Morality of KY Jelly

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I know this is a weird topic. I’m sacramentally married, I love my wife. Sometimes we use a little KY.

I have always assumed it was ok, because we aren’t using it in a manner that is immoral. I’ve never really thought about it, because the intent was never anything bad.

But, something just made me think all of a sudden, is it wrong because of the way it’s promoted and merchandised right next to the contraceptives? I always feel like I’m in an aisle of sinfulness. Should I buy the store brand instead of KY brand, because of their advertising and the way they promote the product? Or is all of it just wrong?
 
KY is a mere medical lubricant that was originally used medically and surgically all the time and not in sexual contexts.

It is NOT a contraceptive.

This applies to the generic brands, which was the same basic stuff, only cheaper.
 
bpbasilphx said:
KY is a mere medical lubricant that was originally used medically and surgically all the time and not in sexual contexts.

It is NOT a contraceptive.

This applies to the generic brands, which was the same basic stuff, only cheaper.
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Oh, yes. I know it’s not a contraceptive. It’s just next to the contraceptives. Like I said, the commercials for KY seem to be focused on the pleasures of the product, especially the different variants of the product. The packages says safe for use with condoms. I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t contributing to something by purchasing the product. Mostly because of the advertising and the fact that it’s in the same aisle as all the other garbage.
 
I think you’re thinking too hard. There is nothing inherently evil in it and it has many uses that are not even remotely connected to sex. Somebody can come up an immoral way to use almost every item imaginable. You aren’t going to be able avoid all of them.
 
Hmmm… By buying this product, you may be a part of a trend that causes them to increase the scale of their production, allowing them to lower their prices. Since this good is often used in conjunction with condoms, the lowered price may serve to increase demand for condoms.

So there you go- if you really want to believe you’re sinning, all it takes is a very very convoluted argument that nobody who wasn’t in the middle of studying for an economics exam would be insane enough to come up with.

Seriously though, I’m pretty sure there’s not a problem.
 
The Catholic teaching on this is best summed up in that everything is OK as long as it is part of a loving relationship between husband and wife, and results (at some point, not necessarily at the end) in the potential for creating life (if I can veil my words a bit). Anything to enhance sexual pleasure which does not detract from the Godly union is perfectly acceptable, such as certain outfits, toys, foreplay, afterplay, etc. As long as it is part of a loving relationship (meaning no threesomes, nothing that makes one person uncomfortable, etc.) and has at least the potential to result in a baby, its acceptable. KY is unequivocally acceptable, and, in my book, should be encouraged if it helps the female be more comfortable and not be nervous about her natural functions not being sufficient for the task.
 
\Oh, yes. I know it’s not a contraceptive. It’s just next to the contraceptives.\

**And this means WHAT morally? You think mere juxtaposition taints an object? Inanimate objects cannot be immoral in and of themselves.

Does this mean you would avoid buying bathroom tissue because it’s on the same aisle with feminine hygeine products, which can be used contraceptively?

There are cold medicines in that same pharmacy that can be used to make the illegal drug crystal meth right next to the aspirins. So what?

And there’s nothing wrong with sexual pleasure in marriage. Just WHO do you think invented sexual pleasure to start with?**
 
06convert - I don’t think this is a weird question at all. Obviously, the use of KY inside marriage and in keeping with God’s plan for our sexuality is totally fine. I think what you are getting at maybe is the very provocative marketing KY uses…I have seen ads on TV and in print that are similar in nature to ads for condoms, etc. That sort of creates a connotation between KY and condoms for you, and probably for many people. I don’t think it makes you sinful for giving them your business…but if it something that is gnawing at you – have you researched alternative lubricants, or organic alternatives that also have other uses you can buy at a health food store or something?
 
06convert said:
But, something just made me think all of a sudden, is it wrong because of the way it’s promoted and merchandised right next to the contraceptives?
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Why stop with personal lubricants? You shouldn’t even shop at any stores that sell contraceptives, men’s magazines, beer and wine, or any of that stuff. It all leads to sin. You’ve got to draw a line somewhere…take stand for what you believe. Don’t do business with any small business owner or corporation that profits from the sale of these things.

(I’m using hyperbole to illustrate my point, of course.)
I always feel like I’m in an aisle of sinfulness. Should I buy the store brand instead of KY brand, because of their advertising and the way they promote the product? Or is all of it just wrong?
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Do you think that Target or Wal-mart owns a KY factory? It all comes from the same place, and only the packaging and labels are changed.

If you REALLY get hung up on this, try olive oil. God makes that.
 
