More women converting to Islam than men

[Rebecca_New]

There must be something about their dogmas that appeals to the female way of thinking-incorrect as it may be.

 

[francesco920]

I guess burqas must be the latest fashion or something.

Model displays burqa during fashion show in Kabul

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“A model displays an Afghan burqa designed by Gabriella Ghidoni and Zolaykha Sherzad during Afghanistan’s first fashion show in years, held at a luxury hotel in the capital Kabul on July 8, 2006. Picture taken July 8, 2006. REUTERS/Ahmad Masood (AFGHANISTAN)”

 

[Montalban]

Most women want to stop being treated like sex objects. Most men want to keep treating women like sex objects.

Therefore, Islam will appeal to more women than men.

Unfortunately Islam does not mean that women aren’t treated as sex objects.

In fact, in Islam, if a woman refuses sex with her husband, she’s cursed.

“The prophet of Allah said: When a man calls his wife to satisfy his desire, let her come to him though she is occupied at the oven.”
Mishkat al-Masabih, English translation, Book I, Section ‘Duties of husband and wife’, Hadith No. 61

 

[Alexius]

****Someone told me recently that majority of converts to Islam are women.

This greatly disturbed me.

Why is it that women are more prone to convert to Islam than men?

Well, I guess that just goes to show that ‘woman’ is the weaker gender (i.e. Eve)… (DISCLAIMER: JUST A JOKE; I AM NOT AGAINST WOMEN!).

 

[Montalban]

I guess burqas must be the latest fashion or something.

Model displays burqa during fashion show in Kabul

http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/reuters_molt/2665778160.jpg

“A model displays an Afghan burqa designed by Gabriella Ghidoni and Zolaykha Sherzad during Afghanistan’s first fashion show in years, held at a luxury hotel in the capital Kabul on July 8, 2006. Picture taken July 8, 2006. REUTERS/Ahmad Masood (AFGHANISTAN)”

I find that picture most disturbing. I still see too much flesh and have strong sexual desires towards her. She should cover herself up even more so I don’t lust after her
-some Moslem

 

[francesco920]

I find that picture most disturbing. I still see too much flesh and have strong sexual desires towards her. She should cover herself up even more so I don’t lust after her
-some Moslem

another muslim says:

"some Moslem is right!

I see hands (HANDS!!!)

And are those FEET!!!???

ALLAH HELP ME!!!

THIS is how females ought to dress:"

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/3464/burqa1oc7.jpg

 

[gam197]

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n fact, in Islam, if a woman refuses sex with her husband, she’s cursed.

As a catholic, I was taught it was a sin to not submit. Maybe it is about being teated as sex object but initially the women are treated with a great deal of respect and they think they have met a different type of man. Things do change once married.

 

[Ma.Eugenia]

Hello everyone!

Regarding what **Montalban **said:

“The prophet of Allah said: When a man calls his wife to satisfy his desire, let her come to him though she is occupied at the oven.”
Mishkat al-Masabih, English translation, Book I, Section ‘Duties of husband and wife’, Hadith No. 61

I believe that people are made equal, though we have specific roles in life to play. Some people have differing views on what equality means.

Personally, I prefer that women are be given a say in everything that happens to them. What if the wife has a legitimate reason to say “no” to sex? Does her opinion not matter in these things?

At the same time, I think its best that the burden of chastity would fall on both genders and not on women only.

Regarding what **deb1 **said:

I believe that it is human nature to value what is more difficult over what is easy to attain do. Modern Christians sometimes forget this and assume that religion should be brought in line with secular practices

I agree with you that secularism did not make life better–it made us yearn even more for a better one.

While Christianity provides the answers, not everyone seeks it or try very much to understand its teachings well…and then they seeks it elsewhere.

Regarding what **GregoryPalamas **said:

Several Muslim women compare the secular purience of American society with the relative modesty of Islamic practice and find Islam to be superior. In this area I do as well.

I agree secularism is not the answer. Is Islam then the answer?

Christianity hold strict rules on dressing also. Its up to our conscience to follow or not (though, I must admit some do have little consciences ).

I think one of the differences is if we choose not to follow the conservative dress code, Christians do not get punished for it. We let be up to God to judge the person and give just punishment.

Muslims, I think, have stricter rules and implement their own judgement and punishment.

Regading the picture of the burqa from francesco920:

I respect those who choose to wear it freely. It is their choice.

Personally, though, I want to wear conservative clothes that show of a little more skin that that.

