Mormon Jesus in Utah?

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I am an RCIA table leader and the subject of mormons came up at my table and one of the girls in my group said some mormons came to her door, and they were telling her a lot of bizarre things, the strangest of which they said that Jesus was here on earth in person, human form, living in Utah and making prophecies. This is unlike anything any mormon has ever told me before. I wonder if this is some sort of fringe group of the mormon faith. Has anyone ever heard this before?
 
I seem to remember a fringe group that believes that…can’t recall really.

The Three Nephites and John the Apostle are believed to still be present in this world…they asked to stay until the second coming.
 
lol the recession must be hitting utah really hard. Such idle fancies some people have.
 
CompSciGuy said:
I am an RCIA table leader and the subject of mormons came up at my table and one of the girls in my group said some mormons came to her door, and they were telling her a lot of bizarre things, the strangest of which they said that Jesus was here on earth in person, human form, living in Utah and making prophecies. This is unlike anything any mormon has ever told me before. I wonder if this is some sort of fringe group of the mormon faith. Has anyone ever heard this before?
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Could the claim be tested genetically against the bloodstains on the shroud of Turin, or against the blessed wine of the Eucharist? This still could settle the question of whether Mormons worship the same Jesus as other Christians.
 
Stephen168 said:
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Well, since communion wine becomes the Lord’s literal blood, it will perfectly match the DNA of the blood on the shroud of Turin, don’t you agree?

So if the Mormon Jesus has different DNA, then he’s a different Jesus, right?

But if he matched, then would you claim that the devil had power to imitate the Lord’s DNA?
 
smirknoff said:
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Could the claim be tested genetically against the bloodstains on the shroud of Turin, or against the blessed wine of the Eucharist? This still could settle the question of whether Mormons worship the same Jesus as other Christians.
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To compare two things, you need a sample from each.
smirknoff said:
Forensic DNA test, obviously.
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True, but what I’ve been asking is WHERE do you get DNA from the Mormon Jesus.
 
Ahimsa said:
No. The term is transubstantiation. The wine does not physically become blood cells and plasma.
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Exactly so. And the Turin Shroud is an irrelevance, as Catholics aren’t obliged to believe in it. The marks on the shroud may or may not be the blood of Jesus. Catholics aren’t obliged to believe they are, or even that the marks are blood at all. We can believe that they are paint of some kind if we want.
 
Ahimsa said:
No. The term is transubstantiation. The wine does not physically become blood cells and plasma.
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Tell that to those on this forum that say that Jesus’ DNA, and Mary’s, flows through us after we partake of the Eucharist.
Stephen168 said:
To compare two things, you need a sample from each.

True, but what I’ve been asking is WHERE do you get DNA from the Mormon Jesus.
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Where? In Utah, according to this thread title. An RCIA table leader says he’s there, so it must be true, right? If we can’t trust RCIA table leaders and rumors we hear at the table to tell us what Mormons believe, what are we supposed to do, trust Mormons to tell us what they believe? Ha.
 
paperwight66 said:
Exactly so. And the Turin Shroud is an irrelevance, as Catholics aren’t obliged to believe in it. The marks on the shroud may or may not be the blood of Jesus. Catholics aren’t obliged to believe they are, or even that the marks are blood at all. We can believe that they are paint of some kind if we want.
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Now that’s a concept. You mean some Catholics believe one thing and some believe another? Is it possible that some Mormons might believe one thing and some believe anothother, where their church authorities do not announce a final answer?
 
CompSciGuy said:
I am an RCIA table leader and the subject of mormons came up at my table and one of the girls in my group said some mormons came to her door, and they were telling her a lot of bizarre things, the strangest of which they said that Jesus was here on earth in person, human form, living in Utah and making prophecies. This is unlike anything any mormon has ever told me before. I wonder if this is some sort of fringe group of the mormon faith. Has anyone ever heard this before?
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Well the Mormons do believe that after certain Jews fled Palestine to inhabit the Americas, that the resurrected Jesus Christ appeared to them to preach the good news, and presumably also give prophecy.

But what I don’t understand is that if Jesus in Acts ascended to heaven, and the implication was he would return when it was time for judgment, then why would he suddenly just appear in the Americas?
 
smirknoff said:
Where? In Utah, according to this thread title. An RCIA table leader says he’s there, so it must be true, right?
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No, the RCIA table leader did NOT say Christ was in Utah. You have nothing.
smirknoff said:
,Could the claim be tested genetically against the bloodstains on the shroud of Turin, or against the blessed wine of the Eucharist? This still could settle the question of whether Mormons worship the same Jesus as other Christians.
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To Summarize: Your smart alec post is based on your complete ignorance of catholic teaching, reason, and reading comprehension.
 
FabiusMaximus said:
Well the Mormons do believe that after certain Jews fled Palestine to inhabit the Americas, that the resurrected Jesus Christ appeared to them to preach the good news, and presumably also give prophecy.

But what I don’t understand is that if Jesus in Acts ascended to heaven, and the implication was he would return when it was time for judgment, then why would he suddenly just appear in the Americas?
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Easy. The appearance in America could have been a promised visit to "other sheep who are not of this fold, ie to the old world fold. The visit to America would thus not be a “return.”
 
Nice words. do you apply them to catholics as well or just to strangers?
Stephen168 said:
No, the RCIA table leader did NOT say Christ was in Utah. You have nothing.

To Summarize: Your smart alec post is based on your complete ignorance of catholic teaching, reason, and reading comprehension.
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Is the title of this thread “Mormon Jesus in Utah” or is it not?

Are you going to correct my purported ignorance in Catholic doctrine, or will you just continue to bask in your sense of smug superiority?
 
smirknoff said:
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Originally Posted by Stephen168 View Post
No, the RCIA table leader did NOT say Christ was in Utah. You have nothing.

To Summarize: Your smart alec post is based on your complete ignorance of catholic teaching, reason, and reading comprehension.​

Is the title of this thread “Mormon Jesus in Utah” or is it not?
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Originally Posted by CompSciGuy
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I am an RCIA table leader and the subject of mormons came up at my table and*** one of the girls in my group said some mormons came to her door, and they were telling her a lot of bizarre things***, the strangest of which they said that Jesus was here on earth in person, human form, living in Utah and making prophecies. This is unlike anything any mormon has ever told me before. I wonder if this is some sort of fringe group of the mormon faith. Has anyone ever heard this before?
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Not the RCIA leader. The mormons told the girl. The girl told the RCIA leader (me). I asked on this forum in case any mormons would care to explain if this is real mormon teaching or not.
 
smirknoff said:
Is the title of this thread “Mormon Jesus in Utah” or is it not?
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It is not. You have again shown a lack of reading comprehension. In the English language the ‘?’ symbol is used to ask a question not make a statement. So again: your smart alec post is based on your complete ignorance of catholic teaching, reason, and reading comprehension.
smirknoff said:
Are you going to correct my purported ignorance in Catholic doctrine, or will you just continue to bask in your sense of smug superiority?
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I’ll bask in my smug superiority due to the fact you have already been corrected and have not been unable to understand it.

You might try answering the OP’s question.
 
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