mormons and the apostles teachings

[GTNJNightingale]

My mother in law was talking to me the other day about her faith(LDS) and she said a couple things that sent up a red flag. one was about the Trinity. she said that they believe that the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are three seperate “persons” in the same purpose. saying that the Father has a body of flesh and bone. as well as the son. and the holy Ghost for some reason wasn’t able to receive his body due to some reason unknown but that’s why its his job to put the spirit in every person to earn his body. what the…??? I thought!
where does this even come from! its like…way out there. and I thought about what she had said for days after in fact i still think about it… i understand that she believes this with her heart and soul…i understand, i guess… how you could rationalize this for the human brain to understand… but what i don’t understand is how if a person believes in our Lord and loves him and seeks his truth how then they could accept this teaching. because this teaching is not Jesus teaching on who he is. so i then explained to her my understanding of who God is and who he says he is! about the catholic churches teachings about the trinity. Father son and holy spirit all in one God. and she asked me well how can this be so? how can the father and the son speak to each other and be in two different places at the same time if they are one…it doesn’t make any sense. I told her well it wouldn’t make sense if you thought of God the father as having a body of flesh and bones. but if you believe that he is omnipotent and with out any form …than it would fit and make perfect sense…that the Father is formless, that God came down in the form of man (hence son of God) and the holy spirit is in both of them and in all things…but when you try to limit God the father to a body then it doesn’t make any sense .

Another thing i was thinking is that Mormons and Catholics alike believe that when Jesus was preaching his word he had a group of followers and he called these followers disciples. They were to go out into the world and preach the things that Jesus had told them. And they did. Only the things the apostles were teaching of was not of three separate Gods but rather the understanding of the trinity. maybe not the actual word “trinity” but the understanding of the holy trinity. and this is what they wrote and preached about. my question is if the apostles were wrong about there understanding of who Jesus said he was …dont you think that he would have corrected them and said …no you foolish men …we are not one God we are three gods in one purpose…or what ever??? i mean really. Jesus s work was done. he taught the apostles all that they were to preach about. He loved us so much that he was willing to suffer and die for us. to come down in the form of man to Shepard us to him. This is where the understanding of the trinity comes from…Jesus! not the church just teaches this because its been made up or because it sounds good but because this is GODS TRUTH! its the good good good good news!!!

 

[SteveVH]

My mother in law was talking to me the other day about her faith(LDS) and she said a couple things that sent up a red flag. one was about the Trinity. she said that they believe that the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are three seperate “persons” in the same purpose. saying that the Father has a body of flesh and bone. as well as the son. and the holy Ghost for some reason wasn’t able to receive his body due to some reason unknown but that’s why its his job to put the spirit in every person to earn his body. what the…??? I thought!
where does this even come from! its like…way out there. and I thought about what she had said for days after in fact i still think about it… i understand that she believes this with her heart and soul…i understand, i guess… how you could rationalize this for the human brain to understand… but what i don’t understand is how if a person believes in our Lord and loves him and seeks his truth how then they could accept this teaching. because this teaching is not Jesus teaching on who he is. so i then explained to her my understanding of who God is and who he says he is! about the catholic churches teachings about the trinity. Father son and holy spirit all in one God. and she asked me well how can this be so? how can the father and the son speak to each other and be in two different places at the same time if they are one…it doesn’t make any sense. I told her well it wouldn’t make sense if you thought of God the father as having a body of flesh and bones. but if you believe that he is omnipotent and with out any form …than it would fit and make perfect sense…that the Father is formless, that God came down in the form of man (hence son of God) and the holy spirit is in both of them and in all things…but when you try to limit God the father to a body then it doesn’t make any sense .

Another thing i was thinking is that Mormons and Catholics alike believe that when Jesus was preaching his word he had a group of followers and he called these followers disciples. They were to go out into the world and preach the things that Jesus had told them. And they did. Only the things the apostles were teaching of was not of three separate Gods but rather the understanding of the trinity. maybe not the actual word “trinity” but the understanding of the holy trinity. and this is what they wrote and preached about. my question is if the apostles were wrong about there understanding of who Jesus said he was …dont you think that he would have corrected them and said …no you foolish men …we are not one God we are three gods in one purpose…or what ever??? i mean really. Jesus s work was done. he taught the apostles all that they were to preach about. He loved us so much that he was willing to suffer and die for us. to come down in the form of man to Shepard us to him. This is where the understanding of the trinity comes from…Jesus! not the church just teaches this because its been made up or because it sounds good but because this is GODS TRUTH! its the good good good good news!!!

It is making God in man’s image, pure and simple. You may or may not know that they believe that God the Father (Heavenly Father) started out as a human being and progressed to His divine state. They believe that they will follow the same path. It is bizarre to those of us who believe in a God that is unfathomable to the human mind; who’s greatness is beyond our ability to comprehend. They don’t believe that we can worship a God who we cannot understand, but what they do not realize is that if we can understand him then He is no greater than us.

