Morality of downloading music that does not appear to be sold any longer

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There’s a CD torrent that I downloaded, Deep Space Bass from Rhino Records. This record, though listed, is no longer stocked at Amazon, and Rhino’s website no longer has an entry for it. It is not for sale at iTunes, and Googling it returns much the same results. It is reasonable to assume that the CD, released in 2001 and enjoying very meager sales, is no longer being sold and hence no longer being profited off of.

My question is: can I download the CD, for keeps obviously, in good conscience?
 
ESimmons said:
There’s a CD torrent that I downloaded, Deep Space Bass from Rhino Records. This record, though listed, is no longer stocked at Amazon, and Rhino’s website no longer has an entry for it. It is not for sale at iTunes, and Googling it returns much the same results. It is reasonable to assume that the CD, released in 2001 and enjoying very meager sales, is no longer being sold and hence no longer being profited off of.

My question is: can I download the CD, for keeps obviously, in good conscience?
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No, it is still immoral unless the copyright owner has made the right free for the public. In the past I used to give rides to people. Do you think that they can now borrow my car for a ride without asking for my permission?
 
ESimmons said:
There’s a CD torrent that I downloaded, Deep Space Bass from Rhino Records. This record, though listed, is no longer stocked at Amazon, and Rhino’s website no longer has an entry for it. It is not for sale at iTunes, and Googling it returns much the same results. It is reasonable to assume that the CD, released in 2001 and enjoying very meager sales, is no longer being sold and hence no longer being profited off of.

My question is: can I download the CD, for keeps obviously, in good conscience?
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If you live in Canada or Holland its legal to download music without paying.
 
ESimmons said:
There’s a CD torrent that I downloaded, Deep Space Bass from Rhino Records. This record, though listed, is no longer stocked at Amazon, and Rhino’s website no longer has an entry for it. It is not for sale at iTunes, and Googling it returns much the same results. It is reasonable to assume that the CD, released in 2001 and enjoying very meager sales, is no longer being sold and hence no longer being profited off of.

My question is: can I download the CD, for keeps obviously, in good conscience?
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Yes, you can in good conscience download it for your own use. There is no copyright infringement in that.
 
calchiquita said:
Yes, you can in good conscience download it for your own use. There is no copyright infringement in that.
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Can you please let us know where we can find that the last owner of the copyright relinquished his rights?
 
If you can’t find it for sale, it isn’t for sale. Regarding a loophole regarding going/accessing a country that doesn’t protect ownership rights doesn’t make it less stealing according to the Catechism.

As a cradle Catholic, one of my biggest problems with my fellow Catholics is that sometimes we rely too much on a legalistic approach.

In summary we could just ask ourselves is it the Truth and is it fair to all concerned where we put ourselves in the shoes of the other person and apply the Golden Rule.
 
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