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I was wondering if anyone here belongs to a Mothers of Preschoolers group at their Catholic church? I went to one before, but it was at a different church and it happened to be awful (talked about spanking your kids and all children over 4 months had to be separted from mom and go into the kids room). But my church now has a group as well, but I don’t want to relive a bad experience. Any opinions?
 
Hi Ann,

I attended MOPS for 6 years & was a group discussion leader for two. I really enjoyed it. It was held at an Evangelical church but all denoms & even women who weren’t Chrisitans attended. They had a wonderful children’s program but I think I kept my babies with me until the were almost a year old. They did encourage the Moms to use the nursery & Moppets program for the children - many women attended because they wanted a break from their children and wanted to be able to hear the speaker & participate in the discussions. I think it would be disruptive if there were lots of children present who were older than about a year. Not many toddlers are willing to sit still & be quiet for two hours.

As far as your experience with the “spanking” thing… was this a speaker talking about discipline? I know in our program we had several different speakers that would give talks on all sorts of parenting issues. Some I agreed with - some I didn’t. It was interesting to hear another point of view & I suppose I just took away what I found important. We also did a craft every time (fun!) and of course there was always lots of food. It was an all around great time & a wonderful support - especially for new Moms.

I’m sorry your experience wasn’t a good one. I’d say give it another try. I guess MOPS will always hold a spot in my heart because it was at MOPS that I met a woman who was Catholic (I was Protestant) who shared her faith with me. We became good friends - she answered about a gazzillion questions about the Catholic Church - a couple years later, she was my sponsor at RCIA and the rest is history. So when I’m asked I say, MOPS changed my life !!! 🙂
 
That is so wild, Carol Marie. I have always avoided MOPS because it was evangelical. I never considered going and letting the Holy Spirit use me to convert someone! What a great story. Many of my family members (all Evangelical as I used to be) have been involved at their churches.
 
susie g.:
That is so wild, Carol Marie. I have always avoided MOPS because it was evangelical. I never considered going and letting the Holy Spirit use me to convert someone! What a great story. Many of my family members (all Evangelical as I used to be) have been involved at their churches.
Yes, it really was awesome the way God worked it all out… My Catholic friend was a bit leary about coming as well and I don’t think she ever intended to speak up about being Catholic - I knew of course because I was the leader & got a profile on everyone in my “group.” During one of our first meetings together one woman in the group spoke up & asked for prayer for her neighbors. Someone asked if they were Christian & she replied, “NO, they are Catholic.” I thought… oh brother… this isn’t going well! I didn’t want to embarass the only Catholic in the group & I didn’t want it to turn into a bash Catholics free for all so I said nothing & changed the subject. (wimpy way out, I know) When I got home I called the Catholic woman to tell her how sorry I was that the comment was made. She was very understanding and we talked that day on the phone for like an hour about mothering & our common interests. Our friendship just sort of grew from there. She never pushed her faith on me… I was very curious as to what Catholics believed and although maybe initially I felt that I should be “leading her to the Lord” - it became so crystal clear to me that she had a deeper relationship with God than MOST Chrisitans I knew. Eventually she invited me to mass - introduced me to other Catholic women and just stood by me as I wrestled with “OMIGOSH Catholics are right but I sooooooooooo don’t want to BE ONE!!!” (A panic only another convert can appreciate) Oh, and this is the strangest thing… the woman in our group who asked for the prayer for her Catholic neighbors - she NEVER came to another MOPS meeting again. I sometimes wonder if God used her to get the ball rolling because I’m not sure that my friend & I would’ve become such good friends had I not had to phone her that day??? God works in mysterious ways.

OK, sorry to hijack the MOPS thread. I’ll close by repeating… MOPS is great. Go and share your faith!!!

🙂 CM
 
Personally I could use a MOPS group but I too am very leery since I just feel like I’d always have to dodge the anti-Catholicism, either subtle or out in the open.

I just wish more Catholic parishes would offer more support groups. I guess I could do the hard work and try to start one myself but I just feel at this point in my life I need the ministering.

Is there a lot of Catholic “bashing” - I don’t mean that literally bc I know most of them have our “best interests” at heart since they think we don’t know Jesus. I just think I’d feel worse after going to MOPS if I felt I had to spend the whole time trying to clear up misunderstandings or explaining why I couldn’t come and “check out” their churches.

More opinions?? Thanks!
 
I belonged to MOPS for 4 years, was a discussion leader for 2 of them. I would still be going, but I graduated out after my baby started kindergarten.

MOPS groups are sponsored by churches, and I suppose it would depend on the church that charters the chapter how Catholic friendly the group is. My group was not anti Catholic at all, in fact several of us were Catholic. Our group had women from just about all the churces in the area, not only the sponsoring church, which usually happens because the charter requires that it be open to anyone, and there may even be a limit to how many chapters can be in a local area.

The speakers cover a whole range of topics, from parenting, communication in marriage, to organizing your closets. I suppose like anything else you take what you want and leave the rest as far as what you agree with.

