More RCs using NFP than in 2000?

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In a discussion with a particularly odious blogger about NFP I stated (from memory) that more Catholic families are dropping artificial contraception and using NFP than before.

Now I can’t find the stat. Can anyone help?
 
triumphguy said:
In a discussion with a particularly odious blogger about NFP I stated (from memory) that more Catholic families are dropping artificial contraception and using NFP than before.

Now I can’t find the stat. Can anyone help?
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I can’t imagine that could be determined with any accuracy. And I would imagine the number to be negligible. But I would look forward to seeing the stat.
 
Keep us posted if you find anything.

I would wonder if perhaps the data would be old anyway. I think the way the general public and even most Catholics think that they would be swayed by a media rendition of our Holy Father that gives the impression that the sinfulness of ABC is up for debate. Some seem to think it is only a pen stroke away and sitting on the HF desk.:rolleyes:

I would think NFP would have gone down in recent years. In my old diocese there is one couple for the entire diocese that teaches it and it is usually to Mormon couples. In a diocese of about 150,000 Catholics they teach about 6-10 couples a year.🤷
 
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Keep us posted if you find anything.

I would wonder if perhaps the data would be old anyway. I think the way the general public and even most Catholics think that they would be swayed by a media rendition of our Holy Father that gives the impression that the sinfulness of ABC is up for debate. Some seem to think it is only a pen stroke away and sitting on the HF desk.:rolleyes:

I would think NFP would have gone down in recent years. In my old diocese there is one couple for the entire diocese that teaches it and it is usually to Mormon couples. In a diocese of about 150,000 Catholics they teach about 6-10 couples a year.🤷
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They teach it a lot around here…they tell me it’s because young women are now afraid of the pill and various other drugs. More of a health issue for them than a moral issue I suppose. 🤷
 
pianistclare said:
They teach it a lot around here…they tell me it’s because young women are now afraid of the pill and various other drugs. More of a health issue for them than a moral issue I suppose. 🤷
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Yeah, my current parish has three instructors just in the one parish. But I get the feeling it has always been that way at our current parish.
 
Here it is:

whatcatholicwomenthink.com/What_Catholic_Women_Think_Contraception-Aug_2012.pdf
Our research found that up to one-third of church-going
Catholic women (26-33%, depending on the question)
hold mistaken beliefs about the Church’s teaching on
contraception. For example, 33% of Catholic women
incorrectly believe that the Church teaches that couples have
the right to decide the moral acceptability of contraception
regardless of Church teaching.
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When presented with an accurate description of the
Church’s teachings on family planning, many Catholic
women show reluctance to completely reject the Church’s
teaching. Instead, three groups emerge: “the faithful”
(who fully accept the Church’s teaching), “the dissenters”
(who completely reject the Church’s teaching), and the
“soft middle” (who accept “parts” but “not all” of the
teaching). In addition, a signi#cant number of women in
the “soft middle” show openness to learning more about
the Church’s teachings on contraception and natural
family planning (NFP).
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Frequent sacramental practice signals greater likelihood of
complete acceptance of Church teaching on contraception
and family planning. While few Catholic women overall
(13%) completely accept the Church’s teaching, that
number doubles (27%) among young (18-34) women
who attend Church every week. And it climbs still higher
among women who both attend Mass weekly and have
been to confession within the past year—37% of these
women completely accept the Church’s teaching.
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I dont see where it compares to a separate study in the year 2000. I still am perusing the study but I don’t see much promise for credibility. For one, its sample is only half of the Catholic population of it’s scope. Only women. And two, I don’t know how they are defining “Catholic” But I will look at it a little harder later.
 
Hoosier_Daddy said:
I dont see where it compares to a separate study in the year 2000. I still am perusing the study but I don’t see much promise for credibility. For one, its sample is only half of the Catholic population of it’s scope. Only women. And two, I don’t know how they are defining “Catholic” But I will look at it a little harder later.
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Thanks for looking.
 
triumphguy said:
Thanks for looking.
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Thanks for reminding me!😉

Ok I looked it over and yikes!

The first and nitty gritty of it is that you did not find it. It does not make any claim about more Catholics using NFP than in 2000.
Second, the study itself is severely flawed. For the love of pete would it kill them to learn how to throw a couple graphs together!?
First off I think it is gives a bad sample to just sample women. I think it indicates an erroneous belief that it is a woman and a choice issue. When really openness to life, NFP ABC and sex should be between a Catholic married couple. Men and women.
Second, they tried to claim how they wanted to have a good Catholic sample and emphasized Mass attendance. But while they excluded non attendies, they did have half of the study under the category of “a few times a year”

Now, comes the bad bad part. 13 percent of the Catholic women agreed with the Church on ABC… That is damning. And while they did a job trying to find the silver linings, it looked pretty grim. I am not sure what the study intended, but it could have been written and conducted better and more accurately. I say that as a person who reads a lot of scientific research papers for peer review.

But if I like the study or not is beside the point anyway. That study does not make the claim in the OP. Keep digging!👍
 
Thanks for trying!

I ended up telling the guy that 100% of Catholics sin, but that doesn’t make sin right, or the 10 commandments too strict.

I post on topics in the Guardian (UK newspaper) online comments and I have this guy (Irish, ex catholic) who basically shadows every post I make to make some anti-catholic remark.
 
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