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Brad
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Purposely immodest, vulgar, and lustful women and purposely lustful, immodest, and vulgar men corrupt the mind. Whether it is fiction or not.
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_Jenn
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Honestly, if someone wants to watch pornography, that too, is their choice. It affects me in no way. Everyone’s sins are their own, and repenting for them is something between that individual and God. I don’t concern myself with what “anyone” does.
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fix
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~Jenn~:
All sin, and all good acts, affect everyone in the mystical body of Christ. That is true whether the acts are private or public.
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Cupofkindness
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~Jenn~:
The effect of sin permeates the sinner’s family, friends, community, and society. What kind of Catholic doesn’t concern themself with what any other soul does? A weak Catholic, for sure! God commands us to love our neighbors and bring souls to him. More than anything else, pornorgraphy is a deadly sin that affects every soul in our society! Sins are not just between God and man, which is why we have the Sacrament of Confession.
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The effect of sin permeates the sinner’s family, friends, community, and society. What kind of Catholic doesn’t concern themself with what any other soul does? A weak Catholic, for sure! God commands us to love our neighbors and bring souls to him. More than anything else, pornorgraphy is a deadly sin that affects every soul in our society! Sins are not just between God and man, which is why we have the Sacrament of Confession.
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Isn’t sin a problem for the person engaging in it? Your previous post implied that just watching something could never be a problem for anyone. Isn’t it at least a problem for the one watching it if it is sinful?
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AmberDale
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Okay now, see it’s comments like that! Comments like that which makes people like me never want to even consider the Catholic Church. If I depended on what people on these forums had to say to me then I would not have converted.
I bring with me a Protestant background, which yes involved feelings. But it’s the feelings that got me to where I am now. Don’t you dare pass judgement on me by thinking I don’t do what is right.
It was the calling of the Holy Spirit that inspired me to find the truth. He didn’t come speak to me with a booming voice, no it was a pulling of my heart. Which to me is feelings.
Everytime I go to Mass and worship, and know the real presence of our Lord is there, then yes yes indeed I have my heart rejoicing and the feelings of love.
It’s people like me who have been making the cold become warm again. All the people converting into the church, and bringing what they knew before and reigniting the fires.
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In all fairness the post you quoted was dead accurate. The poster was referring to another poster who claimed something is not sinful if it does not feel sinful. That type of reasoning is absurd.
Feelings need to be ruled by the intellect, not the reverse.
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AmberDale
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He was quoting me. 
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AmberDale
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He quoted me, after I quoted this with comments/questions about asking what was truely sinful. (bold is mine)
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fix
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I am trying to understand your position. If one feels a certain act is not sinful, does that mean the act is not sinful?He was quoting me.
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Brad
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:whacky:He was quoting me.
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AmberDale
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I don’t believe that, but then again apparently I’m letting my feelings get in the way and am acting like a protestant.
No more like I’m quoting exactly what one says then asking questions. Yes my first post quoting him used an example about dancing. This is not a sin, yet for him it seemed to be.
My dear friend, said when the Holy Spirit convicts him of something he stops. What I was asking is, what if one is not convicted of that same something?
My position is watching some T.V. is not a sin, there are things on T.V. that are sinful. There are some things that can become sinful. You need to know where that fine line is.
Watching Porno is a sin, yes. It is a sin because if looking at porn, or looking at someone with a lustful eye is considered adultery.
Now if watching this particular show gets in the way of your prayer life, church life, or family life then it is becoming sinful. Nothing should get in the way of family and God.
I’m all about forms of entertainment, I play lots of games that my former Protestants friens would condemn me to hell for. I didn’t believe that it would send me to hell, because it never came before God. But we aren’t talking about games.
No more like I’m quoting exactly what one says then asking questions. Yes my first post quoting him used an example about dancing. This is not a sin, yet for him it seemed to be.
My dear friend, said when the Holy Spirit convicts him of something he stops. What I was asking is, what if one is not convicted of that same something?
My position is watching some T.V. is not a sin, there are things on T.V. that are sinful. There are some things that can become sinful. You need to know where that fine line is.
Watching Porno is a sin, yes. It is a sin because if looking at porn, or looking at someone with a lustful eye is considered adultery.
Now if watching this particular show gets in the way of your prayer life, church life, or family life then it is becoming sinful. Nothing should get in the way of family and God.
I’m all about forms of entertainment, I play lots of games that my former Protestants friens would condemn me to hell for. I didn’t believe that it would send me to hell, because it never came before God. But we aren’t talking about games.
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AmberDale
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I like arguing that’s why I jumped in.
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Brad
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If there is ANY doubt, give it up for God. We all lived before the show came into existence and we will live after it dies out. Anything that has the potential to affect negatively our relationship with God should be eliminated. No show is even close to being worth that much.
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Brad
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Arguing without proper info isn’t effective.I like arguing that’s why I jumped in.
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fix
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In this particular situation I think you are right. What may be sinful for one, may not be sinful for another. That is true many aspects of life, but not all.
There are ways of discerning these things and I think some of those techniques you have outlined.
As for this particular show, I think a case can be made that it is sinful for everyone. Perhaps not mortally in each case, but venially may be true in most cases.
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_Jenn
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I’m hardly a weak Catholic. LOL Life is far too precious for me to worry what Joe Schmoe down the street is watching on his tv. That’s all I was saying by my post.
Of course it is, for that person. I never said that watching something wouldn’t be a problem for anyone - obviously for some, it is. And that’s for them to deal with. I’m certainly not going to sit around and dwell on what everyone watches and whether or not it may be sinful to them.
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Cupofkindness
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Indifference to the sin of others is not what Christ teaches. And the bad effects of sin are spread throughout the Chruch and society. These affect good Catholics like you and those you love every day in countless ways.
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Brad
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I think our society has become somewhat numb to pornography and, as a result, cannot discern it very well.
Most of today’s TV shows are borderline or cross that line.
This particular one does cross it in my book. I can’t stand in the grocery line without seeing the cast of characters depicted in little or no cothing.
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Yes, I think the show panders. I have seen an episode and I have to say that if they took out all the gratuitous sex and flesh it would be a very reasonable show. It seems to be a dark comedy, not unlike those old Alfred Hitchcock shows.
As it stands now I agree it is tawdry.
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