uncritically.

 

[Heavens_Flowers]

That was kinda what I thought at first but my husband and his family have made such a big deal over it and even consulted the bishop, which embarrassed me a little cuz I’m a shy person in the flesh. Plus everything I’ve looked up about him has been negative but my husbands family which are devout cradle catholic (I’m converted myself) insist this is the true real thing and tell me not to doubt God, when I question this. I have two other children, and theve actually made reference that my son is some how set above my daughters which really ticked me off. I was hoping if I sent it to the vatican and it was shot down there they might actually believe me, as of now they do not. Also here is the Brendan Case websitedodgecitycathedral.com/

 

[vindicated]

It seems to me that authentic prophecies are usually given to very humble and unlikely souls. I don’t have a good feeling about him for some reason.

 

[littlequestion]

That was kinda what I thought at first but my husband and his family have made such a big deal over it and even consulted the bishop, which embarrassed me a little cuz I’m a shy person in the flesh. Plus everything I’ve looked up about him has been negative but my husbands family which are devout cradle catholic (I’m converted myself) insist this is the true real thing and tell me not to doubt God, when I question this. I have two other children, and theve actually made reference that my son is some how set above my daughters which really ticked me off. I was hoping if I sent it to the vatican and it was shot down there they might actually believe me, as of now they do not. Also here is the Brendan Case websitedodgecitycathedral.com/

Your best bet is to find a traditional Catholic Mass somewhere near you and start attending it. If your relatives are devout, they won’t listen to arguments or logic because this is the kind of thing that plays off “faith”, but they cannot argue with Catholic Tradition. In fact, it is exactly in the years after most parishes stopped offering the Latin Mass that these kinds of things started to take hold among Catholics who were being denied good teachings in those first years of post-V-II.

Start a Rosary devotional and let that take control of these free-form spiritual pursuits in your family. The Blessed Virgin will help you and your son stay grounded while the rest will respect that. Stick with the tried and true Saints and show your husband and his parents the Bible scripture that warns against running after prophecies and see if you can get a pastoral counselor on your side. One problem I see is that this guy looks like he brings a lot of attention to a church and maybe they raise money, so they don’t want to challenge him, but a good pastoral counselor would not want a boy puffed up like that.

Is the priest who is allowing this involved with the Latin Mass or is he more modern?

 

[Heavens_Flowers]

Our Priest does Latin mass once every 3 weeks the rest of the time its in English. I thought it was traditional…he doesnt very modern to me.

 

[Heavens_Flowers]

Ok went to check to give accurate information. It is Tradition. We have latin mass on 1 st and 3rd Sundays. I don’t attend Latin Mass because I don’t understand Latin (convert) so me and my family go to the English mass.

 

[LaLucia]

My advise is to not make a big deal about the prophecy for your son. The words are words that can apply to any child or adult.
I also advise is to keep the information to yourself so people don’t laugh at you if you happen to be a shy person and don’t want to get your feelings hurt.

 

[prodigalson12]

He essentially told you the kid is “slow” or mentally retarded, God has special graces for these types, treasures included. Do, do your best to make sure what ever talents he has, are fully supported, it would be nice to see the young man, in spite of his mental difficulties, do things in his life those with full faculties only can dream of and ignore that so called “prophecy” in spite of the pessimistic direction he gave you…

 

[Heavens_Flowers]

He essentially told you the kid is “slow” or mentally retarded, God has special graces for these types, treasures included. Do, do your best to make sure what ever talents he has, are fully supported, it would be nice to see the young man, in spite of his mental difficulties, do things in his life those with full faculties only can dream of and ignore that so called “prophecy” in spite of the pessimistic direction he gave you…

Excuse you but my son is not “retarded”.your response is ignorant.

La Lucia
Thank you for your thoughts, I myself don’t really think its true. My husbands family is the pressures of this one, that’s why I was shy, I didn’t want to take critism for something I myself wasn’t even convinced was true. I also didn’t want someone laughing at my husband or his family. There very faithful catholics, that’s why I wanted to ask here and see, to save them from embarrassment so to speak.

Little question
Thank your for the thought of including them in a devotional, we pray the rosary nightly
And I will definetely add them into, also I will pray to the Virgin Mary for help.

 

[Heavens_Flowers]

Your best bet is to find a traditional Catholic Mass somewhere near you and start attending it. If your relatives are devout, they won’t listen to arguments or logic because this is the kind of thing that plays off “faith”, but they cannot argue with Catholic Tradition. In fact, it is exactly in the years after most parishes stopped offering the Latin Mass that these kinds of things started to take hold among Catholics who were being denied good teachings in those first years of post-V-II.

Start a Rosary devotional and let that take control of these free-form spiritual pursuits in your family. The Blessed Virgin will help you and your son stay grounded while the rest will respect that. Stick with the tried and true Saints and show your husband and his parents the Bible scripture that warns against running after prophecies and see if you can get a pastoral counselor on your side. One problem I see is that this guy looks like he brings a lot of attention to a church and maybe they raise money, so they don’t want to challenge him, but a good pastoral counselor would not want a boy puffed up like that.

Is the priest who is allowing this involved with the Latin Mass or is he more modern?

Can you point me in the right direction of a verse that I can recomend for them? I will go speak with the Fr. Or Monsignor at our parish in the morning, maybe he will talk to them, I know they would listen to what he has to say. Thank you so much for our your great advise. I just joined the church about 6 years ago so I’m still learning. But this past year I have been studing a lot, but I’m certainly nowhere near an expert yet! Thanks so much!!

 

[Moscati]

The Catechism says of charisms (like prophecy) that:

1. "Charisms are to be accepted with gratitude by the person who receives them and by all members of the Church as well. They are a wonderfully rich grace for the apostolic vitality and for the holiness of the entire Body of Christ, provided they really are genuine gifts of the Holy Spirit and are used in full conformity with authentic promptings of this same Spirit, that is, in keeping with charity, the true measure of all charisms.[Cf. 1 Cor 13 .] "

This understanding comes from St. Paul’s letter to the Corinthians (ch. 13), where he says one could make all the prophecies in the world, but it means nothing without love. If this alleged prophecy is causing your family to set your son above his siblings, then it seems to me that it may not be in keeping with charity. In any case, I think you could gently remind your husband’s family of St. Paul’s admonition, and just let the fervor over the prophecy die down.

I also wanted to say that attending an EF Mass or being “traditional” does not guarantee that one won’t run across superstitions and/or “free-form” spiritual practices. In fact, one may come across them just as much, but they take different forms. My grandmother, God bless her, is a very traditional Catholic who always attends Mass in Latin if she can. For years, she believed it was perfectly okay to worship the Virgin Mary, and that she was on the same level as the Holy Spirit. I’m still not sure she’s convinced.

Finally, just as an aside, you don’t have to know Latin to benefit from a Latin Mass! I don’t, and I love the one we have in town every other week or so–they’re so beautiful! There will usually be a missal-type booklet with translations for you, so you can start to learn, and the readings and the homily are in English. It’s actually become a sort of evangelistic tool around my university–all the Latin students, Catholic or not, love to come and hear it spoken aloud.

 

[thistle]

I received a prophecy for my son, and I was wondering what am I suppose to do with it if anything? Am I suppose to report it to the vatican? Follow the instructions(of course)? Has anyone else received this tremendous blessing before? Also if you’ve read my forum saints working in our lives under St. Therese of Liseux then you know this isn’t the first “call” from our Lord. But I’m just wondering is there something I’m suppose to be doing with all these blessings? When we received the prophecy I wasn’t planning to go see the guest speaker at church but at my mother-in-laws insistence I went, and Brendan Case who is called a modern day prophet came up to me and my infant son and said

God revealed this through Brendan Case for my son on September 14, 2009

“The Lord will say this, behold I shall glorify my name in this my son. Raise him to walk in humility, for teach him to be simple and to not desire the things of this Earth, for I will give him much more than things that are here today and gone tomorrow. Humility will be the hallmark of his life, behold my name will be holy within him.”

Does anyone know what I’m suppose to do with these?

Sounds like you are a gullible person. Forget about it. As other posters have said this verges on fortune telling which is a grave sin.
Just because somebody claims to be a prophet does not mean he is! ONLY the Church can discern such a thing.

 

[puzzleannie]

you take all such alleged private revelations, whether it is a message you feel has come to you personally, or something told to you by a third party, to your priest-confessor or spiritual director.

there is no value whatever in discussing them with anonymous third parties on the internet, even in place like this

you do not act on them or pass them on without permission from your spiritual director or confessor. that is the classic advice of Catholic spiritual direction from Teresa and John of the Cross on down

if there is some character wandering around your diocese claiming to prophecy, heal, preach, reveal messages or whatever call the bishop’s office and find out if that individual is authorized to work publicly in the diocese. If he is not, he is not reliable no matter what he wears. The monsignior could have been there to investigate and report to the bishop, that is no assurance this whosis is reliable.

Get your teaching from your own priest in your own parish and the Mass and sacraments and proclamation of scripture in your own parish. Don’t go looking for the next best thing.