 

[rmcmullan]

I think the quote (again from the Mormon scriptures) is from D&C 130:22

The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in us.

 

[Marie5890]

My mother in law was talking to me the other day about her faith(LDS) and she said a couple things that sent up a red flag. one was about the Trinity. she said that they believe that the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are three seperate “persons” in the same purpose. saying that the Father has a body of flesh and bone. as well as the son. and the holy Ghost for some reason wasn’t able to receive his body due to some reason unknown but that’s why its his job to put the spirit in every person to earn his body. what the…??? I thought!
where does this even come from! its like…way out there. and I thought about what she had said for days after in fact i still think about it… i understand that she believes this with her heart and soul…i understand, i guess… how you could rationalize this for the human brain to understand… but what i don’t understand is how if a person believes in our Lord and loves him and seeks his truth how then they could accept this teaching. because this teaching is not Jesus teaching on who he is. so i then explained to her my understanding of who God is and who he says he is! about the catholic churches teachings about the trinity. Father son and holy spirit all in one God. and she asked me well how can this be so? how can the father and the son speak to each other and be in two different places at the same time if they are one…it doesn’t make any sense. I told her well it wouldn’t make sense if you thought of God the father as having a body of flesh and bones. but if you believe that he is omnipotent and with out any form …than it would fit and make perfect sense…that the Father is formless, that God came down in the form of man (hence son of God) and the holy spirit is in both of them and in all things…but when you try to limit God the father to a body then it doesn’t make any sense .

Another thing i was thinking is that Mormons and Catholics alike believe that when Jesus was preaching his word he had a group of followers and he called these followers disciples. They were to go out into the world and preach the things that Jesus had told them. And they did. Only the things the apostles were teaching of was not of three separate Gods but rather the understanding of the trinity. maybe not the actual word “trinity” but the understanding of the holy trinity. and this is what they wrote and preached about. my question is if the apostles were wrong about there understanding of who Jesus said he was …dont you think that he would have corrected them and said …no you foolish men …we are not one God we are three gods in one purpose…or what ever??? i mean really. Jesus s work was done. he taught the apostles all that they were to preach about. He loved us so much that he was willing to suffer and die for us. to come down in the form of man to Shepard us to him. This is where the understanding of the trinity comes from…Jesus! not the church just teaches this because its been made up or because it sounds good but because this is GODS TRUTH! its the good good good good news!!!

You have to remember that Mormons believe in a Great Apostasy and that the truths became corrupted because of that.

That is why, in their belief, it all needed to be restored back to what they would claim was original teaching.

 

[1voice]

My mother in law was talking to me the other day about her faith(LDS) and she said a couple things that sent up a red flag. one was about the Trinity. she said that they believe that the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are three seperate “persons” in the same purpose. saying that the Father has a body of flesh and bone. as well as the son. and the holy Ghost for some reason wasn’t able to receive his body due to some reason unknown but that’s why its his job to put the spirit in every person to earn his body. what the…??? I thought!
where does this even come from! its like…way out there. and I thought about what she had said for days after in fact i still think about it… i understand that she believes this with her heart and soul…i understand, i guess… how you could rationalize this for the human brain to understand… but what i don’t understand is how if a person believes in our Lord and loves him and seeks his truth how then they could accept this teaching. because this teaching is not Jesus teaching on who he is. so i then explained to her my understanding of who God is and who he says he is! about the catholic churches teachings about the trinity. Father son and holy spirit all in one God. and she asked me well how can this be so? how can the father and the son speak to each other and be in two different places at the same time if they are one…it doesn’t make any sense. I told her well it wouldn’t make sense if you thought of God the father as having a body of flesh and bones. but if you believe that he is omnipotent and with out any form …than it would fit and make perfect sense…that the Father is formless, that God came down in the form of man (hence son of God) and the holy spirit is in both of them and in all things…but when you try to limit God the father to a body then it doesn’t make any sense .

Another thing i was thinking is that Mormons and Catholics alike believe that when Jesus was preaching his word he had a group of followers and he called these followers disciples. They were to go out into the world and preach the things that Jesus had told them. And they did. Only the things the apostles were teaching of was not of three separate Gods but rather the understanding of the trinity. maybe not the actual word “trinity” but the understanding of the holy trinity. and this is what they wrote and preached about. my question is if the apostles were wrong about there understanding of who Jesus said he was …dont you think that he would have corrected them and said …no you foolish men …we are not one God we are three gods in one purpose…or what ever??? i mean really. Jesus s work was done. he taught the apostles all that they were to preach about. He loved us so much that he was willing to suffer and die for us. to come down in the form of man to Shepard us to him. This is where the understanding of the trinity comes from…Jesus! not the church just teaches this because its been made up or because it sounds good but because this is GODS TRUTH! its the good good good good news!!!

