More Buddhists than Eastern Orthodox in America

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I found this article interesting. What are ya’lls thoughts on this?

aoiusa.org/blog/2010/01/there-are-more-buddhists-in-america-today-than-eastern-orthodox-christians/

In regards to the following paragraph:
“As a former Hindu and disciple of a well-known guru, or spiritual teacher, I can tell you Orthodox Christianity shares more “common ground” with seekers of non-Christian spiritual traditions of the east than any other Christian confession! The truth is when Evangelical Protestants attempt to evangelize the eastern seeker they often do more harm than good, because their approach is western, rational, and doctrinal, with (generally) little understanding of the paradigms and spiritual language (or yearnings) of the seekers of these eastern faiths.”
Do you feel most Western Christians, Roman Catholic and Protestant approach discussion with these folk in a manner that might be more appropriate for a secularist or an atheist?
Do Eastern Christians (Catholic and Orthodox) use a different approach in practice?
 
We need an Orthodox or Eastern Catholic celebrity to boost our numbers 😛

I heard Mila Kunis is Ukrainian… 😉
 
I think the approach of the Eastern Churches is much better suited to evangelizing Asia and Africa than that of the Evangelical Protestant tradition, to be sure.

The rational West, for example, likes to posit reasons why we should be in the existence of God.

In the Christian East, we embrace God first and then we can think about Him. For the East, faith is not the end result of a long series of philosophic disputations.

If we have faith, it is because God put it into us to believe. It is a Gift of God from the beginning. We can destroy the life of faith, but it is God Who puts faith in us.

Also, the whole idea of Theosis, the transformation/deification in Christ through the Holy Spirit speaks to the Asian philosophies.

Eastern Christian missionaries differ in their approach by going into a community where they begin to serve the Divine Liturgy and the services of the Church. They believe that the prayer of the Church will draw people to Christ and the Holy Trinity.

And it certainly does!

Alex
 
Buddhists, at least Zen Buddhists, have one psychological similarity with that of the Evangelical Protestant tradition. They both live for today, because neither have to worry about what will come after this life. In the case of the Evangelical Protestant’s their Eternal Salvation doesn’t depend on what they do, but on what Christ has already done for them, so their Salvation need not be worried about. In the case of Zen Buddhism, many don’t even believe in a here-after or if they do it has no significant relevant’s because there is no belief in “sin” than needs to be atoned for or any other thing that must be done to prepare for the here-after. It’s simple, the only goal is to be one with all that is. From a psychological point of view this is probably a healthier point of view, one that is very appealing to the average American.
 
I think the approach of the Eastern Churches is much better suited to evangelizing Asia and Africa than that of the Evangelical Protestant tradition, to be sure.

The rational West, for example, likes to posit reasons why we should be in the existence of God.

In the Christian East, we embrace God first and then we can think about Him. For the East, faith is not the end result of a long series of philosophic disputations.

If we have faith, it is because God put it into us to believe. It is a Gift of God from the beginning. We can destroy the life of faith, but it is God Who puts faith in us.

Also, the whole idea of Theosis, the transformation/deification in Christ through the Holy Spirit speaks to the Asian philosophies.

Eastern Christian missionaries differ in their approach by going into a community where they begin to serve the Divine Liturgy and the services of the Church. They believe that the prayer of the Church will draw people to Christ and the Holy Trinity.

And it certainly does!

Alex
Maybe you should visit the Philippines sometime, Alex 😉
 
While it may be true that the Eastern Orthodox tradition is closer to the “feel” of Eastern religions in many ways, it’s also true that Eastern Orthodoxy has been far less successful at converting people from Eastern religions to Christianity than the Latin tradition has been (and Evangelical Protestantism is making major headway nowadays). Why this is the case may have many causes, but it’s worth noting.

I can relate my own personal experience with my wife. She is Japanese, from a Shinto-Buddhist background, and she was Baptized this year in the Melkite Catholic Church. On her journey towards Catholicism, however, she seems to have found the Latin writings much more convincing and helpful precisely because of the more rational approach, though now that she’s converted the Melkite tradition is the norm. I believe that when one comes from a more “experiential” religious tradition, there is really not much that differentiates one of these types of religion from another. After all, if God is primarily to be experienced first, then there is little appeal to someone who already “experiences” the spiritual benefits through their own tradition. It is precisely the rational arguments that cut to the differences, and explain why the Christian God is more reasonable answer to spiritual questions, that open the door to conversion.

In syncretic cultures like those in the East there is really no impetus to switch from one “experiential spirituality” to another, since they are all equal aspects of the one true reality; what is needed is something that is undeniable and different, something that cuts through the syncretism. I fear that the article in the OP plays to the syncretism, rather than cutting through it. What Eastern (as in Asian) people need, IMO, is to know directly why and how Christ is the unique answer to the human dilemma, and how this fact can make a practical, day to day change in one’s life, not an expression by Christians of how similar our approaches to God are; I believe that merely encourages people to not convert, because in their syncretic cultures they are already surrounded by religions and traditions that fit that bill, and Christianity becomes just another one.

Just my thoughts, and I say this as someone who much prefers the prayer and practical tradition of the Byzantine East.

Peace and God bless!
 
I think I should add a post-script saying that the rational approach of the Latin tradition originates in the Christian East. It was the rediscovery of the Eastern Fathers that inspired the likes of Aquinas. So this isn’t an inherent “weakness” of the East. The rational tools are largely Eastern in origin, and can be reclaimed.
 
Dude- Troy Polamalu.
And Tina Fey and Tom Hanks actually O_o

Although I favor Eastern Orthodoxy not only because it’s a type of Christian but because its beliefs are the closest to ours, I must say the article simply doesn’t surprise me. :nope:
 
And Tina Fey and Tom Hanks actually O_o

Although I favor Eastern Orthodoxy not only because it’s a type of Christian but because its beliefs are the closest to ours, I must say the article simply doesn’t surprise me. :nope:
We need them to be Mel Gibson-proud of their faith 👍
 
And Tina Fey and Tom Hanks actually O_o

Although I favor Eastern Orthodoxy not only because it’s a type of Christian but because its beliefs are the closest to ours, I must say the article simply doesn’t surprise me. :nope:
I’m not sure either of them are practicing, though.
 
Hmm. That could be a blessing or a curse!

Bob Marley has a certain cool factor that someone like Tom Hanks lacks.
Very true. Fun little known fact (though probably known around these parts): Shortly before he died, Bob Marley converted to the Ethiopian Orthodox Church.
 
Tennis has quite a few–the East Europeans and Russians surely are Orthodox.

What about the Philippines?
Gosh Milliardo, I am so glad to see you! It seems like a dog’s age since we crossed paths here.

Welcome back! 🙂
 
Tennis has quite a few–the East Europeans and Russians surely are Orthodox.

What about the Philippines?
Nice to see you back here Father Deacon. How is the Antiochian Church in the Philippines?

Don’t you think Alex Roman here would make a wonderful guest to our country?
 
Gosh Milliardo, I am so glad to see you! It seems like a dog’s age since we crossed paths here.

Welcome back! 🙂
Thank you. I’ve been busy, that’s why I don’t post as much.
Nice to see you back here Father Deacon. How is the Antiochian Church in the Philippines?
Don’t you think Alex Roman here would make a wonderful guest to our country?
We’re doing well. Of course, there are a few challenges, but we always trust in the Lord.

I would think he would, though I don’t know him enough yet since I haven’t read much of his posts.
 
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