We didn’t have an age requirement for when the kids had to go to the MOPPETS, usually at crawling age when they weren’t satisfied to stay on a blanket at mom’s feet. MOPS is really designed to be nurturing to moms, give us a time to recharge our parenting batteries, and to have some adult conversation. The volunteers down with the children were wonderful, mostly grandmas who loved the opportunity to love on babies/toddlers/preschoolers for a couple hours.

I would encourage you to give it another try.

Arlene
 
How does one find a MOPS group? They used to be advertised in the local paper when I lived in a small town outside Chicago, but now I live in a large urban area, and needless to say I don’t visit Protestant churches much anymore. 🙂
 
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Jennifer123:
How does one find a MOPS group? They used to be advertised in the local paper when I lived in a small town outside Chicago, but now I live in a large urban area, and needless to say I don’t visit Protestant churches much anymore. 🙂
Try www.mops.org - look down on the left - there’s a search (click on local group) and type in your zip code.

Heads up - there is a cost associated with MOPS. The group I belonged to charged I believe $6.00 a meeting which included child care, the craft & the delicous food… (well, actually the food was brought in turns by the groups - so maybe that doesn’t count??)

Try MOPS - you’ll love it! I’m pretty sure there will be other Catholic women there. 🙂
 
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annb:
I was wondering if anyone here belongs to a Mothers of Preschoolers group at their Catholic church? I went to one before, but it was at a different church and it happened to be awful (talked about spanking your kids and all children over 4 months had to be separted from mom and go into the kids room). But my church now has a group as well, but I don’t want to relive a bad experience. Any opinions?
The MOPS group I went to was at a nondenomonational church and it was miserable for me, I tried to like it but it just felt very “wrong” to me. They were all very much into a program called “Growing kids God’s Way” which was not at all compatable with my parenting. Sure, some of it was ok, but it involved too much spanking with what they referred to as a “rod” and they held the concept that after punishing a child you must leave them in their room and allow them to feel abandoned because Jesus was abandoned on the Cross. This was what bugged me the most. It killed me to think that they all thought Jesus was forsaken by God, they looked quite puzzled when I talked about he Trinity and that Jesus couldn’t abandon Himself he could have gotten down and ended it all anytime he wanted but chose to stay for the ultimate sacrifice for us. I pointed out the Psalm Jesus was referring to and everything. They looked “suspicious” of the Catholic woman. I was constantly in a position where they were trying to convert me and had to defend the Catholic Church on many occasions. The all wanted me to take teh "growing kgw seminar and after going for a year, I realized that it was not enjoyable for me, it was more stressful than anything. I wish there were a “Catholic Friendly” MOPS group around here.
 
susie g.:
That is so wild, Carol Marie. I have always avoided MOPS because it was evangelical. I never considered going and letting the Holy Spirit use me to convert someone! What a great story. Many of my family members (all Evangelical as I used to be) have been involved at their churches.
It would have been great if the ladies had listened to my explanations of my Catholic faith with an open mind. At first I was trying to look at it as a positive thing but it became quite defeating and I felt like all they wanted to do was gang up on me and convert me. I wish I had this great experience.

There are 5 groups in my area. 3 are at Baptist churches, one at a nondenom and one at Calvary Assembly of God. I guess I could have checked out the other 4, but I guess I was soured by it, from what I understood by the ladies in my group, there were so many groups because they had varrying religious groups and theirs was best because it was nondenominational. I also went to their ladies Bible study a few times with the same experiences there, so maybe that also affected their desire to convert me.
 
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Jennifer123:
Personally I could use a MOPS group but I too am very leery since I just feel like I’d always have to dodge the anti-Catholicism, either subtle or out in the open.

I just wish more Catholic parishes would offer more support groups. I guess I could do the hard work and try to start one myself but I just feel at this point in my life I need the ministering.

Is there a lot of Catholic “bashing” - I don’t mean that literally bc I know most of them have our “best interests” at heart since they think we don’t know Jesus. I just think I’d feel worse after going to MOPS if I felt I had to spend the whole time trying to clear up misunderstandings or explaining why I couldn’t come and “check out” their churches.

More opinions?? Thanks!
You hit the nail on the head, that was my experience with it, but maybe they are not all like that. At first I felt like it was positive and that maybe it was a good thing to “clear up” the misunderstandings, but after a year I realized it was not very positive or relaxing for me. It was more frustrating, and made worse that I started wondering if these ladies were saying these things to me, was there a possibility they could be (not with malice) undermining my children’s Catholic education while they were apart from me in their own classes.
 
Well I found one at a Catholic church that’s 20 mi away, so I think I’ll go and check it out. Maybe after I go and see how things are run I’ll inquire about starting one at a parish closer to home.
AnnB - let us know what you’ve decided or how things are going with your group! 👋
 
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Peace-bwu:
There are 5 groups in my area. 3 are at Baptist churches, one at a nondenom and one at Calvary Assembly of God.
It’s my understanding that Calvary is very anti-Catholic and the Baptists, well forget about it! 😃
But it looks like it’s easy to start one from the MOPS site, or tailor it to fit Catholic sensibilities.
 