Ok. That makes sense. Thanks for the responses everyone. Sometimes I over think silly things like this.

I just didn’t know if KY was somehow intermixed with the whole contraceptive and pre-marital sex world. I just don’t want to be affiliated with that in any way.

But yes. I suppose if you are using it for good and not evil. That’s what it comes down to.

Thanks again.
 
Coconut oil is a better lubricant than KY, and it’s also created by God.

I don’t think there is a problem with choosing something from the contraceptive aisle if it’s not contraceptive. There’s no guilt by association…🤷
 
Plus I wanted to suggest KY to someone, but thougth I better make sure I wasn’t recommending something bad. :o
 
Just a parallel comment. I find it extremely uncomfortable when the KY commercials come on and I am sitting there with my young children. Won’t be long before one of them pins me down to explain the “mind blowing” experience this product purports to create.

I believe use of the product is fine, but I think the commercials don’t belong on TV. This poses a dilemma for me because it’s not consistent to say a product is ok, but the company should not be able to market it. I stand confused.
 
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Plus I wanted to suggest KY to someone, but thougth I better make sure I wasn’t recommending something bad. :o
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Some research has shown that KY and most other lubricants can be spermicidal and/or inhibit conception. It is not its main function, but can be the result of the ingredients on sperm integrity.

As I posted earlier, coconut oil is a good natural lubricant (olive oil or vegetable oil can work as well, but I can’t imagine having a bottle of Crisco in the bedside table), and is non-spermicidal as far as I am aware. There is a brand of lubricant called PreSeed for those trying to conceive who might have existing fertility issues. In the end, as one of the articles says, the best lubricant is created by a woman’s body. Foreplay is free and non-spermicidal 👍
 
xformer7 said:
Just a parallel comment. I find it extremely uncomfortable when the KY commercials come on and I am sitting there with my young children. Won’t be long before one of them pins me down to explain the “mind blowing” experience this product purports to create.

I believe use of the product is fine, but I think the commercials don’t belong on TV. This poses a dilemma for me because it’s not consistent to say a product is ok, but the company should not be able to market it. I stand confused.
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I think that commercial is for a particular kind of KY that is, erm, more than a lubricant. 😊

I am not sure about the use of these types of “performance-enhancers” in Christian marriage. Perhaps this is the topic of another thread…
 
Hello,

Important! Regarding this product!

There was a study actually that found that there is an negative effect on sperm mobility and thus on conception possibly (on this brand I believe and others). So pro-life Catholic doctor said not to use them…

The one that this is NOT the case is --is the product called Pre Seed which actually instead of causing problems with mobility helps. There is also from the same company the product Pre. BOTH are good and do NOT harm the mobility.

They have a website …just google them.
 
Rach620 said:
Some research has shown that KY and most other lubricants can be spermicidal and/or inhibit conception. It is not its main function, but can be the result of the ingredients on sperm integrity.

As I posted earlier, coconut oil is a good natural lubricant (olive oil or vegetable oil can work as well, but I can’t imagine having a bottle of Crisco in the bedside table), and is non-spermicidal as far as I am aware. There is a brand of lubricant called PreSeed for those trying to conceive who might have existing fertility issues. In the end, as one of the articles says, the best lubricant is created by a woman’s body. Foreplay is free and non-spermicidal 👍
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This is very interesting, thanks for the important information! Of course, I must mention that morally, if it is not used to prevent conception, the fact that it lowers the chances of conception does not make it wrong. As I understand it, certain positions, the female’s activity after the act, and even what the couple eats can affect chances of conception–these things become morally wrong if used specifically to prevent conception, but not if used for other reasons and the couple is still open to conception. So I’m not sure I’m ready to toss out the KY yet… but I really do appreciate the information, I had definitely never heard that before.
 
camerong said:
This is very interesting, thanks for the important information! Of course, I must mention that morally, if it is not used to prevent conception, the fact that it lowers the chances of conception does not make it wrong. As I understand it, certain positions, the female’s activity after the act, and even what the couple eats can affect chances of conception–these things become morally wrong if used specifically to prevent conception, but not if used for other reasons and the couple is still open to conception. So I’m not sure I’m ready to toss out the KY yet… but I really do appreciate the information, I had definitely never heard that before.
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Right, I agree with this. The intention in the use of KY or any lubricant is not to reduce sperm motility in this situation, so it’s not immoral to use. I posted this info mostly because most people are not aware of this, and if a couple is trying to conceive and having any trouble at all, it’s helpful information to have.
 
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