Mormon missionaries vandalize and desecrate Catholic Shrine

[why_me]

Did I use the word “feel”?

Just because Mormons call themselves Christians, doesn’t mean they are. See Memaw’s posts. She has hit the nail on the head on this.

Call yourself a Rolls and feel that way too.

 

[Jerusha]

The rest of the world? I could call myself a Rolls Royce, but that doesn’t make it so.

Narrowmindedness towards outsiders is characteristic of LDS much more so than Catholics.

LDS is BASED on feelings, and a social climate of massive positive reinforcement for those who are chosen for such treatment, which then gets into feeling like a Rolls Royce, when in fact, they are Yugo’s.

 

[Memaw]

“Talking” about Jesus and believing HE is the Son of God and that HE IS GOD are 2 different things. I have known many Mormans and some had left the Morman Church because they couldn’t continue to believe some of their doctrine, such as having spirit children on other planets, One man had been raised a christian and finally got really tired of hearing how wrong they were about Jesus. He just couldn’t swallow their false teachings. Also I have talked to so many missionaries that have come in my neighborhood. And NONE of them could admit to me that they believe Jesus IS GOD. They talked a lot about Jesus too but still do not believe HE is GOD. DO you believe that Jesus IS GOD??? Please Give me an honest answer!!!

Whyme, you still DID NOT answer my question, Do you believe in the Blessed Trinity that states, Jesus IS GOD. Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

 

[twopekinguys]

Narrowmindedness towards outsiders is characteristic of LDS much more so than Catholics.

LDS is BASED on feelings, and a social climate of massive positive reinforcement for those who are chosen for such treatment, which then gets into feeling like a Rolls Royce, when in fact, they are Yugo’s.

Amen!!! Preach it brother!!

When I was a kid, I heard an old joke (unfortunately I can’t remember it all) that the punchline was…We’re all going to heaven, its just that Catholics are going in Cadillacs, the rest are going in Fords.

 

[RebeccaJ]

Amen!!! Preach it brother!!

Jerusha is a sister.

 

[Jerusha]

Jerusha is a sister.

Hi, sis. Would’a become a nun, but got waylaid with alcohol before I could get there.

 

[twopekinguys]

Hi, sis. Would’a become a nun, but got waylaid with alcohol before I could get there.

Ooops…My Bad. My most sincere and humble apologies.:bowdown:

 

[Memaw]

Amen!!! Preach it brother!!

When I was a kid, I heard an old joke (unfortunately I can’t remember it all) that the punchline was…We’re all going to heaven, its just that Catholics are going in Cadillacs, the rest are going in Fords.

Thats not funny, if we get to Heaven it will by by the GRACE of God and our willingness to co-operate with Him. HE said I AM the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE, Come follow ME.

 

[twopekinguys]

Thats not funny, if we get to Heaven it will by by the GRACE of God and our willingness to co-operate with Him. HE said I AM the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE, Come follow ME.

I’m sorry you didn’t see the humor in it, it wasn’t meant to offend,but it did relate to the “Rolls Royce” comments used earlier.

I think the Good Lord has a sense of humor. especially if it makes a point.

 

[majick275]

Actually, mormons do consider their church to be christian and they do consider themselves to be christians. Who am I to say that they are wrong? And who is anyone to say that the mormons are wrong in defining themselves as christians?

and muslims consider themselves to be the true religion of God. who are we to say they are wrong? The FLDS church considers themselves to be mormons. who is anyone to say they are wrong in defining themselves mormons? we could go on and on but hopefully you get the point.

The catholic church is responsible for defining christians. we who are christians must ensure that people aren’t deceived by false teachers and thus end up thinking it was okay to be mormon cuz we’re all going to heaven as christians…it simply isn’t so.

The catholic church teachings on this are clear. the bible is clear on this as well. the mormons can call themselves whatever they wish, it doesn’t make it so and it is ridiculous to think that no one can contradict them on this.

 

[Jerusha]

Ooops…My Bad. My most sincere and humble apologies.:bowdown:

No offense taken. The name I generally go by is gender-neutral, and I like it that way.

