Monothelitism -- I need retraining

[grannymh]

I just found out that what I have been believing, that Jesus has only one will, is a heresy called Monothelitism. I know that the Church is guided by the Holy Spirit and is infallible, and so I am wrong and the Church is right. I do here publicly recant my heresy. I will be going to confession about this as well.

But it’s also not that simple. I need to come to UNDERSTAND orthodoxy, which right now doesn’t make sense to me. It seems to me that if Jesus were to have two wills, it would make him two persons. I just don’t understand. I need help.

Is there anyone here who will with patience and love help me come fully back to orthodox belief? I may ask a lot of questions.

Did I miss the post presenting the universal Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition? Along with proper citations?

My apology if I did.

Here are three links. Be sure to read paragraphs 20-21 first. Use the Glossary beginning on page 864. The Catholic word Hypostatic Union is there. You could start learning at CCC paragraph 456. From what I have seen on CAF, the beginning words of CCC 470 – “assumed, not absorbed” should be memorized. Keep learning all the way to CCC 483. And be sure to read the cross-references in the margins.

Links to the universal Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition.
usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/what-we-believe/catechism/catechism-of-the-catholic-church/

scborromeo.org/ccc.htm

vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM

 

[2PT3]

On issues like this, it has helped me to simply accept that there are some things about the Faith that are mysteries which I may never fully understand. “Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How inscrutable are his judgments and how unsearchable his ways!” (Rom 11:33) We don’t necessarily have to fully understand everything to accept it if we acknowledge the Church as our authority.

On a side note, you should look up Pope Honorius I. He was posthumously anathematized by the Third Council of Constantinople in the year 680 for having tolerated the Monothelite heresy. See here:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Honorius_I

Peace.

 

[kdbueno]

We know that God is always correct. Having one will, can prove an incorrectness in divinity. Having two wills, proving that the possibility of divinity is correct. The hypothesis, that a unity in will is a heresy, whilst the hypothesis, that a union in will achieves full consent of a divine true and one God.

 

[grannymh]

We know that God is always correct. Having one will, can prove an incorrectness in divinity. Having two wills, proving that the possibility of divinity is correct. The hypothesis, that a unity in will is a heresy, whilst the hypothesis, that a union in will achieves full consent of a divine true and one God.

What we are dealing with is the fact that Jesus Christ is one Person (the Divine Second Person in the Most Holy Trinity )with two natures (True God and True Man).

God is three Persons in one Divine Nature.

 

[kdbueno]

What we are dealing with is the fact that Jesus Christ is one Person (the Divine Second Person in the Most Holy Trinity )with two natures (True God and True Man).

God is three Persons in one Divine Nature.

God’s nature subsists only by one reason, that He is only one God.

 

[BobCatholic]

I see it like this.

Christ is human. He has a human will.
Christ is God. He has a divine will.

If Christ has only one will, which one does he have?

If divine, then he is not fully human. His human side is missing a will! That contradicts the scripture where he emptied himself and became a slave (i.e. fully human)
If human, then he is not fully divine. His divine side is missing a will! He’s a demigod at best. This contradicts the scriptures that say he is God.

Both his human will and divine will agree with each other.

 

[grannymh]

Here is the Catholic teaching on Christ’s human will. Paragraph 475, Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition.

I sincerely suggest – in order to grasp the whole picture – that one start with “The Incarnation” Paragraph 461 and keep reading to paragraph 483.
**CCC 475 **Similarly, at the sixth ecumenical council, Constantinople III in 681, the Church confessed that Christ possesses two wills and two natural operations, divine and human. They are not opposed to each other, but cooperate in such a way that the Word made flesh willed humanly in obedience to his Father all that he had decided divinely with the Father and the Holy Spirit for our salvation. Christ’s human will “does not resist or oppose but rather submits to his divine and almighty will.”

Links to the universal Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition

scborromeo.org/ccc.htm

usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/what-we-believe/catechism/catechism-of-the-catholic-church/