Monastic Orders

[franklinf]

Forgive my ignorance, but I had a couple questions in regards to Eastern Catholic monastic orders. Are there counterparts of Roman Catholic Orders (i.e. EC Carmelites, Franciscan, etc).

If so, are there any differences (such as in the rite used - Latin vs. Eastern)? And why would an EC join a Western order? How would these orders have spread to the East?

If not, what are the main EC orders? Are there any major differences from the Western ones?

 

[Aramis]

Forgive my ignorance, but I had a couple questions in regards to Eastern Catholic monastic orders. Are there counterparts of Roman Catholic Orders (i.e. EC Carmelites, Franciscan, etc).

If so, are there any differences (such as in the rite used - Latin vs. Eastern)? And why would an EC join a Western order? How would these orders have spread to the East?

If not, what are the main EC orders? Are there any major differences from the Western ones?

THere are a few.

The Byzantine tradition is essentially almost exclusively diocesan monastics.

 

[JMJ_coder]

The major monastic tradition in the Eastern Churches is Basilian (from Saint Basil). There are a few communities of Eastern Catholics in Western Orders (i.e., Benedictine and Carmelite), but they are few and the few I’ve seen are nuns.

The Oriental Churches tend to have their own unique monastic tradition that is based more heavily on the tradition of desert monasticism from the days of Saint Antony of the Desert and made its way up through Palestine.

ByzCath might have some good insights on this, he is an Eastern Catholic who is a Carmelite (O.Carm).

 

[Deacon_Lance]

Traditional Eastern Catholic monasticism would have monks follow the Rule of St. Basil, or among those of Syriac tradition the Rule of St. Anthony, and live in monasteries driectly under the obedience of their bishop or patriarch.

That said the following orders have monasteries/friaries and in some cases provinces for Byzantine members: Benedictines, Fransicans, Carmelites, Jesuits, Salesians, Redemptorists and Assumptionists

The Eastern Catholic Churches also have their own orders modeled along Latin outlines: the Byzantine Basilian Orders, Maronite Orders, and Armenian Mehkitarist Orders are examples.

 

[gmcbroom]

Any Maronite orders in the USA?

 

[malphono]

Any Maronite orders in the USA?

Only one of the traditional monastic orders of Pontifical Right (OMM) has any presence in the US, and even that is very limited. The other two (OAM and OLM) have a presence in both Canada and Australia.

There is an institute of Diocesan Right, though, that may be of interest. Try this link.

 

[gmcbroom]

what does OAM and OLM stand for?

 

[Dale_M]

what does OAM and OLM stand for?

I think they stand specifically for: Ordo Antonianorum Maronitarum/Ordre Antonin Maronite and Ordo Libanensis Maronitarum/Ordre Libanais Maronite

 

[Cluny]

<< Any Maronite orders in the USA?>>

There is the Maronite Monastery of the Adoration in Petersham, Massachusetts.

As in the Orthodox tradition, generally Eastern Catholics are simply a monk or nun of a given monastery.

There ARE Byzantine Benedictine houses–one of men, one of women–in the USA.

 

[Hesychios]

The Byzantine tradition is essentially almost exclusively diocesan monastics.

This is true of the Byzantine tradition in general, but I think in the Byzantine Catholic tradition one will find more monastics in the Ordo Sancti Basilii Magni (OSBM). Following upon western tradition, the Orthodox monasteries of the Kyivan Rus church after Brest were separated from their dioceses/local bishops and organized into the religious order. (One would think that a reorganization into something more like a Benedictine style Congregation would have been more suitable, allowing greater autonomy for each house.)

This order then, many years later (late 19th century), was re-formed by the Society of Jesus following instructions by a Pope.

Naturally, other religious orders originating in the west have also had an impact on the character of the Byzantine Catholic religious community: Franciscans, Carmelites, Redemptorists etc. I think that there are quite a few more Byzantine Catholics in orders of all types, even today, than there are in diocesan foundations.

 

[Hesychios]

The Byzantine tradition is essentially almost exclusively diocesan monastics.

This is true of the Byzantine tradition in general, but I think in the Byzantine Catholic tradition one will find more monastics in the Ordo Sancti Basilii Magni (OSBM). Following upon western tradition, the Orthodox monasteries of the Kyivan Rus church after Brest were separated from their dioceses/local bishops and organized into the religious order. (One might think that a reorganization into something more like a Benedictine style CongregationOf course following the Rule of Basil.] would have been more suitable, allowing greater autonomy for each house. )

This order then, many years later (late 19th century), was re-formed by the Society of Jesus following instructions by a Pope. This essentially changed the core mission to a more active one.

Naturally, other religious orders originating in the west have also had an impact on the character of the Byzantine Catholic religious community: Franciscans, Carmelites, Redemptorists etc. I think that there are quite a few more Byzantine Catholics in orders of all types, even today, than there are in diocesan monastic foundations.