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tarboy
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What does it matter who did the creative work?
Each church owns their final product / advertisement
Sounds like a big “chip on shoulder”
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Each church owns their final product / advertisement
Sounds like a big “chip on shoulder”
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RebeccaJ
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Welcome to my ignore list.
Stephen168
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Who puts out the “Coming Home” commercials? Who puts out the Mormon commercials? Who is the target audience?
Where is that located in Catholic Church?
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Pepband_Mom
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Marie: reminds me of something called it a “burning in my bosom” that the “church is true”?
My anatomy & physio prof in college said: Trust the evidence of your senses.
If it looks like a horse, runs like a horse, whinnies like a horse it’s a horse… LDS are hoping to appeal to what is lacking in one’s life. Problem is people accept it on the surface. This wholesome, squeaky clean image is so very appealing. Golly, every Sunday the ladies wear dresses & the men suits & WOW don’t they look GOOD! They get their kids, spouse, other’s into it & find out what the temple ceremonies are really like or dig deep into LDS history & get the “rest of the story”…
My husband’s college degree is in marketing - the scientific & psychological part of it is amazing. it’s a HUGE and at times extremely effective industry.
The warm fuzzies sell indeed. Big difference buying into a candy bar vs. a false prophet.
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SteveVH
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Is the LDS marketing firm a “non-prophet” organization, like the church? Sorry, couldn’t resist.
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RebeccaJ
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It’s for-profit, under the DMC umbrella.
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Pepband_Mom
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aagghhhh!
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tarboy
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Hey, I just call it like I see it
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tarboy
Guest
Sorry, but I wasn’t on the creative review team for either set of commercials.
If you are trying to make a point Stephen, spit it out.
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Porknpie
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Rebecca, what are your thoughts?
One church is completely transparent on beliefs and practices for newcomers…look at RCIA as an example.
The second is not. Missionaries and commercials target emotions and when beliefs and practices are discussed they are made to sound like mainstream Christianity. However, the very bizarre beliefs are presented only after one becomes a convert. Together, their commercials and initiation process are deceptive.
Stephen168
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I was wondering if your comments were based in fact or emotion. If they were based on facts, you would have answered my questions. Your “calling them” seems to be more of a tantrum than an exchange of information. Atleast you admit you have no real insight to share with us.
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RebeccaJ
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I think for the most part people are baptized Mormon based on emotion, like being convinced to buy a new car for more money than you intend. A lot of people have “buyer’s remorse” after such a purchase. The interesting thing about buyer’s remorse, is that the psychological reaction can be to further justify the rash decision, out of embarrassment, humiliation, or other feelings surrounding being had. Convince yourself and others that it was a rational decision, rather than an emotional one.
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schwartzmann
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I usually wouldn’t say anything like what I’m about to say because I don’t want to offend anyone. But… I will bite the bullet here, in hopes that others may become “enlightened”. For most of my life I knew only that Mormons were “different” from other Christian sects, but I really didn’t know anything about their history, beliefs/doctrines or their church and texts. But all of that changed one fateful night, quite unexpectedly, when I watched an episode of a popular TV show on Comedy Central (I’m being serious…you’ll see).
Before I continue any further with this, I have to make a bit of a disclaimer… Not everyone finds the same things acceptable/unacceptable, and I respect that. Every culture, family and individual is tolerant and intolerant of certain things, and what may be ok for one person may not be for another. But I ask you to give this a chance… Doubtless, most of you have heard of the animated comedy TV series called “South Park”. But wait, give me a chance… don’t send me to Smithfield to burn at the stake just yet!
This TV show contains a lot of foul language and content that many Christians find downright unacceptable for their children and even themselves to watch… and I respect that. However, I am a fan of South Park… Why, you ask? Because believe it or not, it can be one of the most enlightening and, surprisingly, “moral” shows on television; through its satire and over-the-top comedy it highlights many of the problems in American (and world) society, culture, politics, entertainment, religion and tradition, and whilst being rather offensive and vulgar (to some) in its language and content it delivers – in its own weird way – a dose of morality, truth and enlightenment. Besides, we can’t “hide” from bad words and content or shelter ourselves from the world; though we can keep ourselves from being corrupted by it. In a sense, I see South Park as being part of the “Modern Enlightenment” – in parallel to the Enlightenment and Renaissance of the medieval era. It pushes the boundaries of acceptability and challenges the way we think and behave, much like the authors, satirists and philosophers of the Middle Ages did with the topics of their day (monarchism, religion, morality, etc). If you’ve never watched many episodes of the show you may think what I’m saying is absurd, but if you ever give it a chance you will see what I mean – I guarantee it. I have a great respect for Trey Parker and Matt Stone, the series creators. They are not like the “liberals” and so-called “progressive” media moguls in the media; much like me, they are true voices of libertarian dissent in the sea of “conservative” and “liberal” influence. 
That being said, I challenge you to put aside your hangups with foul language and such and watch one particular episode of South Park which pertains to Mormonism: Season 7, Episode 12, entitled “All About Mormons?”. When I first watched this episode I thought that the show was just running off on a wild tangent to poke fun of Mormonism… however, on a whim, I started doing some research. And I discovered that they were actually telling the truth! All of their jokes and satire of Mormonism are in fact rooted in the actual history and real beliefs of the religion… not some ludicrous stuff they just made up to be funny! I was so shocked that I dug deeper and deeper, and learned more about Mormonism than I ever thought I would. And what I found was rather disquieting, to say the least. I challenge you to watch this episode, however difficult it might be for you, and see for yourself. Then look up the things you see and hear in the episode, and you will see for yourself that it is in fact true.
How to watch:
I won’t post a direct link to the show on religious forums. However, you can watch it in one of two ways. If you have Netflix, simply look up “South Park” and find Season 7, Episode 12. If you do not have Netflix, simply do a Google search for “South Park All About Mormons”. The very first result should be what you’re looking for (the official South Park Studios website which hosts the episode for free). And there is also a third way… you could search the episode on Youtube and watch it in parts, though its much easier and faster to just use Netflix or southparkstudios.com.
Watch, learn, research, discuss…
P.S. – After I watched this episode and did some research on Mormonism I searched some Mormon forums to see what reaction Mormons had to this episode. Unsurprisingly, a very large number of Mormon viewers soon left the Mormon church!
Before I continue any further with this, I have to make a bit of a disclaimer… Not everyone finds the same things acceptable/unacceptable, and I respect that. Every culture, family and individual is tolerant and intolerant of certain things, and what may be ok for one person may not be for another. But I ask you to give this a chance… Doubtless, most of you have heard of the animated comedy TV series called “South Park”. But wait, give me a chance… don’t send me to Smithfield to burn at the stake just yet!
This TV show contains a lot of foul language and content that many Christians find downright unacceptable for their children and even themselves to watch… and I respect that. However, I am a fan of South Park… Why, you ask? Because believe it or not, it can be one of the most enlightening and, surprisingly, “moral” shows on television; through its satire and over-the-top comedy it highlights many of the problems in American (and world) society, culture, politics, entertainment, religion and tradition, and whilst being rather offensive and vulgar (to some) in its language and content it delivers – in its own weird way – a dose of morality, truth and enlightenment. Besides, we can’t “hide” from bad words and content or shelter ourselves from the world; though we can keep ourselves from being corrupted by it. In a sense, I see South Park as being part of the “Modern Enlightenment” – in parallel to the Enlightenment and Renaissance of the medieval era. It pushes the boundaries of acceptability and challenges the way we think and behave, much like the authors, satirists and philosophers of the Middle Ages did with the topics of their day (monarchism, religion, morality, etc). If you’ve never watched many episodes of the show you may think what I’m saying is absurd, but if you ever give it a chance you will see what I mean – I guarantee it. I have a great respect for Trey Parker and Matt Stone, the series creators. They are not like the “liberals” and so-called “progressive” media moguls in the media; much like me, they are true voices of libertarian dissent in the sea of “conservative” and “liberal” influence. That being said, I challenge you to put aside your hangups with foul language and such and watch one particular episode of South Park which pertains to Mormonism: Season 7, Episode 12, entitled “All About Mormons?”. When I first watched this episode I thought that the show was just running off on a wild tangent to poke fun of Mormonism… however, on a whim, I started doing some research. And I discovered that they were actually telling the truth! All of their jokes and satire of Mormonism are in fact rooted in the actual history and real beliefs of the religion… not some ludicrous stuff they just made up to be funny! I was so shocked that I dug deeper and deeper, and learned more about Mormonism than I ever thought I would. And what I found was rather disquieting, to say the least. I challenge you to watch this episode, however difficult it might be for you, and see for yourself. Then look up the things you see and hear in the episode, and you will see for yourself that it is in fact true.
