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A Miami dad, an immigrant from Argentina who was applying for permanent residency,
lost his wallet this summer. When he got a phone call from someone saying it had
been found, he went to collect it. To his surprise, he was greeted by Immigration
and Customs Enforcement agents, who detained him.

The man, Flavio Musmanno, has lived in the U.S. since 2000. Though his visa was expired,
he is married to a U.S. citizen and was in the process of applying for permanent residency.

Musmanno was in Ohio doing construction work when he lost his wallet at a gas station.
An hour later, he received a phone call from someone claiming to have found the wallet and
offering to return it. But when he met with the individual on Aug. 28, he was arrested
by ICE officials, according to sources. He has been in custody since then and
is expected to be deported to Argentina on Tuesday.

Musmanno’s stepdaughter Paola told the sources that the ICE agents didn’t identify
themselves on the phone. She also said Citizenship and Immigration Services recently confirmed
that it received his petition for a green card.

“They just want to deport him,” Paola said. “They won’t tell us anything else. We sent them
the petition he filed, but they just ignored it and keep saying they’re going to deport him.
And things are not good where we came from — if people find out he was living in Miami, they
might think he has money and try to rob him or kidnap him.”

Musmanno’s 15-year-old son, Francisco Musmanno, said he saw his father
in an Ohio detention center.

“His fingers, his skin was peeling off because of the nervousness,” the teen said. “You
could see that his movements just didn’t feel natural, he didn’t feel OK.

(Sources don’t include Sarah Huckabee Sanders so would you really feel any better seeing them?)
 
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The man, Flavio Musmanno, has lived in the U.S. since 2000. Though his visa was expired,
he is married to a U.S. citizen and was in the process of applying for permanent residency.
Well, he’s definitely been procrastinating…

I know someone who’s a Permanent Resident and still hasn’t applied for Citizenship! They’ve been in the country for over 50 years!

I don’t understand some people…
 
I’m of the opinion that people should act as quickly as possible! Nowadays it’s too risky.
 
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If they’re a Permanent Resident, do they have to become a citizen?
Technically, no. However, I wouldn’t consider it prudent. You can still be deported.

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclop...y-when-legal-us-residents-can-be-removed.html

The individual I know experienced having their sister deported for possessing marijuana. So, although you can stay it’s risky.
Maybe they have good reasons for not wanting to.
I would think that the risks of NOT obtaining Citizenship outweigh “their” reasons.
 
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I believe you have to show some speaking ability of the English language and know a little civics too .
If you’re born here or become naturalized by your parents, no problem.
 
The US system if nothing like the UK. My daughter in law became a citizen same way as always. Given a book to study. Cost $725 to file. Must be able to read one of three sentences in English, write one of three sentences in English and answer 10 simple questions on civil laws out of 100. Not difficult and is done pretty quickly.

My daughter, son-in law lived in England for 5 years and their daughter was born there. The daughter was not given citizenship and they decided to spent about $3500-$5000. to get her dual citizenship at the end and as you stated so much paperwork. Each time they flew home with her, they had trouble getting her back in as there was so much paperwork and money involved and had to make sure everything was in order.
 
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Did they just change things? My brother and I were both born in the U.K. but brought here by our parents. I just presumed we were British citizens as no one renounced AFAIK.
 
If they’re a Permanent Resident, do they have to become a citizen? Maybe they have good reasons for not wanting to.
Chiming in, I know someone in a situation like that. Married to a US citizen, has children here, works here, been here for probably around 30 years. The reason they haven’t gotten citizenship though is because their country of origin doesn’t allow dual citizenship and they want to retire back there. So there can be reasons.
 
You better check as I am not sure. It may have something to do with the fact that they themselves were not citizens of the UK.They thought about getting dual citizenship because they were there 5 years and could now apply but it was too costly for them.This child is 4 years old, born there and not a citizen but recently got dual citizenship.

As I said travel to US was a major problem both times they came for a visit to even get her back into the UK, had to jump hoops.
 
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There are classes you can take for that stuff and people who will help you. The local churches that have a lot of immigrants are always advertising citizenship classes.

The people I know who have shied away from citizenship in US were often afraid that something would be found in their records that could cause them to be deported, and they would rather just stay permanent residents and take their chances. In some cases a lawyer had advised them it was better to not try to be a citizen. A few others had economic or personal reasons to remain citizens of wherever they came from.
 
He’s lived continuously in the US for nearly 2 decades and he’s just getting around to applying for permanent residence? Yeah, blame ICE…
 
He’s lived continuously in the US for nearly 2 decades and he’s just getting around to applying for permanent residence? Yeah, blame ICE…
He’s already applied for his green card. He’s not hiding in the shadows.
 
I didn’t see how long he’s been married to an American, but my wife applied for her green card the day after we were married.
 
I didn’t see how long he’s been married to an American, but my wife applied for her green card the day after we were married.
The source where it originally appeared:

https://risenews.net/2018/10/hes-ma...son-but-hes-getting-deported-tomorrow-anyway/

Quote from the article:
-Flavio came to the country from Argentina under the visa waiver program and stayed after it expired. He married his longtime girlfriend Fabiana Zuin in 2017. At the time they were married, Fabiana was a permanent resident who was on the way to receiving her citizenship.
As I interpret it, he had already overstayed his visa (i.e., was here illegally), and then got married in 2017.
 
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