Mormonism-The Benefits of "Living Prophets and Apostles"

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Marie5890 said:
The doctrine of marriage continuing into the next life is a strong emotional and romantic pull for Mormons. It’s very appealing for those who do lean heavily on feelings and emotions to determine what is true vs what is not true.

That’s why, as Catholics, we lean on faith and reason, not emotions, for discerning Truth. Feelings and emotions wax and wane. Etc etc.

And if one were to be really honest and look at marriage in it’s entire historical evolution, romance is a far newer prism.

Historically, marriage didnt rely on romance. Romance was not it’s foundation. The idea of romance really began to blossom as it’s main foundation in the 19th century, really got into high gear in the 20th century and now, marriage is on the decline in the 21st century.

But historically, romance wasn’t seen as part of the equation.
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Yep. Sometimes you had to marry the ugly sister just to keep peace in the family. 😃
 
SteveVH said:
Yep. Sometimes you had to marry the ugly sister just to keep peace in the family. 😃
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Speaking observationally, Mormons of all sects, based on their polygymous history, know that marriage is not about romance.

How romantic can it be when a man has multiple wives??:confused: I mean, seriously, how romantic is that???
 
Marie5890 said:
Speaking observationally, Mormons of all sects, based on their polygymous history, know that marriage is not about romance.

How romantic can it be when a man has multiple wives??:confused: I mean, seriously, how romantic is that???
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“Honey, I’ll be with you just as soon as I am finished with Mary over here.” Yeah, that would make her tingly all over. :rolleyes:
 
eddie_too said:
regardless of the historical questions about changing doctrines (as opposed to development of doctrines) that some claim occur within the RCC, the fact remains that the structure of Jesus’ Church, as He Himself created it, has always been that of the RCC. it has always been a magisterium with the final say being given to the successor of Peter.

this was new to me and someone claiming to be LDS said it earlier in this thread, but I did not know that the LDS had a history of being a democracy wherein the majority of the twelve living apostles had the final say on doctrine. can anyone say if that is true?

I know that heaven is not a democracy.
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The LDS church teaches both, that it’s president has the final say, and that a majority of it’s church apostles has the final say. I suspect it is up to th president as to when he gets the final word or turns it over to a vote?
 
gazelam said:
The LDS view is that the Bible is divinely inspired and is part of the LDS canon. The Book of Mormon reaffirms the divinity of the Bible. The LDS view is that the Bible as originally written is correct and that some errors have crept in over the centuries. I hope this helps.
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Gazelam -

That LDS and Catholics agree that there are 27 inspired books of the NT, and only 27 books, no more and no less, I say: 👍

But I highlight 3 LDS inconsistencies:
  1. to believe that a Church, Catholic Bishops, nearly 300 years into a Great Apostasy, could discern what is and is not NT scripture: 27 NT books out of several hundred early Christian writings.
  2. to believe that the Holy Spirit would guide Catholic Bishops to all Truth as to what is NT scripture and not protect Church teachings on faith and morals.
  3. to believe that the Church got it right on the NT, but wrong on the OT. The Church discerned 46 books of the OT at the Council of Rome in 382. Your bible is missing 7 books, removed 1,100 years later in the reformation.
To the point of the OP, have the Living Prophets ever addressed any of the three inconsistencies above?
 
LivingWaters7 said:
Over at Mormon Dialogue and Discussion Board, TexanKnight (who is “CountryBoy”) sent me this message last night:

"you should not have been so afraid of me. Your fear was all I needed to know about your idea of truth…"

I think we need to pray for him, pray that he finds spiritual peace, and, at least to me, mental peace.
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CountryBoy has been posting since last August about how he wants to go back to the LDS church, before that he posted on MD&D as Stevedallas in 2011 also talking about how he wanted to go back to the LDS church. He has also posted here and on MD&D a SirThomasMore and mercilessly ripped on the LDS church and got himself banned on both boards under that handle. Prayers for his peace of mind certainly seen in order.
 
Stephen168 said:
I could never understand attending a Church that didn’t have the Eucharist. If the body and blood of Christ isn’t there, then why attend.