How to watch:
I won’t post a direct link to the show on religious forums. However, you can watch it in one of two ways. If you have Netflix, simply look up “South Park” and find Season 7, Episode 12. If you do not have Netflix, simply do a Google search for “South Park All About Mormons”. The very first result should be what you’re looking for (the official South Park Studios website which hosts the episode for free). And there is also a third way… you could search the episode on Youtube and watch it in parts, though its much easier and faster to just use Netflix or southparkstudios.com.
Watch, learn, research, discuss…
P.S. – After I watched this episode and did some research on Mormonism I searched some Mormon forums to see what reaction Mormons had to this episode. Unsurprisingly, a very large number of Mormon viewers soon left the Mormon church!
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Jessup
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Thank you for the information, or " testimoney" I though do love the LDS church. I never new anyone who wasn't a drunk or pot head until I met Mormons, or had any idea that there are people who want to be married who don't hate their spouse or spend there weekends ingrossed in the bars buying easy woman. ( the list goes on) I honestly wouldn't know any other Catholics if it wasn't for the internet.
For me the LDS church offers a bit of hope that the Catholic church does not. As I do not feel a warm place, intersession, or blessing from God. I don't understand how any person can chastise another man trying to make it through life the best he can in another church. I think the Catholic church has just as much wishy washy history.
Though I do love being Catholic; as silly as it sounds. I think the only reason I'm not LDS is becuase I really can't stand masons and I know the Catholic church is the only church that outlaws masons, and frats, plus one of the missionaries really tried some shady thing wtih me in 2009 taking me with my friends to the
)Cheers!
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SpeSalvi
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Unfortunately the LDS church not only allows it’s members to be Masons, the founder of the LDS church, Joseph Smith, WAS a Mason as well as many other of the original leaders. The LDS church, especially temple rituals, are VERY closely connected to masonic rituals.Thank you for the information, or " testimoney" I though do love the LDS church. I never new anyone who wasn’t a drunk or pot head until I met Mormons, or had any idea that there are people who want to be married who don’t hate their spouse or spend there weekends ingrossed in the bars buying easy woman. ( the list goes on) I honestly wouldn’t know any other Catholics if it wasn’t for the internet.
For me the LDS church offers a bit of hope that the Catholic church does not. As I do not feel a warm place, intersession, or blessing from God. I don’t understand how any person can chastise another man trying to make it through life the best he can in another church. I think the Catholic church has just as much wishy washy history.
Though I do love being Catholic; as silly as it sounds. I think the only reason I’m not LDS is becuase I really can’t stand masons and I know the Catholic church is the only church that outlaws masons, and frats, plus one of the missionaries really tried some shady thing wtih me in 2009 taking me with my friends to the
" no one ever comes here and doesn’t convert temple " by suprise. As later my good friend explained to me. As of right now, I’m the only person who has been taken there and not converted, from what I’ve been told
Cheers!
I know it’s hard when you don’t have a good circle of friends to help encourage you, but stay in the faith! I’ve been on the other side and I can promise that if it looks bleak here, it’ll look completely desolate over there. God loves you and will help you with your struggles.
When you prove your faith in God, He will prove his faithfulness to you.
