Modest Swimsuits?

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brianwalden said:
Modesty isn’t an absolute measure, it’s based on the standards of the culture one is in
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I agree that what is modest is not an absolute. It is connected to what is accepted in a culture, with some obvious limits. Showing the knee on the street would have been immodest 100 years ago in the U.S.–it remains so, I guess, in the Hindu/Muslim world.

As for this:
in Europe many men wear speedos instead of the swimming trunks we’re used to
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I think men in speedos is yeeeeucky! I like the good old American guys in their nice swim trunks.
for some reason their styles of mens swimsuits evolved differently than ours.
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well, I think Europe is a lot more secular minded than we are–we’re just farther behind, but we are doing our best to catch up. There is no such thing as modesty for the worldly, right?

Women wearing modest swimsuits is not only a way to be chaste, and not only not be a voluntary occasion of unchastity to another; it is even a matter of justice. Women owe their brothers in Christ that thoughtfulness.

Men must practice Custody of the Eyes! Women must give to their brothers what is their brothers’ due–a sister’s concern for her brother’s welfare, especially his spiritual welfare. She also owes his future spouse not to draw to herself what belongs to that future bride; and not to give him occasion to practice how to be unfaithful in thought. She further has positive duties–to model for women and men another, higher, way to go, a way Our Blessed Mother would have smiled upon.

To drop back to earth–I think the tankini is a great invention. I also think wearing girl board-shorts over a one-piece is an option. Women don’t need to look dorky–they can still look good on the beach while being inventively modest. It does take extra effort, though.
 
Thank you for that. And Europe, oh how “progressive.” No, it’s not.

God bless,
Ed
 
Hello.

I think if I ask myself am I wearing such and such a thing because it’s appropriate for the occasion in whatever culture then I’ll be sure to be modest.

I think modesty depends some on the motivation of why who’s wearing what rather than just what…there’s attractive, there’s seductive, there’s just plain disrespectful and contemptuous of other people…

Some things are in the attitude of the wearer and in the expected reaction of the spectators…

For me, if I’m uncomfortable wearing something for any reason, it helps to ask myself what my motives are then wear something that doesn’t cause me a rupture in my peace of mind and relationship with God.
 
I love to buy just any cute swimsuit that is inexpensive, then I put a pair of boardshorts and a thin top on. You don’t have to worry about coverage and it’s really comfy.

Then again, I enjoy watersports and also swimming in natural areas such as rivers, so my outfit doesn’t seem out of place.
 
crenfro said:
Hello.
I think if I ask myself am I wearing such and such a thing because it’s appropriate for the occasion in whatever culture then I’ll be sure to be modest.
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Hey! And if the culture is the Culture of Death? Or, if one is hangin’ with the Nudists;) ?
I think modesty depends some on the motivation …there’s attractive, there’s seductive, there’s just plain disrespectful and contemptuous of other people…
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Amen!
For me, if I’m uncomfortable wearing something for any reason, it helps to ask myself what my motives are then wear something that doesn’t cause me a rupture in my peace of mind and relationship with God.
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You know this requires a good conscience? A conscience that is sensitive and delicate; that has a keen sense of right and wrong? If everyone had one of these, as you blessedly seem to do, then we can say, “full steam ahead!”

You are right, though–motivation is key, as well as an awareness of what is appropriate in various situations.

Do you, does anyone, have thoughts about what it means for males to be modest? Since the effect upon women of men not wearing enough clothes–well, in keeping with this thread–not wearing an adequate swimsuit, that effect is not the same as women inadequately clothed at the beach? (I think it helps to think of being “clothed” at the beach–being “clothed” anyplace but where it is appropriate to be unclothed.)
 
toaslan said:
There is no such thing as modesty for the worldly, right?
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Have to disagree on that one. I dress very modestly and dress my young daughter so as well. I have a number of friends who are neither Catholic nor any other form of Christian who do the same. Some are of no religion whatsoever. We also bemoan the scarcity of decent appropriate clothing, especially for little girls.
 
