Mormon Reaction to the death of John Paul II

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However, I will take responsiblity of “hijacking” the thread, since I AM the one who started off by expressing my cynacism.
 
I thought I would post a few thoughts on why I (as a Mormon) genuinely admire Pope John Paul II.
  1. To my mind, Communism is an unmitigated evil. Mormons see this life as a testing ground where we choose to follow good or evil, but Communist governments have actively tried to take away the freedom of choice regarding religious matters that is necessary for people to fulfill their destinies. Pope John Paul II courageously fought Communism, and was a very large factor in its collapse in Europe.
  2. John Paul II was an outspoken advocate of basic human rights.
  3. I can’t stand “Modernists” any more than conservative Catholics can. These people basically want to remake Catholicism into something indistinguishable from popular European and American culture. Maybe I disagree with JP II on a few issues like clerical celibacy and such, but I also understand that if you give an inch, people will usually take a mile. Even if it is a good idea to lighten up on a couple things, if you do it too fast, people start thinking “anything goes.” JP II didn’t budge on his convictions. I can respect and admire that, even when I don’t agree with him across the board.
Frankly, I’m afraid that a liberal will be elected Pope, and the situation will get worse. Mormons want to fight against cultural decline, and we would be idiots to think we could do it without allies.

BDawg
 
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BDawg:
…Maybe I disagree with JP II on a few issues like clerical celibacy and such, but I also understand that if you give an inch, people will usually take a mile. Even if it is a good idea to lighten up on a couple things, if you do it too fast, people start thinking “anything goes.”…
BDawg
*Celibacy Is a Gift
By Greg Mockeridge
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When adherence to God’s natural reproductive design and the moral law of human sexuality as taught by the Catholic Church is ridiculed as prudish or extreme, it should be no shock to anyone that her teaching regarding celibacy is seen as a sort of a neutered aberration. To understand celibacy we must first understand the most basic fact of our sexuality—that is, we are created male and female. Thus our sexuality is primarily a matter of being, not behavior. Celibacy bears witness to this truth in a preeminent way. …Read More…
 
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BDawg:
I thought I would post a few thoughts on why I (as a Mormon) genuinely admire Pope John Paul II.

Frankly, I’m afraid that a liberal will be elected Pope, and the situation will get worse. Mormons want to fight against cultural decline, and we would be idiots to think we could do it without allies.

BDawg
Fear not, JPII was considered a moderate when he was elected and now the secular press deems him some great Catholic conservative. The Cardinals, through the guidance of the Holy Spirit, will elect someone that will keep the Apostolic teachings intact.
 
Not to hijack the thread, but to defend my remarks…I am the one who has had to deal with crying parents whose teenage daughter was “seduced” to become Mormon by handsome young missionaries. Of course after her baptism they were gone back to Utah leaving the family mess they created behind. I don’t fight with Methodists. Sure I don’t agree with their faith, BUT they are not prosyltizing my people nor do I proslytize Methodists. Therein lies the difference. My whole point is that I don’t believe their comments are “heartfelt” and that it is they who are using the occasion of our Pope’s death to put us off guard. This is the last comment I will make on this particular thread.
 
My whole point is that I don’t believe their comments are “heartfelt” and that it is they who are using the occasion of our Pope’s death to put us off guard.
i agree with you. while i certainly admire the zeal in evangelization and those truths which we share, the fact is they hold serious doctrinal errors which will affect how they act and ultimately their salvation. in christian europe, heresy was considered more serious then those crimes which only harm the body.

i feel that they are trying to appear very “christian” to proselytize more effectively. i don’t understand why a mormon would be interested in what catholics think. it’s one thing to dialogue or debate them in the name of truth, but it’s another to sound like we share the same faith.
 
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flameburns623:
The announcers and translators on the secular stations seem uniformly to have called the officiants of the rites at the end of the funeral mass ‘Eastern Orthodox’–was this in fact true, or were these actually Eastern-Rite (‘Uniates’, no insult intended) Catholics?
Flame,

They were Eastern and Oriental Catholics. The Coptic Catholic Patriarch incensed the casket and the Melkite Catholic Patriarch then led the Eastern hierarchs in prayer.

Many years,

Neil
 
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