Keep fighting the good fight. And hang out with us on the forums if you don’t have any decent Catholic friends in real life
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Porknpie
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Rebecca,
That’s very insightful. I’ve seen the same thing with people buying cars. In reality they made a mistake but they can’t admit it because they spent so much money.
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tarboy
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Stephen,
And I wonder if your posts are based on the emotion of hatred
You seem to portray them mormies as evil or nefarious for creating commercials. What difference does it make if they own the ad agency? (that’s a question for you)
Aside from not being Catholic, what’s wrong with their commercials? (another question for you)
Personally, they seem as harmful as a PSA reminding you to wash your hands after doing your business. I seem to recall they talked about basic Christian virtues like honesty and love of family.
I searched online but could not find who Tom Peterson hired to produce the wonderful CCH spots, and the behind the scenes video. Tell us who produced them and why it’s more important than the message? (another question for you)
Again, you keep implying you have insights that I’ve clearly missed. So share them
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Jessup
Guest
Oh I watched that years ago, I found it to be offensive and unreliable. I’ve sat through quite a few religious education classes for humanities requirements and found them to be more informal. I used to like South Park when I was younger, but I think its really a talentless show now. ( thought that was an old episode ) however it is true, where they show the new kid, who is captain of the wrestling team and held a 4.0 GPA typical Mormon, success story. Put into cartoon formI usually wouldn’t say anything like what I’m about to say because I don’t want to offend anyone. But… I will bite the bullet here, in hopes that others may become “enlightened”. For most of my life I knew only that Mormons were “different” from other Christian sects, but I really didn’t know anything about their history, beliefs/doctrines or their church and texts. But all of that changed one fateful night, quite unexpectedly, when I watched an episode of a popular TV show on Comedy Central (I’m being serious…you’ll see).
Before I continue any further with this, I have to make a bit of a disclaimer… Not everyone finds the same things acceptable/unacceptable, and I respect that. Every culture, family and individual is tolerant and intolerant of certain things, and what may be ok for one person may not be for another. But I ask you to give this a chance… Doubtless, most of you have heard of the animated comedy TV series called “South Park”. But wait, give me a chance… don’t send me to Smithfield to burn at the stake just yet!
That being said, I challenge you to put aside your hangups with foul language and such and watch one particular episode of South Park which pertains to Mormonism: Season 7, Episode 12, entitled “All About Mormons?”. When I first watched this episode I thought that the show was just running off on a wild tangent to poke fun of Mormonism… however, on a whim, I started doing some research. And I discovered that they were actually telling the truth! All of their jokes and satire of Mormonism are in fact rooted in the actual history and real beliefs of the religion… not some ludicrous stuff they just made up to be funny! I was so shocked that I dug deeper and deeper, and learned more about Mormonism than I ever thought I would. And what I found was rather disquieting, to say the least. I challenge you to watch this episode, however difficult it might be for you, and see for yourself. Then look up the things you see and hear in the episode, and you will see for yourself that it is in fact true.
How to watch:
I won’t post a direct link to the show on religious forums. However, you can watch it in one of two ways. If you have Netflix, simply look up “South Park” and find Season 7, Episode 12. If you do not have Netflix, simply do a Google search for “South Park All About Mormons”. The very first result should be what you’re looking for (the official South Park Studios website which hosts the episode for free). And there is also a third way… you could search the episode on Youtube and watch it in parts, though its much easier and faster to just use Netflix or southparkstudios.com.
Watch, learn, research, discuss…
P.S. – After I watched this episode and did some research on Mormonism I searched some Mormon forums to see what reaction Mormons had to this episode. Unsurprisingly, a very large number of Mormon viewers soon left the Mormon church!
Stephen168
New member
No, they are based on curiousity
Is that a common pejorative for Mormons?
No insight on my part. You still haven’t answered my questions.
Are you saying that Tom Peterson is the Catholic Church?
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TexanKnight
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Tar, I have never seen a more LDS Catholic in my life than you. I wonder why you claim to be Catholic yet have far more pro_LDS posts…
I would hate to think you are misleading us
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