I remember a poster who called a sacrament of bread and water prison food, leaving Jesus Christ for prison.
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Yes, I believe that poster was TexanKnight. How ironic and how sad. I hope he’s okay.
I pray he finds peace.

Paul
 
eddie_too said:
regardless of the historical questions about changing doctrines (as opposed to development of doctrines) that some claim occur within the RCC, the fact remains that the structure of Jesus’ Church, as He Himself created it, has always been that of the RCC. it has always been a magisterium with the final say being given to the successor of Peter.

this was new to me and someone claiming to be LDS said it earlier in this thread, but I did not know that the LDS had a history of being a democracy wherein the majority of the twelve living apostles had the final say on doctrine. can anyone say if that is true?

I know that heaven is not a democracy.
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So far as I understand it, the president of the LDS church (“the prophet”) has the final and absolute say on all matters pertaining to the church. The 12 act as advisors to the president, serve many high-level functions within the church and hold positions on the boards of many of the church-owned corporations. It seems that the president in more recent times seeks to build a consensus with the other 2 members of the first presidency and with the 12 before instituting any significant change.

When the first presidency is dissolved upon the death of the prophet, then the 12 act as the leaders during the interregnum period until a new president is chosen. During that time, the 12 rule by majority vote.

Invariably, the new president/prophet chosen is the senior apostle (the one who has been an apostle the longest, not necessarily the oldest apostle). When Thomas S. Monson dies, Boyd K. Packer will become the president/prophet if he outlives Monson. Many LDS hope that will not happen, as Packer is unpopular among the rank and file and especially among younger LDS.

Paul
 
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zaffiroborant said:
CountryBoy has been posting since last August about how he wants to go back to the LDS church, before that he posted on MD&D as Stevedallas in 2011 also talking about how he wanted to go back to the LDS church. He has also posted here and on MD&D a SirThomasMore and mercilessly ripped on the LDS church and got himself banned on both boards under that handle. Prayers for his peace of mind certainly seen in order.
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According to TK’s profile, he’s suspended? :confused: I must have missed something. :confused:
 
Correction all Prophets and Apostles alive in heaven. All dead Mormons in Hell. Be patient the ones alive are headed there. The study of Mormonism is the study of the foolish tricks of the devil. Better to play parcheesi in the dark when you are very sleepy ,you will learn more and not honor Satan.
 
tmcq said:
Correction all Prophets and Apostles alive in heaven. All dead Mormons in Hell. Be patient the ones alive are headed there. The study of Mormonism is the study of the foolish tricks of the devil. Better to play parcheesi in the dark when you are very sleepy ,you will learn more and not honor Satan.
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Those are extremely harsh words, who are you to speak to people’s destination in hell?

“Do not speak evil against one another, brethren. He that speaks evil against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you that you judge your neighbor?” James 4:11-12
 
"Those are extremely harsh words, who are you to speak to people’s destination in hell?

“Do not speak evil against one another, brethren. He that speaks evil against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you that you judge your neighbor?” James 4:11-12"

unless you come to the Church in full you will go to Hell Council of Florence Denzinger 714

I’m keeping you out of hell, listen up you’re going to hell.
 
tmcq said:
"Those are extremely harsh words, who are you to speak to people’s destination in hell?

“Do not speak evil against one another, brethren. He that speaks evil against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you that you judge your neighbor?” James 4:11-12"

unless you come to the Church in full you will go to Hell Council of Florence Denzinger 714

I’m keeping you out of hell, listen up you’re going to hell.
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Perhaps you should read this: forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=1095283&postcount=4
Members are not allowed to be disrespectful of anyone’s faith or religion, whether it is Catholicism or not. If a member is disrespectful, he will generally be counseled first and suspended if he persists in disrespectful postings.
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If the nature of an initial posting is blatantly disrespectful to any religion (e.g., “the pope is the anti-Christ” or “Rome is the Whore of Babylon” or “Muslims are terrorists”), suspension may be immediate and without prior counseling.
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Claiming that all non-catholics are going to hell is incredibly disrespectful of a great many religions.

Come on, you’re better than this. I will pray for you.
 
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