This is what I don’t understand. You should realize it, Living Waters7.
And then I don’t think is a language advance, even though of course there is one since evidently English is not neither my first nor second language since I am Italian living in a French speaking part of Switzerland.
It is not question of getting an advantage.
I can explain to you what you say you didn’t understand. But I am sure that if you would have made a little effort you would have understood it.
"What does “relative to chair” mean?
I have never heard that phrase used before.
So what? Just ask yourself what will differenziate us and Him in the LDS spirit world. Just hierarchy. Since we and Him would have been of the same nature in that world.
It is clear in Latter-day Saint theology that because we are all children of God, and can be heirs of God and joint-heirs of Christ, we partake of the divine nature, yet God will always be our Father, and will always be above us. Jesus Christ will always be our Lord and Savior, and exaltation will not change that.
I am not sure what you mean by “political union”.
You can find the meaning in John’s Gospel. One as He and the Father is.
In LDS this union is not really a mistery (not even a mistery is considered the union between a man and a woman even though is said to be a mistery). Union, for LDS is like being on the same side willingly observing the same rules. So political not mistical.
This is the union with the Father from a LDS point of view.
If not what kind of union it is since there is a possibility for LDS members to become gods.
Yes, Latter-day Saints agree with John 17’s statement on us being one with each other even as the Father and the Son are one. We agree with this statement, and in our view, it points to a oneness of purpose and love. It isn’t simply being on the same side willingly observing the same rules. It is about being so united in purpose, love, mind, power, wisdom, that they are united as one Godhead.
From a Christian point of view there is neither saintity nor eternal life outside the union with the Father. And this union is a complete total an unconceivable in our human situation.
Latter-day Saints believe that eternal life is to live in the eternal presence of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, in the Celestial Kingdom, and to live the life that God lives, in His presence. Eternal life is only possible by the grace of God, through the atonement of Jesus Christ.
The Holy Father is not a rewarding father for our act but a rewarding father for the realization of our fault, our sins and our weakness. For the courage of refusing the ignorance as consequence of our egoism. Things that are exalted everytime we try to get our own personal good. This is the only thing that get exaltation. Our egocentricity. Our own personal “small” good. Our small world that includes us and our family and everybody we love. And Jesus talked about this clearly.
Right.
The thing that is very strange is that mormons when things are said by non mormons they say these things are said incorrectly.
One of the best things studying Christianity is that from a Christian saint point of view the heaven is not really an heaven if some is out of it since it will be sadness for the one that is ot there. An LDS or a JW wait for their reward and if some is out is just out. Maybe not
you, but many of them.
I’ve never heard this perspective from a Latter-day Saint. We hope that we may be joined by our entire families in God’s heavenly Kingdom. We even believe that God has provided a way for us to extend the blessings of the sacred ordinances of baptism, confirmation, ordination, endowment, etc to those that did not have the opportunity to accept them in this life, in the hope that they will accept them and join with all the faithful in God’s eternal presence.
