Mormon Church Enters Calif. Gay Marriage Fight

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A letter sent to Mormon bishops and signed by church president Thomas S. Monson and his two top counselors calls on Mormons to donate “means and time” to the ballot measure. A note on the letter dated June 20 says it should be read during church services on June 29, but the letter was published Saturday on several Web sites.
 
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A letter sent to Mormon bishops and signed by church president Thomas S. Monson and his two top counselors calls on Mormons to donate “means and time” to the ballot measure. A note on the letter dated June 20 says it should be read during church services on June 29, but the letter was published Saturday on several Web sites.
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a worthy goal. good job
 
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A letter sent to Mormon bishops and signed by church president Thomas S. Monson and his two top counselors calls on Mormons to donate “means and time” to the ballot measure. A note on the letter dated June 20 says it should be read during church services on June 29, but the letter was published Saturday on several Web sites.
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I hope everyone gets together in California to defeat gay marriage. I understand it is going to be a tougher fight than the last vote in California which the judges ignored.
 
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I hope everyone gets together in California to defeat gay marriage. I understand it is going to be a tougher fight than the last vote in California which the judges ignored.
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That’s for sure. We’re going to be swamped with TV ads appealing to emotion instead of common sense. We’re going to be told we have no right to dissolve marriages that already exist.

I live in California. How nice to know my previous vote against gay marriage meant absolutely nothing. How nice to know my beautiful, incredible daughters are nothing more than a “side effect” of my marriage (because marriage isn’t about having kids, don’t you know).

Other states should amend their constitutions *now *before they get into the same pickle California is in.

Kudos to the Mormons for having the backbone to stand up against this.
 
Kay_Cee said:
That’s for sure. We’re going to be swamped with TV ads appealing to emotion instead of common sense. We’re going to be told we have no right to dissolve marriages that already exist.

I live in California. How nice to know my previous vote against gay marriage meant absolutely nothing. How nice to know my beautiful, incredible daughters are nothing more than a “side effect” of my marriage (because marriage isn’t about having kids, don’t you know).

Other states should amend their constitutions *now *before they get into the same pickle California is in.

Kudos to the Mormons for having the backbone to stand up against this.
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It won’t make any difference if other states amend their constitution. The constitution requires other states to recognize these contracts. The only reason it was not a problem in Massachusetts is because Massachusetts law does not allow a marriage to be performed for an out-of-state couple unless it is in compliance with their state of origin. California has no such limitation so people from all over the country can go to California, get married according to the laws of the state of California and demand that it be recognized wherever they actually live. I am not sure the Defense of Marriage Act will survive the U.S. Supreme Court if it is actually tested. The flood gates are going to be opened if California voters don’t overturn gay marriage. There already is a question as to whether out-of-state gay marriages in California must be recognized in Indiana.
 
The way I look at it, people join religions and/or organizations of ANY sort because they agree with the philosophies, goals, or teachings of those religions or organizations. Why would they want to be members otherwise?

I truly believe that if you want to try to understand others, you really have to imagine yourself in their shoes, however.

That means that while I truly empathize with Mormon gays, understanding that it would be as difficult for a gay to be “forced” to sleep with and pretend love with someone of the opposite sex (if they wanted marriage) as it would be for a heterosexual to be forced to sleep with and pretend love with a member of the same sex, surely gays can also understand that this isn’t designed to be hateful but is actually a really tough predicament for many churches according to the ways the bible has been interpreted since the days of old.

Maybe it’s time for gays to form their own religious organizations?
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foxnews.com/story/0,2933,370582,00.html

A letter sent to Mormon bishops and signed by church president Thomas S. Monson and his two top counselors calls on Mormons to donate “means and time” to the ballot measure. A note on the letter dated June 20 says it should be read during church services on June 29, but the letter was published Saturday on several Web sites.
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Does anyone notice that this issue is never going to go away. Talk about Progressive. 15 years ago, this never even was considered a topic to discuss. Now argueing the issue is a common thing. Its just a matter of time until it becomes the norm and Progressives will move onto the next issue. People marrying as groups or people legally marrying animals. Its never ending. Drives me crazy.

Marriage has always been defined as a man and woman. It always will be and nobody can ever change that law.
 
To me, it’s not an issue of right or wrong. Anyone who thinks it’s okay does not understand the scripture. I know the Old Testament is not considered to be a good guide anymore but in Leviticus, the punishment for homosexual acts was death. And there’s passage after passage after passage in the New Testament too, let there be no doubt. I don’t think this is even open to discussion. Even among its supporters.

The thing that is interesting to me is that the church thinks that this is an issue worth supporting publicly. It’s always a risk when a church becomes politically active because it endangers its tax-exempt status. See the header to each discussion forum and there is always one banned topic–political candidates. If a church cross the line, it is considered an advocacy group and as such might subject to taxation.

Now there are some churches which have recently appeared in the news that are overwhelming partisan and even will adocate certain candidates. But they are taking a big risk.

Still, a church is an adocate for Christ and his teachings. So why muzzle them?
 
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