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Is anyone familiar with this? Is it a yay or a nay to get? Would someone give a good summary of its content? God bless!
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I own this, got it on eBay new for $20. The cover is a stiff fake leather. The pastedown front pages could be glued in better (ie mine are coming off), but the book holds up well. There are six bookmarks.
Essentially it is an English translation of the traditional Benedictine Divine Office day hours done by some Roman liturgyphile Anglicans in the early 20th century. It is very good. The rubrics are hard to understand at first, but that is with all divine office type materials. However, once you get the hang of it, it’s not quite bad at all. The liturgy itself is quite beautiful. The page edges are gilded.
I recommend buying it, but I first recommend looking somewhere else to get it cheaper than directly from Lancelot Andrewes.
Essentially it is an English translation of the traditional Benedictine Divine Office day hours done by some Roman liturgyphile Anglicans in the early 20th century. It is very good. The rubrics are hard to understand at first, but that is with all divine office type materials. However, once you get the hang of it, it’s not quite bad at all. The liturgy itself is quite beautiful. The page edges are gilded.
I recommend buying it, but I first recommend looking somewhere else to get it cheaper than directly from Lancelot Andrewes.
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Day hours? I thought the Matins ones only contained…well, Matins, the night hour. If you do have Matins, it doesn’t use the Deuterocanonical books correct? Or does it give options to use them? How are the none-Biblical readings, (I already bought it from Lancelot lol) I plan on reading the Biblical readings from my Douay-Rhelims Bible. God bless!
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Actually it does have the Deuterocanonicals (“Apocrypha” is included), I think, but I will check when I get home.Day hours? I thought the Matins ones only contained…well, Matins, the night hour. If you do have Matins, it doesn’t use the Deuterocanonical books correct? Or does it give options to use them? How are the none-Biblical readings, (I already bought it from Lancelot lol) I plan on reading the Biblical readings from my Douay-Rhelims Bible. God bless!
I don’t really use this much because I just haven’t gotten into the routine of it.
OH DUH, I have the Diurnal, not Matins. But I imagine it is quite similar, stylistically and otherwise.
andrewespress.com/md.html
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Oh yes, I have a Diurnal too, but I bought one from Clear Creek Monastery, the Diurnal is in Latin-English and is actually liturgical. I wish they’d print an Latin-English Matins book. God bless! and thanks for the response!Actually it does have the Deuterocanonicals (“Apocrypha” is included), I think, but I will check when I get home.
I don’t really use this much because I just haven’t gotten into the routine of it.
OH DUH, I have the Diurnal, not Matins. But I imagine it is quite similar, stylistically and otherwise.
andrewespress.com/md.html
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The Matins book from LAP is kind of a mixed bag.
One the one hand it is the only source in English of the entire office of Matins. On the other it is not Catholic, although I’ve never found anything in it that would be problematic. Also, the psalter is different from the usual, since it is the Cloverdale - which I find awkward at times.
As a side note, when I bought one years ago it was beautifully bound, sewn, and very top quality. I’ve seen one that was purchased by a woman I know a few months ago and the quality has really gone downhill. It wasn’t sewn but just glued like a paperback, so it won’t hold up well in the long run. She said it came shrink wrapped, but there were a lot of wrinkled pages like it had gotten wet and the back cover was torn loose. The lady that bought it was really upset. And they wouldn’t exchange it, or give her a refund and got really snotty with her when she complained. Bad form. I just checked on their website and it still listed it as “smyth-sewn” - which it isn’t. Hopefully the quality control issues will be resolved.
There is a Monastic Matins published by Clear Creek Monastery and available on Lulu, but it isn’t complete. It’s the four week Psalter, but none of the additional material for feasts, saints, etc.
One the one hand it is the only source in English of the entire office of Matins. On the other it is not Catholic, although I’ve never found anything in it that would be problematic. Also, the psalter is different from the usual, since it is the Cloverdale - which I find awkward at times.
As a side note, when I bought one years ago it was beautifully bound, sewn, and very top quality. I’ve seen one that was purchased by a woman I know a few months ago and the quality has really gone downhill. It wasn’t sewn but just glued like a paperback, so it won’t hold up well in the long run. She said it came shrink wrapped, but there were a lot of wrinkled pages like it had gotten wet and the back cover was torn loose. The lady that bought it was really upset. And they wouldn’t exchange it, or give her a refund and got really snotty with her when she complained. Bad form. I just checked on their website and it still listed it as “smyth-sewn” - which it isn’t. Hopefully the quality control issues will be resolved.
There is a Monastic Matins published by Clear Creek Monastery and available on Lulu, but it isn’t complete. It’s the four week Psalter, but none of the additional material for feasts, saints, etc.
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There was a rumor a few years back that the monks were working on a Monastic Matins to go with the MD, but I heard they got bogged down. Not sure if it is still in the works, or not.Oh yes, I have a Diurnal too, but I bought one from Clear Creek Monastery, the Diurnal is in Latin-English and is actually liturgical. I wish they’d print an Latin-English Matins book. God bless! and thanks for the response!
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Oh yes, I have that one, I think I’ll just stick with Our Lady’s Matins for now, its liturgical, I did buy the one from LAP, tried to use pray it, never will again. I’m not comfortable using something thats meant for protestants. God bless!The Matins book from LAP is kind of a mixed bag.
One the one hand it is the only source in English of the entire office of Matins. On the other it is not Catholic, although I’ve never found anything in it that would be problematic. Also, the psalter is different from the usual, since it is the Cloverdale - which I find awkward at times.
As a side note, when I bought one years ago it was beautifully bound, sewn, and very top quality. I’ve seen one that was purchased by a woman I know a few months ago and the quality has really gone downhill. It wasn’t sewn but just glued like a paperback, so it won’t hold up well in the long run. She said it came shrink wrapped, but there were a lot of wrinkled pages like it had gotten wet and the back cover was torn loose. The lady that bought it was really upset. And they wouldn’t exchange it, or give her a refund and got really snotty with her when she complained. Bad form. I just checked on their website and it still listed it as “smyth-sewn” - which it isn’t. Hopefully the quality control issues will be resolved.
There is a Monastic Matins published by Clear Creek Monastery and available on Lulu, but it isn’t complete. It’s the four week Psalter, but none of the additional material for feasts, saints, etc.
I pray they do! God bless!There was a rumor a few years back that the monks were working on a Monastic Matins to go with the MD, but I heard they got bogged down. Not sure if it is still in the works, or not.
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