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I recently asked if it was a sin to watch shows like Ghost Aventures. I’ve always thought the
paranormal stuff on their shows were fake but now I’m wondering if there may be something to it. Last night they did an “EVP,” short for electronic voice phenomenon, which is something they do on every show. They’re trying to pick up ghost voices. Well, most of the time when they play back the “voices” I can’t make out anything they’re
supposedly saying, but last night the Ghost Adventures guys were trying to pick up the voice of a woman’s deceased mother and asked for her to tell them their “code word,” an obscure name of some business that NOBODY could have guessed. Only the deceased woman and her daughter knew this word. The EVP picked up a female voice saying the word, which, unlike most times, the voice was very clear.

Are Catholics allowed to believe in ghosts and, if so, doesn’t their existence contradict our teachings of life after death?
 
Faith1960 said:
I recently asked if it was a sin to watch shows like Ghost Aventures. I’ve always thought the
paranormal stuff on their shows were fake but now I’m wondering if there may be something to it. Last night they did an “EVP,” short for electronic voice phenomenon, which is something they do on every show. They’re trying to pick up ghost voices. Well, most of the time when they play back the “voices” I can’t make out anything they’re
supposedly saying, but last night the Ghost Adventures guys were trying to pick up the voice of a woman’s deceased mother and asked for her to tell them their “code word,” an obscure name of some business that NOBODY could have guessed. Only the deceased woman and her daughter knew this word. The EVP picked up a female voice saying the word, which, unlike most times, the voice was very clear.

Are Catholics allowed to believe in ghosts and, if so, doesn’t their existence contradict our teachings of life after death?
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Which is more likely: That ghosts exist or that a show that makes money from others’ belief in ghosts might fabricate evidence to reinforce that belief?
 
cornbread_r2 said:
Which is more likely: That ghosts exist or that a show that makes money from others’ belief in ghosts might fabricate evidence to reinforce that belief?
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How could they have fabricated the mother saying the code word that only her daughter, who didn’t say what it was, knew?
 
I used to be interested in ghosts myself. I read countless books, watched all the documentaries, and even went to the conferences. I met a numerologist once who told me detailed information about my past that he had no possible way of knowing. I came to the conclusion that, although a lot of this stuff is fake, a small percentage of it is most likely real. To that end, one common denominator always stood out. The stuff that was likely authentic seemed to often have a bit of deception mixed in with it. For example, when an EVP or other information source successfully produced correct information that only a deceased relative would know, there was almost always incorrect information mixed in with that. This phenomenon is consistent with demonic activity since their whole agenda is to mislead us, lie to us, and generally lead us away from truth. I’ve come to the conclusion that we have to decide which way to go. We can keep following the ghost phenomenon and come up to the same dead ends, or we can follow Jesus who never deceives us. In the end, we really have to choose one because they are contrary to each other. The Old Testament teaches us to stay away from this stuff for a reason. I think the reason is to protect us from being led in the wrong direction (away from God). I admit, the whole ghost thing is VERY interesting. However, I’ve decided to keep a very safe distance in light of my experiences with it and the conclusions I have drawn. Be careful.
 
The Church does not forbid to believe in ghosts.

Even if something exists that we would call a “ghost”, however, it in no way disproves Church teaching on human eschatology. The “ghost” may not be a dead human being at all; or if it is, it could easily be someone from Purgatory.

ICXC NIKA
 
GEddie said:
The Church does not forbid to believe in ghosts.

Even if something exists that we would call a “ghost”, however, it in no way disproves Church teaching on human eschatology. The “ghost” may not be a dead human being at all; or if it is, it could easily be someone from Purgatory.

ICXC NIKA
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Does anyone have any explanations for the voices heard on Ghost Adventures, unexplained shadows, mists and bizarre happenings like when a drawer opened on it’s own, a heavy steel door slamming shut with no air or anything to explain it, various items falling with no explanation etc. on this show?

It seems like the stuff happening on the show is real, not a product of a hoax, so… Are these things on the show a product of demons, people in purgatory or what? I’d have to wonder just how many people from purgatory could be manifesting themselves this often and in so many places.

My husband is very skeptical about the things that happen on the show but he can’t offer an explanation for those happenings, either.

Thoughts?
 
I think most shows about paranormal stuff sometimes put as we say in Spanish, they put to much hot sauce on their tacos. Sometimes they over react or play it off to make look real. But these ghost adventures seem real. They made a documentary in this place in California. A Spanish group went to the same place several months later and saw similar stuff. Now can it be coincidence, probably so but I don’t think so.

My god kids father went I baptized his 2 kids, he and I were talking about ghosts, whether they exist or not. He was telling me that he is not firm believer of them but that the show he felt was more accurate and more real was ghost adventures bc they spent the entire night there.

I like ghost adventures, paranormal witness, and extranormal de impacto which is in Spanish, they do investigations in Mexico. When you talk to ppl in Latin America they will tell you stories that has been passed from generations. Some are just urban legends but other are real stories that has happened to several ppl.
 
Peter Kreeft, Michael Vorris and Jimmy Akin, 3 diverse speakers for the church, as well as apologists on this website have all spoken about ghosts, and how beliefe in them is not sinful, and may even be beneficial to us.

That being said, not everything on tv is a ghost. If it hurts people, it is not a ghost.
 
To quote someone I won’t even bother mentioning by name, “This reminds me of all those silly and daft ghost hunter programs that ever so popular these days. Why can they not… FIND something? What is WRONG with these people?” :tiphat:

A link that might be of interest can be found here.
 
