Moral healthcare options

[royal_archer]

Most of these threads seem to degrade into those who want to tax to get health care and those who find taxation to be wrong. Can we please have a thread where the just take it from the rich option is not discussed? While we are at it let’s take the generic give mre to charity off the table. That has also gotten plenty of air time already.

There are things we can be doing to improve health care other than relying on the “rich”. Lets discuss some of the moral things we can do to improve health care with out resorting to immoral things such as stealing or coveting.

Some things are individual based, some are community based and some are government based.

For instance, how many of you are trained in first aid and CPR? How many of you have first aid kits in your cars, brief cases etc? I’m not talking bandaids, I mean something that would be useful at an accident?

When you have guests over, is the health value of the food a major concern with what you serve?

Anyone a volunteer fireman, in search and rescue, or a trained and on call first responder?

 

[aspawloski4th]

Most of these threads seem to degrade into those who want to tax to get health care and those who find taxation to be wrong. Can we please have a thread where the just take it from the rich option is not discussed? While we are at it let’s take the generic give mre to charity off the table. That has also gotten plenty of air time already.

There are things we can be doing to improve health care other than relying on the “rich”. Lets discuss some of the moral things we can do to improve health care with out resorting to immoral things such as stealing or coveting.

Some things are individual based, some are community based and some are government based.

For instance, how many of you are trained in first aid and CPR? How many of you have first aid kits in your cars, brief cases etc? I’m not talking bandaids, I mean something that would be useful at an accident?

When you have guests over, is the health value of the food a major concern with what you serve?

Anyone a volunteer fireman, in search and rescue, or a trained and on call first responder?

Not all good comparisons. For example in the case of food. My wife’s family eats by in large much healthier than mine ever did. The longest anyone lives in her family is the early 70’s while the average life span in mine is maybe about 85. I do know CPR. Iv’e help several diebetics with blood sugar crashes in cluding my wife over the years. And the animal health side I even rascued a kitten that wqas stranded high up in a tree, a decade ago. I live in the city I live in the fire department is full time and big. But in swimming I’m a certfied minow and know the major points of water type rescuing, but never needed it. So yes I’m involved in public health on an individual basis. I’m a trained severe weather and torado spotter. If I call in a tornodo sighting or severe weather report, the national weather service by law has to issue a warning for the proper locality based on my sighting. So I’m involved in my way in public well being. What you are bringing up though means nothing to someone with a chronic health condition but cant afford to treat it properly. Thats the type of issue being debated here, not first aid kits.If you want injury prevention in cars so bad, howabout going back to having cars being 4500 lb pieces of metal rather than the cracker boxes they are today! The proposal may look like its relying on the rich, but everyone paying attention to what really is going on knows they are going to fire up them printing presses to pay for it.

 

[pathia]

1.) Tort reform
2.) Let medicare collectively bargain, especially for drugs. Right now medicare isn’t allowed to bargain with drug companies, they pay what the drug companies charge, unlike insurance companies that can actually get bulk discounts. Mind you this isn’t a price mandate, the drug company would be free to say ‘no’ to an offer if it was not enough.

Lets discuss some of the moral things we can do to improve health care with out resorting to immoral things such as stealing or coveting.

You spoiled the post with this, the Church has no issues with taxes. YOU have an issue with taxes.

 

[royal_archer]

1.) Tort reform
2.) Let medicare collectively bargain, especially for drugs. Right now medicare isn’t allowed to bargain with drug companies, they pay what the drug companies charge, unlike insurance companies that can actually get bulk discounts. Mind you this isn’t a price mandate, the drug company would be free to say ‘no’ to an offer if it was not enough.

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Tax discussion is not on topic.

Collective bargaining is good as is tort reform.

What about the Church forming an insurance coop? where they can be more generous with less insurable people but it would still be voluntary?