I just get the one-piece sporty style swim suits. They go with everything (if you buy a solid color) and there’s never a risk of them falling off.

I used to go with the tankinis too. But, then I met my husband and he prefers that inch or two of belly to be covered. No problem. 👍

Also, I buy the suit just a little big (not loose) but not super tight. That way more stays in the butt and front. 👍
 
I have two suits, both two-pieces with a tank top (which covers my belly) and a little skirt over standard swimsuit bottoms.However, the first one would might be less modest by some standards because it flunks the fingertip test. I find modest suits to be more practical too–you can actually get in the water, get knocked down by a wave and not have to worry about possibly flashing someone.
 
KarenNC said:
Have to disagree on that one. I dress very modestly and dress my young daughter so as well. I have a number of friends who are neither Catholic nor any other form of Christian who do the same. Some are of no religion whatsoever. We also bemoan the scarcity of decent appropriate clothing, especially for little girls.
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You disagree with my comment that there is no such thing as modesty for the worldly? By worldly, I meant to reference those who follow the way of the world–and in the “developed” world, that means sexual promiscuity and license in all areas. Freedom run amuck. Freedom from clothing is, therefore, something our “world” embraces…

What do you mean by “worldly”?

And I would be interested to know upon what grounds your extra-Christian circle of friends judges clothes decent–what animates the finding as to decency? Since it is not a supernatural good which is aimed at, it must be a natural good…?
 
What do you mean by “worldly”?

I took your comment on “worldly” to mean “non-Christian.” Was I incorrect?

And I would be interested to know upon what grounds your extra-Christian circle of friends judges clothes decent–what animates the finding as to decency? Since it is not a supernatural good which is aimed at, it must be a natural good…?

Self-respect is a pretty good natural good in my mind and, yes, what is considered decent and self-respecting in regard to clothing varies with one’s culture for the non-Christian as well as the Christian. For me, it is trying to live in line with the virtues of wisdom and moderation, as well as concerns for practicality.
 
So, would it be considered a sin to wear a two piece?
I normally wear boardshorts with any bikini i wear, unless I’m with my friends ((not guys~ :] )).
Even so, would the top still be sinful if I’m in public?
 
KarenNC said:
Whether your skirt or shorts are as long as or longer than your fingertips when your arm is held straight down at your side.
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OK, either my arms or my fingers are really short, or that doesn’t seem all that long…

OTOH, I wear a bikini on the beach… but I’m European 🤷

Thank you for the explanation!
 
Cobbfmly said:
I went to buy my pre-teen daughter a swimsuit at Target (she wears adult sizes now). All the swimsuits, or so I thought, where grouped together near the entrance and were very immodest. Then as we are walking past the work out clothes and PJ’s near the back corner of the store I noticed the modest swimsuits and we bought one.
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Yep that’s where my dughter got hers. I am still looking for a matching shorts or skirt to go over it for when we are at the beach.
 
KarenNC said:
Whether your skirt or shorts are as long as or longer than your fingertips when your arm is held straight down at your side.
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LOL that wouldn’t work for me My arms are so short. I guess for me this test means I wear shorts and skirts that are WAY longer than need be. (that is my shorts and skirts my swimsuits do NOT pass this. My skirts are MUCH longer than my fingertips. If I wore shorts to the fingertips they would almost be daisy dukes
 
marytk said:
LOL that wouldn’t work for me My arms are so short. I guess for me this test means I wear shorts and skirts that are WAY longer than need be. (that is my shorts and skirts my swimsuits do NOT pass this. My skirts are MUCH longer than my fingertips. If I wore shorts to the fingertips they would almost be daisy dukes
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Yeah, it makes a difference if one has a long torso/short arms/ etc. I have usually seen the “fingertip test” used as a rule of thumb (so to speak:) ) as part of school dress codes (though I’ve been out of school a long time and things could have changed 🙂 ) so swimsuits wouldn’t usually fall under the rule.
 
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