 

[why_me]

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The catholic church is responsible for defining christians. we who are christians must ensure that people aren’t deceived by false teachers and thus end up thinking it was okay to be mormon cuz we’re all going to heaven as christians…it simply isn’t so.

The catholic church teachings on this are clear. the bible is clear on this as well. the mormons can call themselves whatever they wish, it doesn’t make it so and it is ridiculous to think that no one can contradict them on this.

And then we have catholics who are offended by the actions of three young men and yet, they can write such offensive sentences about another faith. Beam me up scotty…

 

[xulu]

And then we have catholics who are offended by the actions of three young men and yet, they can write such offensive sentences about another faith. Beam me up scotty…

Umm… were you not the one who recently was proclaiming hope that the moderator would close this thread down?

This is like hoping the fire will go out while pouring gas on it:whacky:

 

[majick275]

And then we have catholics who are offended by the actions of three young men and yet, they can write such offensive sentences about another faith. Beam me up scotty…

what does that mean? do you or do you not think these 3 should apologize?

what “offensive” sentences have been written about another faith that aren’t true?

if it’s true then we have an obligation to ensure that others aren’t deceived. (unless you don’t believe in God, then you can make up your own rules)

 

[Jerusha]

Nothing offensive about it, anyone has the right to form their own opinion about LDS, based on the study of their scripture, culture, theology, and history. And LDS have the right to call themselves anything they want.

And it goes the other way, as well. Truth will prevail.

But NO-ONE has the right toviolate and desecrate holy places of another religion.

 

[why_me]

Umm… were you not the one who recently was proclaiming hope that the moderator would close this thread down?

This is like hoping the fire will go out while pouring gas on it:whacky:

The moderator did not read my post. And certain individuals do not want this thread to head to page two.

 

[why_me]

what does that mean? do you or do you not think these 3 should apologize?

what “offensive” sentences have been written about another faith that aren’t true?

if it’s true then we have an obligation to ensure that others aren’t deceived. (unless you don’t believe in God, then you can make up your own rules)

It means that you should apologize to all mormons for your opinions about the lds faith being not christian.

 

[LaMar]

And then we have catholics who are offended by the actions of three young men and yet, they can write such offensive sentences about another faith. Beam me up scotty…

People who are insecure need a scapegoat. The same people who complain about being someone else’s scapegoat are the first to scapegoat others.

You can point this out, but it’s usually too sensitive an issue for the people who do it to recognize. They end up scapegoating you, simply because you pointed it out.

(Hopefully Elric will approve of this message )

Scapegoating (displacement and/or ego projection) is a primitive reaction and a defense mechanism for people who indulge in it. If you understand this, you become less apt to criticize the people who do it. The self-aware are prone to criticize and have no problem criticizing themselves and the people who belong to their own ingroup.

This is why I think it is important for Mormons to take the lead in criticizing their own when they do something wrong. It’s a means toward a fuller understanding of our own collective outlook.

 

[why_me]

This is why I think it is important for Mormons to take the lead in criticizing their own when they do something wrong. It’s a means toward a fuller understanding of our own collective outlook.

The lds church has apologized. Mormons however are a diverse group of human beings and diversity of thought is the norm. Some will be critical of the missionaries and others will make excuses.

 

[LaMar]

The lds church has apologized. Mormons however are a diverse group of human beings and diversity of thought is the norm. Some will be critical of the missionaries and others will make excuses.

Ever read Adorno or Marcuse?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_theory

Criticism is necessary for its own sake. It reaches beyond this one expression of hatred (the missionaries beheading a statue) and exposes the root of the problem: intolerance toward other faiths.

If Mormonism is to survive and compete, we have to purge it of the underlying sources of conflict with others. In doing so, Mormons will become more free to individuate, and Mormonism as a whole will become more progressive and tolerant.

You were right to point out the hypocrisy of people who are intolerant toward Mormons, while complaining of Mormon intolerance, but you should also be open to the fact that we need to criticize ourselves too. If we don’t learn from our mistakes, we’ll just keep making them.