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I was thinking to myself the other day…how many Americans would be willing to sell their possessions and move into the ghetto and wander around telling about Jesus and His Church? No place to stay, no money, only clothes, walking shoes, and faith. I cannot even imagine how blessed that person would be…it’s amazing to think of what kind of graces that person would receive from heaven…

Thoughts?
 
actually I do know several people who practice this brand of practical evangelization tied with evangelical poverty, and yes some of them are Franciscans, here and in several cities around the country, including Detroit (and no, to my knowledge, they did not line up to get their handout).
 
I was thinking to myself the other day…how many Americans would be willing to sell their possessions and move into the ghetto and wander around telling about Jesus and His Church? No place to stay, no money, only clothes, walking shoes, and faith. I cannot even imagine how blessed that person would be…it’s amazing to think of what kind of graces that person would receive from heaven…

Thoughts?
Many religous pretty much have to do this, some more than others…

The Franciscan Friars of the Renewal are a great example of this if you really research them or visit them in New York… franciscanfriars.com/
 
*I love hearing that there are those out there that do give up all their possessions to follow in the footsteps of Our Lord, Jesus Christ!
God Bless them!!!
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I love what Father Jim Ferry said one time while visiting a very wealthy Franciscan Convent, “If this is the way they practice Poverty, I would hate to see how they practice Celebacy!”

St. Francis found himself thrown out of the leadership of his own Franciscan Movement because his followers could not stomach his stark form of poverty, so we can only imagine how many are true practitioners of it today…especially with all these traveling Franciscan Musicians who charge an arm and a leg for their performances so that small struggling parishes can’t afford them…sad, truly sad…

That being said, there are some who have remained true to the Rule of 1221, abeit very few.
 
Read City of Joy. The movie was very different from the book; don’t bother with it. The book is “fiction” but is based on real characters who did just that in the slums of India.

Also, read “Under the Overpass”, written by a young evangelical who also did it. He felt challenged by the Gospels to live among street people for a year.

There are more, too. Lots. These are my favorite reading materials. Don’t limit yourselves just to Catholic books; there are people of all denominations doing this. It’s just a matter of weeding through the Christian books to find them.
 
A priest among our faith has indicated he thought the President was a modern day St. Francis. I suppose so in some respects fast forward hundreds of years and the want to make a difference for the good of everyone regardless of race and creed. God bless America.
 
A priest among our faith has indicated he thought the President was a modern day St. Francis. I suppose so in some respects fast forward hundreds of years and the want to make a difference for the good of everyone regardless of race and creed. God bless America.
That was a very unfortunate article. He created problems and made no contribution of any significance. The article simply lends itself to misunderstanding about St. Francis.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
That was a very unfortunate article. He created problems and made no contribution of any significance. The article simply lends itself to misunderstanding about St. Francis.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
Do you think he would be banned from CAF if he posted those thoughts here or just be severely admonished and docked a few points and told to not talk about it again?
 
Do you think he would be banned from CAF if he posted those thoughts here or just be severely admonished and docked a few points and told to not talk about it again?
I have no idea.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
I have no idea.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
Has anything become of him as a result. Has he been admonished? I can’t voice an opinion as I did not read his original on this, but heard about it. Obama has lots of respect and his rating rose for the first time since in office this week as to an AP poll. He has my blessings and more importantly, God’s.
I’m sure many will agree.
 
By the way, as an update, Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize. The last sitting presidents of the US were Teddy and Woodrow. Jimmy won it in retirement. God bless Barack and his diplomacy. We’ve got a good one in him as a world spokesman.
 
A priest among our faith has indicated he thought the President was a modern day St. Francis. I suppose so in some respects fast forward hundreds of years and the want to make a difference for the good of everyone regardless of race and creed. God bless America.
St. Francis would not have killed babies.
 
I love what Father Jim Ferry said one time while visiting a very wealthy Franciscan Convent, “If this is the way they practice Poverty, I would hate to see how they practice Celebacy!”

St. Francis found himself thrown out of the leadership of his own Franciscan Movement because his followers could not stomach his stark form of poverty, so we can only imagine how many are true practitioners of it today…especially with all these traveling Franciscan Musicians who charge an arm and a leg for their performances so that small struggling parishes can’t afford them…sad, truly sad…

That being said, there are some who have remained true to the Rule of 1221, abeit very few.
I can’t defend how many Franciscan communities in the USA have relaxed on the whole issue of communal poverty. I know that the argument always is that what is poverty in the USA is wealth in another country, etc. We are not going to change some people’s minds, so we may as well just begin with new communities and hope tha Franciscan movement in the USA.

