Mormon Doctrine that has changed

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TruthLiving said:
Official LDS church is the scriptures, including the Book of Mormon, general conference, other official publications.
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Dont forget the Pearl of Great Price!!

More specifically the Book of Abraham!

Classic example of Mormonism. šŸ˜ƒ
 
Marie5890 said:
lds.org/library/display/0,4945,104-1-3-4,00.html

Official LDS website, thus THE credible and official source

ā€™ I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: ā€œthey draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.ā€ ā€™
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So, finally a official source -

So my friends are now to deny what the Holy Ghost has confirmed to them and run to Catholicism, is that your contention??
 
This is just my opinion but, I would love to see former Mormons put that in their signature line.

Then when a non-LDS, just having friends who are Mormons, comes into the fourms they would see how many of you are here.

Actually I would also love to hear how you all became Catholic. I have gone to ex-mormon sites and so many have become agnostic or atheist. How very sad.

Just a thought.
 
Miriam1947 said:
Yes, yes!
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Not going to happen.

They have recognized and known for a long time what I see here on the forums and have learned for myself ā€” those interested on new prospects for RCIA at the closest parish to them need to dismiss what they have believed.

Again, not going to happen.
 
TruthLiving said:
Not going to happen.

They have recognized and known for a long time what I see here on the forums and have learned for myself ā€” those interested on new prospects for RCIA at the closest parish to them need to dismiss what they have believed.

Again, not going to happen.
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Huh? My yes was about popcorn. Duh?
 
Miriam1947 said:
This is just my opinion but, I would love to see former Mormons put that in their signature line.

Then when a non-LDS, just having friends who are Mormons, comes into the fourms they would see how many of you are here.

Actually I would also love to hear how you all became Catholic. I have gone to ex-mormon sites and so many have become agnostic or atheist. How very sad.

Just a thought.
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Well itā€™s getting to late for me to post my entire story, but I remember sitting in sacrament meeting and listening to one of the talks and telling myself,

ā€œYou know Marie, you really dont believe this anymore. This whole need for temples and being ā€œsealedā€ to be a family forever. Godā€™s love is far more powerful than the LDS priesthoodā€

It was the beginning of the end for me in my Mormon journey.

Yes, many former Mormons do become very angry and end up agnostic or atheistic.
For most of them itā€™s because of how their leaving Mormonism was a major trauma because of family. Many have been disowned and disrespected.

But itā€™s never the reason they leave. They leave because they end up researching, real research, into the LDS churchā€™s history, its doctrines and all the changes it has gone thru since JSmithā€™s time. They research and find the Masonic ties to the temple ceremony. Etc etc.

The list is long. Very long.

I fortunately never had a problem leaving or resigning. It was quick, easy and anti-climatic. But I was one of the few.

JPII death was a gift of great grace for me. Down right spiritually miraculous. It would be a couple of years before I came into full communion with the Church

(I was baptized Catholic as an infant but not raisedā€¦I swear my baptism and the patron saint of my ancestral parish always held on to me, even thru my Mormon years. I am so grateful for their attentiveness and intercession)
 
TruthLiving said:
Official LDS church is the scriptures, including the Book of Mormon, general conference, other official publications.

So what officially has the church taught that you do not like or conflicts with your life?
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Well, there was that whole birth control thing. And the abortion thing. Two items, by the way, that are in direct conflict with the teachings of the LDS church. Or at least with LDS.org ā€“ which may or may not be the teachings of the LDS church.

Also remarriage if spouse is still alive (which agrees with what Jesus taught, not what modern churches teach).

I will admit I never disagreed with the idea that priests should be celibate or in the Real Presence of Christ, or in Original Sin.
 
Marie5890 said:
Well itā€™s getting to late for me to post my entire story, but I remember sitting in sacrament meeting and listening to one of the talks and telling myself,

ā€œYou know Marie, you really dont believe this anymore. This whole need for temples and being ā€œsealedā€ to be a family forever. Godā€™s love is far more powerful than the LDS priesthoodā€

It was the beginning of the end for me in my Mormon journey.

Good for you.

Yes, many former Mormons do become very angry and end up agnostic or atheistic.
For most of them itā€™s because of how their leaving Mormonism was a major trauma because of family. Many have been disowned and disrespected.

But itā€™s never the reason they leave. They leave because they end up researching, real research, into the LDS churchā€™s history, its doctrines and all the changes it has gone thru since JSmithā€™s time. They research and find the Masonic ties to the temple ceremony. Etc etc.

It is so sad that so many seem to have no faith at all. As if God no longer exists.

The list is long. Very long.

I fortunately never had a problem leaving or resigning. It was quick, easy and anti-climatic. But I was one of the few.

JPII death was a gift of great grace for me. Down right spiritually miraculous. It would be a couple of years before I came into full communion with the Church

(I was baptized Catholic as an infant but not raisedā€¦I swear my baptism and the patron saint of my ancestral parish always held on to me, even thru my Mormon years. I am so grateful for their attentiveness and intercession)
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I remember watching John Paul IIā€™s funeral. I was not Catholic at the time. At the end of the funeral the Gospel which had been laid open on top of his coffin with the pages fluttering throughout, suddenly at the end of the service, I swear to you, the book closed. I still get chills.

