Mormon/LDS and Divorce

[dianaiad]

Nope. All true. All my claims can be backed up. I’m sure all of my personal claims have been experienced by other ex-LDS also.

Nothing wrong with meeting a guy and agreeing to being married in a few weeks. It’s a free country. And I’m not 100% certain on this, but I’m going to safely assume she’s getting married so quickly just because she’s had that same message jammed down her throat Sunday after Sunday and has the urge to fit in with the rest of the LDS women - married and go to the temple and praise God, Jesus and Joseph Smith.

I can safely assume this because I met a girl on a dating site and got her number. I did not tell her I was LDS but I did tell her I was looking for a new church.
A few days later she gave my email to her friend (the older LDS woman) and she emailed me saying she was interested in my profile. She brought up churches and said “I heard you are looking for a new church. You should try out the LDS church some time. I’m not trying to convert you but it’s a really nice church!”

I figured after reading that “I’m not trying to convert you” statement she really wanted me to join the church and get married. Reading about her new boyfriend and future marriage after only two weeks only reconfirms my belief and tells me I am right. Still, that’s OK. It’s a free country.

I’ve told her about the church’s past and she clearly said she does not care or even pays attention to the past even though she aware of the bad past. Well, at least she’s honest with that.

You remind me of someone…you have for quite awhile now, actually. Do you know, or, perhaps ARE you, Derrick Evanson?

 

[TikiTokiguy]

You remind me of someone…you have for quite awhile now, actually. Do you know, or, perhaps ARE you, Derrick Evanson?

No, but you can find my name in on one of the Ensign magazines in the last few years.

I will say the woman took off the post on her facebook back about marriage. She never made the post, it was one of her nieces saying “I can’t believe you are getting married.” I never seen a post from the woman confirming it. So I might, maybe, have jumped the gun on that, perhaps.

I read on another board that Utah leads the country in average on 4 plus divorces per person. I mean, they have the most people that’s been married four or more times.

 

[dianaiad]

No, but you can find my name in on one of the Ensign magazines in the last few years.

I will say the woman took off the post on her facebook back about marriage. She never made the post, it was one of her nieces saying “I can’t believe you are getting married.” I never seen a post from the woman confirming it. So I might, maybe, have jumped the gun on that, perhaps.

I read on another board that Utah leads the country in average on 4 plus divorces per person. I mean, they have the most people that’s been married four or more times.

“you read on another board…”

Please provide the reference for this? I can’t find anything on the 'net, or in the usual places that measure such things, any data on this.

Frankly, I rather doubt that this is true, but hey…I suppose it could be. After all, we DO believe in marriage and live in constant hope; other people, after divorce #2, might well give up and shack up.

(shrug)

I still want the reference, if you don’t mind.

 

[TikiTokiguy]

I cannot get the sealing canceled unless he agrees…point blank…while I’m alive it’s a moot point, I am Catholic…when I die it will also for me be a non factor, I am Catholic, I live by the teachings of the RC so I know where I will then…
stormy

So she point blank says she can’t get the sealing canceled unless he agrees. My friend in the church can’t get sealed to her new husband because one of her ex-husbands will not cancel the sealing to her.

And I see this on the exmormon site -

• A Mormon woman who is divorced or has her spouse die is not allowed to marry another spouse in their eternal marriage ceremony. They may marry for time only, but not eternity, which is a big distinction for Mormons. However, if a man finds himself in the same situation, he can remarry as many times as he wants and all of those women will be “sealed” (married) to him for eternity, according to Mormon beliefs. Additionally, I sat through many of these temple ordinances where I was sealed (married) by proxy for my polygamist ancestors who had not made it to the temple. I personally had my male ancestors sealed to many (17 in one case) wives. This is why they do genealogy. Don’t be fooled. It’s all to do proxy ordinances for the dead. They believe polygamy will continue in heaven and only gave it up because they were finally cornered enough to say they would. It went on for years afterward though in Utah, as I could prove through my ancestors’ journal accounts. You can also research this and all of the above yourself and find that I am speaking the truth, not dogma. You won’t find many of these journal accounts though because the Mormon church leaders asked all members to turn them over to the church. They then attempt to re-write history according to their liking. Many of us exmormons were members of their church long enough ago that we know differently.

mormoncurtain.com/

 

[zerinus]

zerinus, i only said lack of clarity leads to rumor and misinformation, but I do agree it creates an opening for ‘accusation’ by other parties.

You said “hide”. You were suggesting that the Church was trying to “hide” the process from investigators. The Church isn’t trying to hide anything. It is just something that nobody thought was important enough to publish information about.

Further Information must be clarified to help squash rumors:

What kind of rumors? I don’t know of any rumors.

• can both man or woman request unsealing

I suppose they could; but they would have to have a very good reason for it for their wish to be granted.

• what are the grounds for unsealing?

The commonest grounds as far as I know is when a couple get divorced, and the woman wants to marry another LDS man, and she wants to be sealed to him for eternity in the Temple. She cannot do that unless her previous sealing to her former husband is cancelled. A comparable situation doesn’t exist for the man, because a man can be sealed for eternity to more than one woman at the same time. So if the husband wanted to remarry and be sealed to his second wife for eternity in the temple, the sealing of his previous marriage need not be cancelled to enable him to do that.

• etc.

What etc.?

Catholic annulment is also a very difficult process yet it is very easy to find details on the procedure and grounds to justify.

Perhaps that is because the Catholic Church has been around longer, therefore more information is available about it than there is about the LDS Church.