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4boysMom
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What is “spooky” is an LDS baptism and funeral. I have been inside the Mormon churches in the past, and I will never return.
As far as the Bible is concerned…read Revelations 22: 18-19
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As far as the Bible is concerned…read Revelations 22: 18-19
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isaac.madsen
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That just seems to be saying that if a man changes or adds to the book, he is damned. It doesn’t say more books can’t be added. It just says don’t add to or take away from THIS one, which leads me to believe he was just saying, “Don’t try and mess God’s book up or he’ll book your mess up.”
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IanS
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What happened?
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Allweather
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The common understanding of that last part of Revelation is that it applies to the entire Bible. All orthodox Christians understand it this way. The fact that some sects, such as Mormons, understand it differently merely points to their tendency to be unorthodox, in doctrine, and in Biblical interpretations. You won’t find any Protestants adding any books to the Bible that the Catholic Church canonized way back in the day. Some of them removed a handful, for their own particular reasons. But none have added anything. Despite the heresies of Protestants, they are in full agreement with Catholics about what the Bible is, and of what it consists.
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zerinus
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isaac.madsen
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Yes, well, I don’t deny that you are providing the thoughts of mainstream Christianity, but that doesn’t mean there can’t be truth to my interpretation. It doesn’t mean I agree with the Book of Mormon or any other supposed “scripture” that is out there. I think the problem comes in “canonizing” what is and is not scripture. I don’t see any evidence that Christ said to do so. I am a free thinker and find truth in many things.
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servingHim
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I am not an expert by any means, but because I grew up in a predominatly LDS community (only 5 of my graduating class of 76 were not LDS), and having an LDS father, I have researched Morminism.
From my understanding, Mormons believe that it was the Catholic religion that defiled the gospels and created the need for a more perfect book, the BOM.
I have also heard from LDS members themselves that the Catholic Church is spoken of as evil during their meetings.
It has been my experience that when LDS question people about the Catholic religion or visit a church, sometimes they are gleaning information to report back to their church. I realize this may not always be the case.
I am not trying to degrade the mormon church in any way; afterall, my best friend, father, and most of the people who have been influencial in my life are LDS. However, I pray daily that they will see the truth!!!
From my understanding, Mormons believe that it was the Catholic religion that defiled the gospels and created the need for a more perfect book, the BOM.
I have also heard from LDS members themselves that the Catholic Church is spoken of as evil during their meetings.
It has been my experience that when LDS question people about the Catholic religion or visit a church, sometimes they are gleaning information to report back to their church. I realize this may not always be the case.
I am not trying to degrade the mormon church in any way; afterall, my best friend, father, and most of the people who have been influencial in my life are LDS. However, I pray daily that they will see the truth!!!
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Allweather
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Christ gave authority to the Church to command in His name. This surely includes the authority to determine what is, and what is not, Scripture. This authority, according to the New Testament, was delegated to the Apostles. The working out of this Apostolic authority is seen in history.
Of course, most of us are less free thinking than you may be. We need boundaries. Actually, the boundaries are built in to the creation. He “hems us in, behind and before.”
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Allweather
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That is my understanding, too. I’ve never been Mormon, but I know quite a few, and have had conversations with them, in which they speak very critically of the Catholic Church. Once I sat in a group of a half-dozen Mormons after their sacrament meeting, asking them some questions. After it became obvious to them that I was a promoter of Catholicism, two of them started right in on the priest sex scandals, and wouldn’t let go of that. Their view is that the Catholic Church is corrupt and apostate, and we see that view expressed also by one or two of the Mormons who frequent this forum.
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isaac.madsen
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How ironic. What about the Mormon sex (polygamy) scandals? They can’t deny polygamy, but would rather defend it as ordained of God. Even though Joseph Smith and Brigham Young could never have been lawfully wed to their many wives, the church still defends those travesties, even though the 12th Article of Faith says, “…we believe in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.” Yet Joseph broke countless laws in promotion of his new religion and it ended in outright war against Mormonism. The country was only defending itself and for that, both Joseph and Brigham (amongst others) called it damned.
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Allweather
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Well, it was a quick-moving “debate” that lasted about 45 minutes. I didn’t have time, nor did I know enough about Mormonism, to bring anything up that would have gotten to the point you raise. One of the men had a real unhappy look on his face, and he asked me if I thought that a sinful man could be a priest. At first, I didn’t catch on what he was getting at, and answered that a priest’s state of holiness has no effect on the validity of the sacraments he administers. He didn’t accept that, and then got more specific about the priest scandals, and then another man joined in. About all I could do was to point out that we all are sinners and subject to the fall. After a few minutes of this the leader stepped in and drew the debate back to the original question I’d asked, which was about Mt 16.
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