I think, there is something terribly wrong with a man who thinks women are “asking for it” when he sees them wearing a knee-length skirt and a blouse with sleeves. Does a woman have to dress like a tent to be de-classified as sex-objects?

I dress to please myself. It makes me happy and lifts up my mood if I wear clothes in different styles and colors. Apparently, with the burqa, the only choice I women can make is the color of the fabric.

Again, I am not saying it is wrong. The burqa is fine as long as the person who wears it do so as a personal choice without fear of reprisal from anyone for showing off more skin than the tips of their hands and feet.

(continued in next reply)

 

[Ma.Eugenia]

Regarding what **Genesis315 **said:

Most women want to stop being treated like sex objects. Most men want to keep treating women like sex objects.

You’re right that women do not want to be treated like sex objects.

I think there should also be a re-thinking of attitudes of men towards women.

However, is Islam the answer to their concern?

Regarding what Rebecca New said:

There must be something about their dogmas that appeals to the female way of thinking-incorrect as it may be.

I think you may have a point here. I think it is the way Islamic dogmas are presented to women, plus the added factor of poor knowledge of the Christian faith that affect their decision to convert.

Regarding what Alexius: posted:

Well, I guess that just goes to show that ‘woman’ is the weaker gender (i.e. Eve)… (DISCLAIMER: JUST A JOKE; I AM NOT AGAINST WOMEN!).

I think men and women have their own strengths and weaknesses.

God created us men and women differently because each of us has a purpose. I don’t think that one gender is better than the other as we are meant to compliment each other. So, to me, there is no weaker or stronger gender.

Some say women tend to think with their hearts and men with their mind. I think that means we women tend to be more emotional and sensitive while men tend to be more analytical in their thoughts.

For some women, being emotional and sensitive may be a strength and a weakness at the same time. For one, it can make us good, if not better **nurturers **( I’m a woman so I say that—but others may have a different opinion).

On the other hand, it can make us have a “soft heart” for people we love, which can be good or bad depending on the situation. Example: Some women would sacrifice a lot for love of her family or loved one…and for some, sacrificing includes giving up their faith.

Regarding what **gam197 **said:

Also my daughter likes romance. In Saint Teresa of Avila book “Way to Perfection”, one of the things that she speaks against is romance novels. In the sixteen century, they were a big item; her mother read them and she cautions all not to read them.Hollywood lives on romance.

I think romance novels started when we were kids when we grew up with the stories of Snow White, Cinderella and the other princesses who married a prince and lived happily ever after. The romance novels and movies are but grown-up versions of these stories that sometimes foster the “Shayk of Arabi” syndrome of Rodrigo Bivar.

A significant number of women convert after marrying a Muslim man.

The differences in cultures does make a person stand out from the rest. Its so easy to get attracted to a person, especially if you are shown goodness and kindness.

Though, it is good to believe in love and romance as it does add spice to life. For me, no romance tale that can be lived out can ever outshine the love Jesus gave to us.

Its good to give up some things for love… but not, I think, one’s faith.

Women, should be helped to understand and value their Catholic faith more, because it is the only way they can stand firm on their beliefs.

I think , lumendelumine said it very well:

In fact, I would see such conversions as a clarion call for us Christians/Catholics: we have to show women and men their true purpose, their true roles in life - with the examples of Christ, the BVM and all the saints

 

[Montalban]

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As a catholic, I was taught it was a sin to not submit. Maybe it is about being teated as sex object but initially the women are treated with a great deal of respect and they think they have met a different type of man. Things do change once married.

Certainly Paul says that men are rulers of their hoses, but I’m not aware of where he says women are cursed for not giving their husbands sex, no matter when he wants it.

 

[gam197]

originally posted by** Montalban**
Certainly Paul says that men are rulers of their hoses, but I’m not aware of where he says women are cursed for not giving their husbands sex, no matter when he wants it.

The church has taught submission and the marriage vows use this word. The church taught this at one time that not to be submissive in all things was a sin and even said outright to the girls that it was sin. I didn’t take it badly and don’t think that this teaching is wrong myself because I understood that the church’s teaching is a teaching of love. The feminists have taken the word and made into a bad thing. We are not talking about being subservient.

It is just that being submissive is a tough thing to follow so many women fail. Does that mean that a husband can then take another wife so he doesn’t have to deal with the issue. No. I was surprise when I saw the movie, “The Last Emperor” that the Chinese Emperor had two wives( a wife and consortium) and I wonder if this tradition is common in many other cultures.The Kings often had mistresses. It is a religious doctrine of the Mormon and the Muslims.