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I read the mormon prophets comments at their latest general conference. The spent a lot of time trying to claim they are Christians and are puzzled why we reject the book of mormon. We can give lots of reasons. Here is a taste:
"When the emperor Constantine was converted to Christianity, he became aware of the divisiveness among the clergy concerning the nature of Deity. In an attempt to overcome this he gathered the eminent divines of the day to Nicaea in the year 325. Each participant was given opportunity to state his views. The argument only grew more heated. When a definition could not be reached, a compromise was made. It came to be known as the Nicene Creed, and its basic elements are recited by most of the Christian faithful.
Personally I cannot understand it.
To me the creed is confusing.
How deeply grateful I am that we of this Church do not rely on any man-made statement concerning the nature of Deity. Our knowledge comes directly from the personal experience of Joseph Smith, who, while yet a boy, spoke with God the Eternal Father and His Beloved Son, the Risen Lord. He knelt in Their presence; he heard Their voices; and he responded. Each was a distinct personality. Small wonder that he told his mother that he had learned that her church was not true. And so, one of the great overarching doctrines of this Church is our belief in God the Eternal Father. He is a being, real and individual. He is the great Governor of the universe, yet He is our Father, and we are His children."
This folks is why mormons are not Christians. The above paragraph is simply incredible. Anyone notice he claims our doctrine is “man-made” and then starts jabbering about Joseph Smith? Does he have any idea of the inconsistancy? Also notice he claims he is “confused” and doesn’t understand the Nicene Creed. Isn’t he supposed to be inspired? Hasn’t he bothered to read about the Creed and what it really means or learn the history of Nicea?
Sorry mormons. You baptize converts because you believe their previous baptism and faith were deficient. We baptize mormons when they become Christians because mormonism is not Christian. I especially was amused by the sense of hurt feelings they got when we say that. Isn’t this the same church that calls us gentiles, baptizes our dead without permission, and treats non-mormons in Utah like scum? Don’t they send out thousands of missionaries to convert our people? Didn’t their temple ceremonies brand clergy as minions of Satan? Please, spare us the false claims and the pity party.
If your prophet would like I will send him a book on the Trinity free of charge and even visit with him to explain it.
"When the emperor Constantine was converted to Christianity, he became aware of the divisiveness among the clergy concerning the nature of Deity. In an attempt to overcome this he gathered the eminent divines of the day to Nicaea in the year 325. Each participant was given opportunity to state his views. The argument only grew more heated. When a definition could not be reached, a compromise was made. It came to be known as the Nicene Creed, and its basic elements are recited by most of the Christian faithful.
Personally I cannot understand it.
To me the creed is confusing.
How deeply grateful I am that we of this Church do not rely on any man-made statement concerning the nature of Deity. Our knowledge comes directly from the personal experience of Joseph Smith, who, while yet a boy, spoke with God the Eternal Father and His Beloved Son, the Risen Lord. He knelt in Their presence; he heard Their voices; and he responded. Each was a distinct personality. Small wonder that he told his mother that he had learned that her church was not true. And so, one of the great overarching doctrines of this Church is our belief in God the Eternal Father. He is a being, real and individual. He is the great Governor of the universe, yet He is our Father, and we are His children."
This folks is why mormons are not Christians. The above paragraph is simply incredible. Anyone notice he claims our doctrine is “man-made” and then starts jabbering about Joseph Smith? Does he have any idea of the inconsistancy? Also notice he claims he is “confused” and doesn’t understand the Nicene Creed. Isn’t he supposed to be inspired? Hasn’t he bothered to read about the Creed and what it really means or learn the history of Nicea?
Sorry mormons. You baptize converts because you believe their previous baptism and faith were deficient. We baptize mormons when they become Christians because mormonism is not Christian. I especially was amused by the sense of hurt feelings they got when we say that. Isn’t this the same church that calls us gentiles, baptizes our dead without permission, and treats non-mormons in Utah like scum? Don’t they send out thousands of missionaries to convert our people? Didn’t their temple ceremonies brand clergy as minions of Satan? Please, spare us the false claims and the pity party.
If your prophet would like I will send him a book on the Trinity free of charge and even visit with him to explain it.
He misstates the facts about Constantine and the council of nicea. I offer this as an objective view of what happened: