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scottj
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Answerplease-
I saw a post 713 from you saying I wasn’t very forgiving of Satanists… but now it is gone.
Yes, I do forgive them as Christ says we should. As they openly work with Satan and Demons, I would not interact with them directly as those supernatural forces are quite strong and I think a priest would be better qualified to deal with them directly.
As I said before though, I would pray for them to come to Christ.
I saw a post 713 from you saying I wasn’t very forgiving of Satanists… but now it is gone.
Yes, I do forgive them as Christ says we should. As they openly work with Satan and Demons, I would not interact with them directly as those supernatural forces are quite strong and I think a priest would be better qualified to deal with them directly.
As I said before though, I would pray for them to come to Christ.
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scottj
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Answerplease- I see you are also editing your replies as my reference to devil worshipers was a direct reply to you.
Sorry to see you want to have discussions and then edit your replies after the fact.
Sorry to see you want to have discussions and then edit your replies after the fact.
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zaffiroborant
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A small sample of posts from Whyme, not included are the many times he’s implied Catholics are drunks.
why me:
I don’t see that he has any business calling anyone on their posts with a record like this.
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scottj
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A small sample of posts from Whyme, not included are the many times he’s implied Catholics are drunks.
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Originally Posted by why me
And yet, Mormons are followers of Christ and in many respects much better followers of christ than most catholics. But I really do believe that Christ would not be disappointed with the lds lifestyle or how the lds follow him.
*Sorry to see that Why Me has not met more devout Catholic followers of Christ as there are many many out there. *
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Originally Posted by why me
Let me make this clear to you. The lds church and the catholic church are not enemies when it comes to morality and what a moral and god-like life means. Both faiths can work together over moral issues. In fact, listening to EWTN I can see Mormon influence when they advise young people to dress modestly and abstain from excess alcohol consumption. I do believe that many catholics at EWTN do wish that catholic youth have the moral code that lds youth live by.
In Timothy it is stated that women should dress modestly- which was written a long long time ago. I am glad that those of the Mormon faith do dress modestly, as goodness, many today do not. But those of the Mormon faith are only adhering to what is followed by many Catholics per the bible. As far as alcohol, I do NOT know the statistics, but I am sure that there are those in the Mormon faith as well as all other Christian faiths that use alcohol to excess. And anything in excess is a sin for any follower of Christ.
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Originally Posted by why me
And does mormonism encourage unethical or immoral behavior? I know many catholics who behave like monkeys in their sexual behavior…should I blame the catholic church for this?
Yes, through personal conversations with fellow Catholics, some are quite “frisky” And again, there are many Christians who do not abstain when not married. Let’s get together Catholics/Christians/Mormons and push abstinence.
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Originally Posted by why me
I don’t think that you are correct. I think that mormons are god-respecting people who seem to pray much more than the average catholic. They also attempt to live holy lives by attempting to keep their bodies holy for the holy spirit to dwell in. If more catholic youth had the same values as mormon youth, the world would certainly be a more wonderful place. There is much that catholic youth can learn from the actions of mormon youth. I am speaking of course in general terms.
And so, yes, I can defend many actions in the mormon faith.?
And again, there are many god respecting Catholics who live holy lives and treat their bodies as temples for the holy spirit. Let’s get together and encourage this with all followers of Christ.
I don’t see that he has any business calling anyone on their posts with a record like this.
Griffins nest in the eves of my garage.
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Originally Posted by why me
And yet, Mormons are followers of Christ and in many respects much better followers of christ than most catholics. But I really do believe that Christ would not be disappointed with the lds lifestyle or how the lds follow him.
*Sorry to see that Why Me has not met more devout Catholic followers of Christ as there are many many out there. *
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Originally Posted by why me
Let me make this clear to you. The lds church and the catholic church are not enemies when it comes to morality and what a moral and god-like life means. Both faiths can work together over moral issues. In fact, listening to EWTN I can see Mormon influence when they advise young people to dress modestly and abstain from excess alcohol consumption. I do believe that many catholics at EWTN do wish that catholic youth have the moral code that lds youth live by.
In Timothy it is stated that women should dress modestly- which was written a long long time ago. I am glad that those of the Mormon faith do dress modestly, as goodness, many today do not. But those of the Mormon faith are only adhering to what is followed by many Catholics per the bible. As far as alcohol, I do NOT know the statistics, but I am sure that there are those in the Mormon faith as well as all other Christian faiths that use alcohol to excess. And anything in excess is a sin for any follower of Christ.
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Originally Posted by why me
And does mormonism encourage unethical or immoral behavior? I know many catholics who behave like monkeys in their sexual behavior…should I blame the catholic church for this?
Yes, through personal conversations with fellow Catholics, some are quite “frisky” And again, there are many Christians who do not abstain when not married. Let’s get together Catholics/Christians/Mormons and push abstinence.
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Originally Posted by why me
I don’t think that you are correct. I think that mormons are god-respecting people who seem to pray much more than the average catholic. They also attempt to live holy lives by attempting to keep their bodies holy for the holy spirit to dwell in. If more catholic youth had the same values as mormon youth, the world would certainly be a more wonderful place. There is much that catholic youth can learn from the actions of mormon youth. I am speaking of course in general terms.
And so, yes, I can defend many actions in the mormon faith.?
And again, there are many god respecting Catholics who live holy lives and treat their bodies as temples for the holy spirit. Let’s get together and encourage this with all followers of Christ.
I don’t see that he has any business calling anyone on their posts with a record like this.
Griffins nest in the eves of my garage.
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choctaw
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I neglected to put the exact reference in the BOM concerning the abominable church…it was 1 Nephi, ch 13, 26:27 verse… I read nothing in that area about your statement referring to the abominable church being those who choose evil etc. Maybe I just did not see where you got that wording. If indeed it is even there……….no big deal, we sometimes think up answers without any proof. I am just another sinner who wastes time typing words and seeing what they bring.
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fms
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And we are supposed to be the religion of Love!..
It’s really nice to see someone say this–particularly a Catholic considering that there is so much apparent hatred of Mormons here.
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dianaiad
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uhmn…no.
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dianaiad
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Did you see anything in that verse that refers to the Catholic church, specifically? The point is, from places other than this verse, we have ‘the church of the devil’ and that “abominable church” defined…not as a specific formal belief system, but as a collection if individuals whose choices give them something in common; a prediliction for evil, pride, and the use of religion for gain. We find these people in EVERY church, unfortunately.
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Xavierlives
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Hmm… I am trying to think of the legal ramifications of stating an abortion is a miscarriage.
Since an abortion is an elective procedure, it wouldn’t be insurance fraud, unless they are then trying to bill the insurance for a D&C. I’d say, most abortion clinics wouldn’t even be established as insurance providers, so that would be a stretch. States are not required to report abortions to the Federal Government, so doctors are not required to report abortions to the states. So there wouldn’t be any misrepresentation to a government entity. In fact, most requirements for reporting of medical procedures are things like stabbings or shootings. Then doctors are required to reporst suspicious injuries like domestic violence, child abuse, and sometimes rape. The only other violation might be a state specific law, like a 24 hour cooling off period, but that would likely be followed.
It is likely an ethical violation, but the person filing an ethics complaint would actually be the one receiving the benefit so that is unlikely to be reported.
So I am not sure what you see as illegal.
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TheosisM
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It certainly would be very odd and unethical for a hospital or any medical facility to document abortions as miscarriages, not to mention everything that goes into documenting an abortion or a miscarriage (including managing the people involved (physicians, nurses, techs, etc) who all have their own charting to do on that procedure, and keeping the stories straight), as well as what happens to the actual fetus, so then that involves the pathology/laboratory staff as well. Is not falsifying medical records a crime?
I don’t see how this could actually work. It’s not like if you just check a box that says “miscarriage” instead of “abortion” and that’s it.
I don’t see how this could actually work. It’s not like if you just check a box that says “miscarriage” instead of “abortion” and that’s it.
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RebeccaJ
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Perhaps Paul was referring to forced miscarriage, ie, at-home abortion methods.
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dianaiad
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It’s called ‘fraud,’ Xavier. The treatment given for a spontaneous miscarriage is different from that given to cause one…that is, an abortion. The future ramifications for the woman’s health are also very different.
It is insurance fraud, if nothing else…and most definitely the sort of ethics complaint that could lose a license. Certainly the risk is too great for anyone to assume that it is in any way a widely done practice. It MIGHT be…if abortion were illegal. Since it is not…
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Xavierlives
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Yes. And like I stated, the abortion would be done on a “private pay” basis, so the woman (and the doctor) would not be filing an insurance claim that they would be committing any type of fraud. I can go to my doctor and say I’d like to pay out of pocket and everyone is fine with that arrangement.
As for the ethics violation, it is doubtful someone would lose their license over one complaint. There would likely be a closed hearing where the Doctor would receive a censure. From there, if other offenses occurred, a suspension or revocation might follow. But again, the complaining party would be the woman who is receiving the language swap, so by filing a complaint, she would also be admitting to an abortion.
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