Morality of Artificial Intelligence

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AI morality is a fascinating (scary?) topic. Take self-driving cars as an example. If there’s an imminent accident, should the car veer to one side and hit a pedestrian or to the other and hit a school bus full or children. Should the utilitarian ‘good of the whole over good of the few’ trump?

What if one decision helps more people, but is likely to hurt the passengers in the car? A human driver might prioritize his/her own family over the lives of unknown strangers (even if the number of people harmed is potentially greater).

Moral underpinning Of the programmers may well influence outcomes. What if one could choose which AI morality they would like to prioritize. Who would prioritize unknown strangers over their own family?
 
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It’s an interesting thought experiment. When we are the driver, our instinct usually has us…making a decision in a split second…instinctively saving ourselves first. Contemplating our choices isn’t available until after we have reacted.

AI allows decisions that we wouldn’t make…saving the many or the few vs just saving our own butts. Those developing the rules that AI will use is working on these issues even now consulting ethicists.

I’m not sure what conclusions they will come to. Will we get a choice to select the save my butt or save the many or save the children (I don’t think AI will know if a bus has children or not). Can we pick and choose? Is that ethical?

Perhaps they will just stick to what we currently do…save ourselves…as it’s the current norm?

Glad I’m not going to be involved in this though laws might be introduced that do force us to vote one way or another!
 
Obiously, you give safety to the one not at fault. Decisions like that are easier on public property.
 
I have heard with my own ears robots plotting to kill humans (seriously, it’s creepy). There is an album by the Industrial Metal band Fear Factory called Obsolete That has a story along with it about what’s going on. People keep worrying about a zombie apocalypse, I ask that they stop, a robot one can really happen. We need to remember the word “Artificial” in “Artificial” Intelligence. This is my opinion on AI over all. I mean, there’s more to it, but I don’t want to go too deep into my thoughts about it.
 
It’s one thing for a driver in peril to make a split second decision and have an accident.

It somehow feels different (to me) when a computer is ‘programmed’ to do something - more of a ‘choice’ than an accident.
 
True. But more true to say choice b/w 2 unavoidable accidents.
 
It is possible.

Just like a plot to kill JFK possibly involved a second shooter as part of the cover up, a robot could be used to do the dirty work.
 
Thinker_Doer said:
The topic is very interesting and will be realistic soon.
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Actually, artificial intelligence is already in use in many fields in the world of computer science. There are many ways it is used for good, such as cyber security. A developer can simply plug in an AI bot into the source code of a website (or how a website’s graphics are laid out, how personal info is stored, etc.) and check for vulnerabilities (errors) that can compromise the website being safe for a user to visit without giving the user’s device a virus. Said AI bot can fix the source code much faster and more effectively than a human computer engineer could, sparing the engineer from hours of eye strain from staring a screen all day.

However, AI bots can do the exact opposite, and can go into a remote web server, and knock it offline (which is a pretty extreme case, but that example was just for illustrative purposes only).
adamhovey1988 said:
I have heard with my own ears robots plotting to kill humans (seriously, it’s creepy).
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What you are thinking about are fully-autonomous weapons, which would require there to be a human programmer. Don’t worry, there ARE organizations that are advocating against this, such as the one below:

Campaign to Stop Killer Robots - Homepage
Bon_Croix said:
Just like a plot to kill JFK possibly involved a second shooter as part of the cover up, a robot could be used to do the dirty work.
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Last time I checked, artificial intelligence algorithms can be traced back to human programmers, even if the algorithm is capable of spawning multiple bots, or writing the source code for an entire website. So, a human would have to program the device to harm someone, whether it be modifying an already-existing source code (like an open-source project), or programming something entirely from scratch (which is much more time-consuming). The person can’t just use the device to do their evil bidding and get away with it, since that’s what crime investigators do.
 
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I think AI are not scary, so long no human use it to victimize other humans.

The ethic should focus in the area of respecting humans privacy against other humans.

In my opinion, it is unethical if other human have access to somebody’s privacy in a way that this human knows more information about the person than the person himself.

So long it is saved in/by machines inside data centers, and being accessed based on relevace For example traffic robot can send traffic violation ticket to me, but no human police should be able to check all my travel history. Human police is allowed to access my travel history based on certain time/ date at certain location where I am being a suspect of a crime, for example. But he should not have access to all my database. Because if he does, he may misuse that information.

On the other hand, I should be allowed to know all of records about myself if I need it. But no other humans should know about me more than myself.

This is also especially will become very important in the future that nobody can stalk people’s current location. It is very important that devices are designed only AI knows people locations, but irrelevant humans/ human institutions should not have access/ hack it.

The law should be made clear how institutions allowed limited access including gov and commercial companies banks

666 is the number of one person. And one person means dictatorship.
 
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I am rather confused. How is assigning a robot to do a dirty task the same as the robot actively involved in the plot? What you are describing seems no different than using a gun do kill someone, ie we are just using a machine at a certain point of the process. We certainly wouldn’t say the gun was involved in plotting to kill a human.
 
It isn’t. The criminal is just trying to get away with making people think that the robot did it.
 
Well, we will let @adamhovey1988 explain, but the idea of “hearing robots plotting to kill humans” seems pretty clear to me. You have at least two robots, discussing verbally between the them a plan to kill multiple people. I for one would like to know the circumstances he heard this.
 
Robots can communicate and the communication can be made audible.
 
Of course, I remember back in the early 80s using modems that actually took the digitized signals and converted them to/from audio patterns that would travel through phone lines. That’s a long ways from plotting to kill humans.
 
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