Well I believe in ghosts, when my dad passed , he stayed at our house,
Heard noises, lights went on, doors closed, all kinds of things, we both really felt his presents . I spoke to a lady which I had never know earlier, and she said my dad was with me, I said prove it… She then told me that he was pointing to his feet, there is something wrong with his feet, he told her it would prove to me that it was him…
Only you know about his feet … I said yes, he has deformed feet,
It confirmed a couple of things to me… Strengthened my faith In Jesus, and made be believe in Ghosts …
 
I sort of take a middle of the road view. I watched one of the ghost shows on the sci-fi channel a few days ago because it was about an old house in my old home town in rural Oklahoma (of all places) that was supposed to be haunted. I couldn’t believe they featured my old home town–a small place that I’m pretty sure nobody had ever heard of before. I learned of the show by way of an alumni site I belong to–so I watched it. ANYWAY, they supposedly had a priest from the parish there come out and run the bad old ghost out. I listened and watched–but I have a healthy skepticism-- not only about the haunting itself, but because I happen to know the priests there and I just can’t quite picture one of them exorcising a ghost for anyone. I could be wrong–but I wouldn’t have even had the nerve to go tell them that I thought my house was possessed–much less ask them to come out and shoo the spirit away that was haunting it! I think they might have told me that both myself and my house were going to burn in hell–after they quit laughing, of course!😉 They are pretty much “Bible-Belt” in that part of northern Oklahoma I refer to and are a fairly “stick-to-business” group. Having said that, my younger sister swears that a house she once lived in was haunted/possessed–whatever you call it. Both she and my nephew swear that things moved, that the kid saw things–I mean, I don’t know. I do believe in spirits–I mean at death, that’s what we all will be. We know that Satan is on earth, so could the spirits of the saved be also around us–at least sometimes? Maybe so. I think that perhaps the reason–at least one reason— that we are warned against fortune tellers. numerologists etc, is that spirits or no spirits, it’s God we are to rely on–not our dead aunt. It’s easy to get sucked in to that kinda thing, y’know what I mean?
 
In my family, most have experienced things that cannot be explained, myself included.

What gets me, as a religion, the Catholic Church doesn’t like people talking about mystical experiences or it puts them down to evil occurrences, but at the same time you have Saints like St Faustina who reportedly spoke to Jesus and Mary and St Padre Pio and others who witnessed similar things of which the church has no qualms about discussing or believing!

Yes, they are saints. Lots in the Catholic Church did not believe them when they were alive.

What’s to say that they were making things up, or illusinating etc? We don’t have proof for what they witnessed or seen or heard? I know they are saints and are very holy but I am sure that a lot of others in the world witness things that are then pushed under the carpet by the church.

Just my thoughts 👍
 
Starrsmother said:
I sort of take a middle of the road view. I watched one of the ghost shows on the sci-fi channel a few days ago because it was about an old house in my old home town in rural Oklahoma (of all places) that was supposed to be haunted. I couldn’t believe they featured my old home town–a small place that I’m pretty sure nobody had ever heard of before. I learned of the show by way of an alumni site I belong to–so I watched it. ANYWAY, they supposedly had a priest from the parish there come out and run the bad old ghost out. I listened and watched–but I have a healthy skepticism-- not only about the haunting itself, but because I happen to know the priests there and I just can’t quite picture one of them exorcising a ghost for anyone. I could be wrong–but I wouldn’t have even had the nerve to go tell them that I thought my house was possessed–much less ask them to come out and shoo the spirit away that was haunting it! I think they might have told me that both myself and my house were going to burn in hell–after they quit laughing, of course!😉 They are pretty much “Bible-Belt” in that part of northern Oklahoma I refer to and are a fairly “stick-to-business” group. Having said that, my younger sister swears that a house she once lived in was haunted/possessed–whatever you call it. Both she and my nephew swear that things moved, that the kid saw things–I mean, I don’t know. I do believe in spirits–I mean at death, that’s what we all will be. We know that Satan is on earth, so could the spirits of the saved be also around us–at least sometimes? Maybe so. I think that perhaps the reason–at least one reason— that we are warned against fortune tellers. numerologists etc, is that spirits or no spirits, it’s God we are to rely on–not our dead aunt. It’s easy to get sucked in to that kinda thing, y’know what I mean?
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You have a point!
 
No such thing as ghosts. Just angels and demons.

If you go looking for trouble, it will find you.

Some doors are best left unopened.

I speak from experience.
 
Vigilant said:
No such thing as ghosts. Just angels and demons.

If you go looking for trouble, it will find you.

Some doors are best left unopened.

I speak from experience.
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Then how do you explain all the things that happen on this show? I mean they can’t all be demons, and it can’t all be faked, either.
 
Faith1960 said:
Then how do you explain all the things that happen on this show? I mean they can’t all be demons, and it can’t all be faked, either.
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Why couldn’t some be demons, some be natural illusions, and some be faked?

Seriously, of all the hypotheses to explain this sort of stuff, the idea of dead human beings messing with our heads seems by far the least likely. Even if the dead were in any position to want to do that.

ICXC NIKA.
 
Faith1960 said:
Then how do you explain all the things that happen on this show? I mean they can’t all be demons, and it can’t all be faked, either.
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ROFL! It has to be true! I saw in on TV!

The above quote is a golden example of why I took my TV to the landfill, years ago.

The only possible exceptions to my post would be a legit appearance from a Saint or the Blessed Virgin, or an occasional visitation from a deceased person that God allows. Bob Crowley has shared such an experience with us more than once.
 
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