Modern indulgences

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Does the church or I should say specifically the magisterium have the power to change indulgences? From what they were a long time ago to what they are now? I guess the praying before a crucifix is now valid. You can I guess even get a plenary indulgence if you pary on the Fridays of lent after eucharist and praying for the pope’s intentions and saying a special prayer before the crucifix.

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Does the church or I should say specifically the magisterium have the power to change indulgences? From what they were a long time ago to what they are now? I guess the praying before a crucifix is now valid. You can I guess even get a plenary indulgence if you pary on the Fridays of lent after eucharist and praying for the pope’s intentions and saying a special prayer before the crucifix.

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Indulgences are sacramental, meaning they are sources of grace instituted by the Church. So yes, it does have the power to change them, issue new ones, revoke old ones, change the circumstances under which they may be granted, etc. The power for indulgences relates specifically to the authority to bind and loose, granted Peter by Christ in, e.g., Matt. 16:19.
 
yinekka said:
The Handbook of Indulgences 1986 can be found online at:

holyjoe.net/indulgences/

Of course I found this site after I had purchased a hard copy! :o
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1986? Isn’t there a more updated copy? Amazon has a 1992 version (click here) and also a Manual of Indulgences from 2006 (click here). Which book is the “official” indulgence book…manual or handbook? Also, shouldn’t we always go for the newest in case things have changed?
 
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1986? Isn’t there a more updated copy? Amazon has a 1992 version (click here) and also a Manual of Indulgences from 2006 (click here). Which book is the “official” indulgence book…manual or handbook? Also, shouldn’t we always go for the newest in case things have changed?
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This is the way I understand a partial indulgence. After communition you can go before a crucifix after praying for the pope’s intentions or saying a out father and a hail mary and prayer for partial indulgence. On fridays of lent, a plenary indulgence. Is this pretty much up to date?

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This is the way I understand a partial indulgence. After communition you can go before a crucifix after praying for the pope’s intentions or saying a out father and a hail mary and prayer for partial indulgence. On fridays of lent, a plenary indulgence. Is this pretty much up to date?

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I wasn’t referring to what an indulgence is. Rather, I was referring to which book is the “official” or “correct” book for finding all the Church indulgences. Is it the Manual or the Handbook? Also, wouldn’t we want to read the most current version to ensure that the indulgences listed are still current and still valid? Why would we (possibly) waste time with indulgences that no longer carry the weight of the Church behind them (if they are outdated).
 
=billcu1;9698123]Does the church or I should say specifically the magisterium have the power to change indulgences? From what they were a long time ago to what they are now? I guess the praying before a crucifix is now valid. You can I guess even get a plenary indulgence if you pary on the Fridays of lent after eucharist and praying for the pope’s intentions and saying a special prayer before the crucifix.
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YES:)

Indulgences are matters of “church practices” NOT Doctrine or Dogam and therefore can be modified or changed.

God Bless,
Pat
 
PJM said:
YES:)

Indulgences are matters of “church practices” NOT Doctrine or Dogam and therefore can be modified or changed.

God Bless,
Pat
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I have read about a pardon crucifix that has the letter INRI on it. I guess you can carry it and there are some indulgences attached to that.

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=billcu1;9718470]I have read about a pardon crucifix that has the letter INRI on it. I guess you can carry it and there are some indulgences attached to that.
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Hmmm? Tha’s a new one for me.

Carrying any cross or rosary is a GREAT idea.

God Bless,
Pat
 
*1986? Isn’t there a more updated copy? Amazon has a 1992 version (click here) and also a Manual of Indulgences from 2006 (click here). Which book is the “official” indulgence book…manual or handbook? Also, shouldn’t we always go for the newest in case things have changed?
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Hi Buster,

As far as I am aware, the most current edition of Enchiridon Indulgentiarum;Normae et Concessiones is that published in May 1986.

The copies to which you refer from Amazon are not newer versions but the date on which two different publishing companies published the Enchiridion/Manual/Handbook.

*I have read about a pardon crucifix that has the letter INRI on it. I guess you can carry it and there are some indulgences attached to that.
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Hi Bill,

In The Handbook of Indulgences - handbook/manual / Enchiridion No. 35 we read:

Obiectorum pietatis usus

Use of Devotional Objects

The Christian faithful obtain a partial indulgence when they make devout use of a devotional object (such as a crucifix or cross, a rosary, a scapular, or a medal) which has been rightly blessed by any priest or deacon.3

If the devotional object has been blessed by the Pope or by any bishop, the Christian faithful can obtain a plenary indulgence while making devout use of it on the solemnity of the holy apostles, Peter and Paul, provided they add to its use a profession of faith made in any legitimate formula.

This grant is taken from the apostolic constitution Indulgentiarum doctrina, norm 16. See also above, norm 19, p. 21.

The Apostolic Constitution on Indulgences may be a good background reference for this topic.
ewtn.com/library/PAPALDOC/P6INDULG.HTM
 
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