 

[wolfgang]

He essentially told you the kid is “slow” or mentally retarded, God has special graces for these types, treasures included. Do, do your best to make sure what ever talents he has, are fully supported, it would be nice to see the young man, in spite of his mental difficulties, do things in his life those with full faculties only can dream of and ignore that so called “prophecy” in spite of the pessimistic direction he gave you…

How did you come to this conclusion? My goodness! I would put no stock into what Brendan Case has said, but really, to come up with this is a bit of a stretch! What an awful thing to say.

you take all such alleged private revelations, whether it is a message you feel has come to you personally, or something told to you by a third party, to your priest-confessor or spiritual director.

there is no value whatever in discussing them with anonymous third parties on the internet, even in place like this

Get your teaching from your own priest in your own parish and the Mass and sacraments and proclamation of scripture in your own parish. Don’t go looking for the next best thing.

Sage advice.

 

[michaeldaniels]

Listen or read some of Matthew Arnold’s story on prophecy and the new age…very enlightening

I received a prophecy for my son, and I was wondering what am I suppose to do with it if anything? Am I suppose to report it to the vatican? Follow the instructions(of course)? Has anyone else received this tremendous blessing before? Also if you’ve read my forum saints working in our lives under St. Therese of Liseux then you know this isn’t the first “call” from our Lord. But I’m just wondering is there something I’m suppose to be doing with all these blessings? When we received the prophecy I wasn’t planning to go see the guest speaker at church but at my mother-in-laws insistence I went, and Brendan Case who is called a modern day prophet came up to me and my infant son and said

God revealed this through Brendan Case for my son on September 14, 2009

“The Lord will say this, behold I shall glorify my name in this my son. Raise him to walk in humility, for teach him to be simple and to not desire the things of this Earth, for I will give him much more than things that are here today and gone tomorrow. Humility will be the hallmark of his life, behold my name will be holy within him.”

Does anyone know what I’m suppose to do with these?

 

[littlequestion]

Can you point me in the right direction of a verse that I can recomend for them? I will go speak with the Fr. Or Monsignor at our parish in the morning, maybe he will talk to them, I know they would listen to what he has to say. Thank you so much for our your great advise. I just joined the church about 6 years ago so I’m still learning. But this past year I have been studing a lot, but I’m certainly nowhere near an expert yet! Thanks so much!!

God is so good! I went over to my Bible link with no clear idea where to start looking for something that might reach your relatives, and look what is on the front page, regarding a new or modern prophet:

latinvulgate.com/verse from Ecclesiastes:

*Ecc. 1:10 Nothing under the sun is new, neither is any man able to say: Behold this is new: for it hath already gone before in the ages that were before us. *

Paul covers a lot of this in Colossians, Chapter 2, especially verses 16-18 and the book of Ephesians also is very useful because in it Paul speaks strongly of how we all have the Spirit of Christ in us, therefore we do not need to go running about looking for it in others. You should read the whole book, because it is not really a good idea to just snip a verse out here and there, since that will only allow your opponent to snip other verses to refute yours.

Best just to get your family to relax and let you raise your child in quiet wisdom and keep their spiritual entertainments to themselves.

As far as the Latin Mass goes, you don;t have to understand Latin. The Gospel and Homily is in English. I don’t understand much Latin, but the singing is beautiful and I have picked up enough from back in the old days to be able to match what I hear with what is written. I use a side-by-side pocket Missal, (Latin & English), and I find it useful for daily prayer as well as for Mass. Here is a publisher:

neumannpress.com

 

[Lief_Erikson]

There have been a lot of critical comments made here about this maybe prophecy. Contrary to what some here seem to be implying, God CAN make genuine prophecies to Christians here on Earth revealing the future. The fact that a person speaks a maybe prophecy over someone does not mean fortune-telling or divination is going on. The prophecy might be truly from God, it might be demonic, it might be the speaker’s imagination running away with him, or any number of things. It’s hard to know whether it’s genuine or not. That’s why St. John of the Cross tells us to take such things in stride, tell it to our spiritual directors and then continue along our spiritual journey, leaving the experience behind. If it comes true, it comes true, if it doesn’t, it doesn’t. If it’s from God, it will come true whether we believe the words or not. Our reaction doesn’t matter unless the experience calls us to a specific course of action, in which case we need to act in union with our spiritual directors.

I don’t know if this prophecy is genuine or not, personally, but the advice it makes is sound, provided you don’t put extra pressure on your son to be humble because of this that leads him to exasperation, or anything like that.

If I were you, Heavens Flowers, I’d follow St. John’s advice for these kinds of phenomenon. Teach your son humility, just like you teach him the other virtues, just as any Christian parent should. Raise your child well in the love of God, treating him the same as your daughter and simply being a loving parent. Just raise him in the virtuous life, forget about the prophecy, and if it’s from God it’ll come true, and God’s will shall be wonderfully done. It may come true whether the prophecy’s a fraud or not, as humility is certainly one virtue you’ll be aiming for as you raise your son! We can hope and pray that this is the case .

Don’t let yourself, and try not to let your family, get overly focused on experiences like this, for growing in and spreading the love of God to our neighbors is what really fulfills the will of God.

God bless you and all your family!