The Capuchins alone have given birth to several very strong and austere communities. Though the Capuchins tend to be austere themselves. But we have the Franciscans of the Renewal, the Franciscans of the Primitive Observance and they provided Fr. Angelus Shaughnessy to be the formation director for the new congregation, Franciscans of the Eternal Word. My own community, Franciscan Brothers of Life, which is still in its infancy state, was inspired by Cardinal O’Malley. We also have the Little Brothers of St. Francis and the Franciscan Brothers of Peace. Let’s not forget the Franciscans of the Immaculate inspired by St. Maximilian Kolbe and the Franciscan Brothers and Sisters of the Eucharist. So there is a lot of good coming from the Franciscan family. The wonderful thing is that the four obediences: OFM, OFM Conv, OFM Cap, and TOR are very supportive of these newer branches of the family, unlike the past where there were conflicts that required papal interventions.

I can only speak abuot my own community. We do sleep where ever we can find shelter. The way that we function is that one person holds a job that pays a salary and the other brothers work full-time for Respect Life. That person who works pays the bills. If you have depenedents, such as elderly parents or as in my case, I’m a widower and have a son, any money that you bring in goes to your dependent, not to the community. The community recognizes that your dependents are also part of the fraternity.

Right now we are in the process of discernment with the bishop, through a spiritual assistant that he has assigned to us. This is part of the stage of being erected as a Diocesan Congregation, independent of the larger Franciscan Order. But in the meantime, we remain under the canonical jurisdiction of the spiritual assistant of the Third Order. One spiritual assistant makes sure that we are in line with the rule of St. Francis and the other helps us discern whether God is truly calling us to serve Respect Life in total poverty, silence, penance, prayer, brotherhood, and on the streets. We do allow ourselves some luxuries (if you can call it that). These are for the sole purpose of spreading the word about St. Francis and about the dignity of life. There are two things that we are allowed to have: a computer, which I’m using and a cell phone, which we share.

We have turned some people away and some have left us, because they find that our poverty is very difficult for them. The idea of being totally dependent on one brother to bring home the bacon and what he can’t, we depend on charity to eat, frightens some people. But as penitents, we believe that we cannot promote the Gospel of Life without penance. It is not enough to speak about it or pray in front of an abortion clinic. All of these acts have to be accompanied by intense penance, prayer, and brotherhood. As Jeus said, “This kind of demon can onlly be cast out by fasting.” We also give our lives to promote every person’s right to live freely in order to worship God and find God. This too is a principle of the Gospel of life.

For a Brother of Life the driving statement by our holy Father Francis is not only the rule, but equally important to us is the Canticle of the Creatures. It reveals a theological depth that few understand. Francis reveals to us the presence of the Incarnate Christ in everything and sustaining everything. He reminds us that even if you could quiet heaven and the Church, all of Creation would shout out and proclaim God as creator by reminding us of him. Therefore, every created being, especially man, proclaims the power and the workd of God to save. Like our holy Father Francis, we protect and we venerate what comes from the hand of the Father. But we cannot do it without more Brothers of Life. Like the marines, we’re looking for a few good men.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
*Dear Br. JR,
Thank you so much for your contribution to this thread! I am so proud of you. It is such a honor to hear about those that give for the LOVE and GLORY of GOD!
God Bless you,
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The Capuchins alone have given birth to several very strong and austere communities. Though the Capuchins tend to be austere themselves. But we have the Franciscans of the Renewal, the Franciscans of the Primitive Observance and they provided Fr. Angelus Shaughnessy to be the formation director for the new congregation, Franciscans of the Eternal Word. My own community, Franciscan Brothers of Life, which is still in its infancy state, was inspired by Cardinal O’Malley. We also have the Little Brothers of St. Francis and the Franciscan Brothers of Peace. Let’s not forget the Franciscans of the Immaculate inspired by St. Maximilian Kolbe and the Franciscan Brothers and Sisters of the Eucharist. So there is a lot of good coming from the Franciscan family.
As the saying goes, “Only God knows how many Franciscans there are.”
 
As the saying goes, “Only God knows how many Franciscans there are.”
There are three mysteries that the Church will never know until we reach heaven.
  1. The Trinity.
  2. The actual number of Franciscans.
  3. The number of people who ACTUALLY work in the Vatican.
Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
I was thinking to myself the other day…how many Americans would be willing to sell their possessions and move into the ghetto and wander around telling about Jesus and His Church? No place to stay, no money, only clothes, walking shoes, and faith. I cannot even imagine how blessed that person would be…it’s amazing to think of what kind of graces that person would receive from heaven…

Thoughts?
I did it years ago and I would not recommend it.
 
I did it years ago and I would not recommend it.
Why not? We have brothers who live that way and they are very holy men. I’m not a very holy man, but I took my turn living that way too. It was a very special time in my life. We were able to serve many people and to bring the Word of God’s love to many who never felt loved before. This was probably the greatest help that we offered.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
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