I had friends from Calvary who were very nice, also a homeschool family, I knew her from the YMCA and the husband was actually on my husbands flight crew (air force) He was a nice guy but had a negative reputation of being a little too preachy and judgemental about his religious views, with his fellow airmen. He gave me at least two invitation cards for their church and an invitation to one of those creepy Halloween Hell things. It didn’t matter how devoutly religious we are, being Catholic wasn’t good enough for him. Considering they went to MOPS at Calvary, it turns me off on going there, for sure.
 
Peace-bwy,

Oh your experience with MOPS sounds horrible. I am familar with that Growing Kids God’s Way - I think it’s the WORST !!! They believe so rigidly (IMO) even to the extent that babies should be put on a strict breastfeeding schedule and if the baby is crying & hungry but it’s not “time” for it’s feeding - too bad.

You know, I was speaking from MY vantage point that MOPS was wonderful for ME because it’s what led me to the Catholic Church - but now that you mention it, my friend who was Catholic who shared her faith never came back after that first year. Maybe it was stressful for her as well? I don’t know… I never thought to ask her? At any rate, MOPS is supposed to be a fun, relaxing time and it so sounds like that wasn’t the case for you. 😦

Someone else mentioned a MOPS at a Calvery church?? Cross that one off your list - If it’s Calvery Chapel they are more anti-Catholic then most IMO.
 
I went to MOPS at a Baptist church for 3 years. I enjoyed the fellowship, listening to speakers and crafts. I even enjoyed sending my children to their age-appropriate rooms for games and crafts.

I was a discussion group leader one year. I never felt any anti-catholic sentiment. There were ladies there from many denoms. And when a meeting landed during a Friday of Lent, whoever was responsible for breakfast that day would make sure there were meatless items for the “Catholic contingent.” About 10 of us Catholic women attended, so I guess I never felt alone.

However, some of us did feel like we wouldn’t be welcome to stand up and talk about Mary or the Eucharist. The “testimonies” were always from Protestants, too.

But, all in all, it was a wonderful experience for me! A Catholic MOPS would be totally awesome, though!
 
carol marie said:
Peace-bwy,

Oh your experience with MOPS sounds horrible. I am familar with that Growing Kids God’s Way - I think it’s the WORST !!! They believe so rigidly (IMO) even to the extent that babies should be put on a strict breastfeeding schedule and if the baby is crying & hungry but it’s not “time” for it’s feeding - too bad.

You know, I was speaking from MY vantage point that MOPS was wonderful for ME because it’s what led me to the Catholic Church - but now that you mention it, my friend who was Catholic who shared her faith never came back after that first year. Maybe it was stressful for her as well? I don’t know… I never thought to ask her? At any rate, MOPS is supposed to be a fun, relaxing time and it so sounds like that wasn’t the case for you. 😦
Now, looking back, I am glad that I learned some hard but valuable lessons. I invested alot of time in friendships with some of the ladies and had my heart broken (the story is in other posts) One of my friends in particular followed Growing Kids to a tee and even taught a class. I breastfed my newborns on command until they regulated themselves on whatever schedule worked for them. She was always giving me “helpful” advice (which I would ignore) and talked about how she used to intentionally put her babies to bed hungry so they could learn to fall asleep hungry. She had a discipline “flow chart” on her fridge and it said things for various levels of misbehavior like chastize, scold, abandon I can’t remember all of them but they were all these horrible sounding verbs! She also had her daughter potty trained at 14 months and her son by 17 months. All three of mine potty trained just before or right after their 3rd birthdays. She made it clear what she thought of this. I dont’ know how I managed to be friends with her for 3 years! (even after the MOPS fiasco. The worst part is that as a newcomer to the area I was trying to meet friends and so invested alot of time and effort.
Someone else mentioned a MOPS at a Calvery church?? Cross that one off your list - If it’s Calvery Chapel they are more anti-Catholic then most IMO.
yeah, I had that vibe too
 
Hmmm, I haven’t made a decision yet about going or not. I might give the one at my church a try once I get some more information on it. If there is anything Ezzo (Growing Kids God’s Way) about it though I’m leaving right away. I already feel like an outsider with regular mainstream moms, I can’t tolerate the Ezzo point of view at all. :eek:
 
I just signed up with MOPS International to have a MOPS group in our Parish.

I did check in our area and they we do have a MOPS group in the Archdiocese of Seattle, before getting our Parish Priest to agree holding a group in our Parish.

Our Parish Priest and Church Administrator are little nervous about it, and I signed the agreement instead of Father.

I’m thinking we could use the program in a way that reflects Catholic values, and as a way to invite young women to live more fully their Catholic Faith, and attract other women who are not Catholic to consider the faith.

Would love to hear how others feel. 🙂
 
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