I became a Catholic 3 years later and I am so thankful to God for Pope Benedict XVI.
 
Marie5890 said:
Well itā€™s getting to late for me to post my entire story, but I remember sitting in sacrament meeting and listening to one of the talks and telling myself,

ā€œYou know Marie, you really dont believe this anymore. This whole need for temples and being ā€œsealedā€ to be a family forever. Godā€™s love is far more powerful than the LDS priesthoodā€

It was the beginning of the end for me in my Mormon journey.

Yes, many former Mormons do become very angry and end up agnostic or atheistic.
For most of them itā€™s because of how their leaving Mormonism was a major trauma because of family. Many have been disowned and disrespected.

But itā€™s never the reason they leave. They leave because they end up researching, real research, into the LDS churchā€™s history, its doctrines and all the changes it has gone thru since JSmithā€™s time. They research and find the Masonic ties to the temple ceremony. Etc etc.

The list is long. Very long.

I fortunately never had a problem leaving or resigning. It was quick, easy and anti-climatic. But I was one of the few.

JPII death was a gift of great grace for me. Down right spiritually miraculous. It would be a couple of years before I came into full communion with the Church

(I was baptized Catholic as an infant but not raisedā€¦I swear my baptism and the patron saint of my ancestral parish always held on to me, even thru my Mormon years. I am so grateful for their attentiveness and intercession)
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Your example is good one ā€” choosing to be exposed to the things about the history or doctrine of the church and then trying to tell people like me that this is why I should dismiss the LDS church, prepare for RCIA in September (or go now despite it being in process since last fall), be baptized a Catholic and live happily ever after.

Is not going to happen ever.
 
TruthLiving said:
I asked what they could tell me ā€” remember goes on in the temple is sacred versus what I have heard from others, that is secret which is incorrect.
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seĀ·cret /Ėˆsēkrit/
Adjective:
Not known or seen or not meant to be known or seen by others: ā€œa secret planā€.
Noun:
Something that is kept or meant to be kept unknown or unseen by others: ā€œa state secretā€.
Synonyms:
adjective. hidden - occult - privy - private - clandestine
noun. mystery - secrecy - arcanum - confidence
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Of course what goes on in the LDS temple is secret. That these things are held sacred by LDS members does not alter the fact that they are kept secret.
 
Jerusha said:
That is your choice. And we have made our own choices.
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Those I know have peace. They pray for lot of things, particularly that former Mormons or those who have never been members who have a agenda to dismiss their faith or better yet destroy the church, if they could.
 
Perhaps if LDS were better at policing themselves there might be less hostility here. Somehow judgmental attitudes, racism, sexism, gossip-- you know those ā€œminor sinsā€ are discounted among LDS, particularly when the victims are non-LDS or ex-LDS.
 
You know, I kind of hate to waste this on a thread so deep, but ā€¦

Do all you ex-Mos remember those old school Book of Remembrances with the covers that looked like this?

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-S2DyYbGq3IA/TzyIt9znprI/AAAAAAAAAEk/OrPEcMyOL6c/s800/SCAN0003.JPG

After hearing all the talk about how the LDS church ā€œneverā€ preached about the Catholic church being, you know, bad, I had to go and scan a copy of one of the pages of my book. This book was sold in church bookstores all over the country when I was young. It had all kinds of nifty graphics, like the Plan of Salvation:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--mzkePWnSfY/TzyI1xL0UjI/AAAAAAAAAFM/DjVTZ3PsvyI/s800/SCAN0002.JPG

And this nifty one about the Papal crown. Now, in their defense,this was not ā€œofficialā€ canonical doctrine in the scriptures and even the caption says ā€œAn Adventistā€ came up with it. But it was sold at Church bookstores with the permission of the LDS church, with licensed images and intellectual property. They knew about it. And they let it be published anyway.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-aNjDC3GCXCE/TzyIvtb_q4I/AAAAAAAAAEs/IkbBiW45HGI/s720/SCAN0001.JPG

So tell me again how the LDS church never preached how the Catholic church was the ā€œGreat and Abominableā€ church?
 
HonoraDominum said:
You know, I kind of hate to waste this on a thread so deep, but ā€¦

Do all you ex-Mos remember those old school Book of Remembrances with the covers that looked like this?

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After hearing all the talk about how the LDS church ā€œneverā€ preached about the Catholic church being, you know, bad, I had to go and scan a copy of one of the pages of my book. This book was sold in church bookstores all over the country when I was young. It had all kinds of nifty graphics, like the Plan of Salvation:

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And this nifty one about the Papal crown. Now, in their defense,this was not ā€œofficialā€ canonical doctrine in the scriptures and even the caption says ā€œAn Adventistā€ came up with it. But it was sold at Church bookstores with the permission of the LDS church, with licensed images and intellectual property. They knew about it. And they let it be published anyway.

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So tell me again how the LDS church never preached how the Catholic church was the ā€œGreat and Abominableā€ church?
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WOW. I have one of those books stashed in a box somewhere. Havenā€™t looked at it for a decade or two. I cringe to think what I put in there.
 
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