It sounds preeeeeety crazy… but it is absolutely amazing what people will believe… with all their heart. In my experience. The only thing that will work is prayer. Seriously. Somewhere in the Bible it says that God says that the whole head is sick unless God heals it. Pray, and I’ll pray with you, that your Mother in Law is pressed by God … until she finally gets it… and comes to you one day and says …“I, for the life of me, cant understand how I ever believed that stuff.” … It says in the Bible that it is not God’s will that anyone should perish. That includes your Mom in Law. Every time that you think of her just remember that God loves her dearly and expect the answer to your prayer.

… She is confused. The only one that can fix that confusion is Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Pray that she hears the truth when it is spoken … and that the truth sets her free.

 

[pinay]

It sounds preeeeeety crazy… but it is absolutely amazing what people will believe… with all their heart. In my experience. The only thing that will work is prayer. Seriously. Somewhere in the Bible it says that God says that the whole head is sick unless God heals it. Pray, and I’ll pray with you, that your Mother in Law is pressed by God … until she finally gets it… and comes to you one day and says …“I, for the life of me, cant understand how I ever believed that stuff.” … It says in the Bible that it is not God’s will that anyone should perish. That includes your Mom in Law. Every time that you think of her just remember that God loves her dearly and expect the answer to your prayer.

… She is confused. The only one that can fix that confusion is Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Pray that she hears the truth when it is spoken … and that the truth sets her free.

I know, right! I mean, could you believe Jesus Christ BODY is somehow magically infused in every tiny white flat wafer and his BLOOD gets magically infused into wine so that when we eat the bread and drink the wine we are actually PHYSICALLY eating Jesus flesh and PHYSICALLY drinking Jesus blood!

What a strannnnnggeeee skeeeevvvyy sci-fi thing that is! Eeeeewww!

Okay, I’m just kidding. I was a devout Catholic for 30 years and I love the Catholic Church until today and understand completely the doctrine of Transubstantiation.

But, what I demonstrated here is how skeevvvy and wierd everything sounds until you actually study and understand what they all are saying.

So that, it doesn’t become an Eeeew… it becomes - oh, so that’s where they got that from. Okay, I don’t agree but now I understand they’re not stupid people after all.

 

[pinay]

… She is confused. The only one that can fix that confusion is Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Pray that she hears the truth when it is spoken … and that the truth sets her free.

And what makes you think she hasn’t done that?

 

[Miriam1947]

Okay, I’m just kidding. I was a devout Catholic for 30 years and I love the Catholic Church until today and understand completely the doctrine of Transubstantiation.

But, what I demonstrated here is how skeevvvy and wierd everything sounds until you actually study and understand what they all are saying.

So that, it doesn’t become an Eeeew… it becomes - oh, so that’s where they got that from. Okay, I don’t agree but now I understand they’re not stupid people after all.

If you were a devout Catholic for 30 years, why did you become a Mormon?

 

[Guitarjesus7]

My mother in law was talking to me the other day about her faith(LDS) and she said a couple things that sent up a red flag. one was about the Trinity. she said that they believe that the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are three seperate “persons” in the same purpose. saying that the Father has a body of flesh and bone. as well as the son. and the holy Ghost for some reason wasn’t able to receive his body due to some reason unknown but that’s why its his job to put the spirit in every person to earn his body. what the…??? I thought!
where does this even come from! its like…way out there. and I thought about what she had said for days after in fact i still think about it… i understand that she believes this with her heart and soul…i understand, i guess… how you could rationalize this for the human brain to understand… but what i don’t understand is how if a person believes in our Lord and loves him and seeks his truth how then they could accept this teaching. because this teaching is not Jesus teaching on who he is. so i then explained to her my understanding of who God is and who he says he is! about the catholic churches teachings about the trinity. Father son and holy spirit all in one God. and she asked me well how can this be so? how can the father and the son speak to each other and be in two different places at the same time if they are one…it doesn’t make any sense. I told her well it wouldn’t make sense if you thought of God the father as having a body of flesh and bones. but if you believe that he is omnipotent and with out any form …than it would fit and make perfect sense…that the Father is formless, that God came down in the form of man (hence son of God) and the holy spirit is in both of them and in all things…but when you try to limit God the father to a body then it doesn’t make any sense .

Another thing i was thinking is that Mormons and Catholics alike believe that when Jesus was preaching his word he had a group of followers and he called these followers disciples. They were to go out into the world and preach the things that Jesus had told them. And they did. Only the things the apostles were teaching of was not of three separate Gods but rather the understanding of the trinity. maybe not the actual word “trinity” but the understanding of the holy trinity. and this is what they wrote and preached about. my question is if the apostles were wrong about there understanding of who Jesus said he was …dont you think that he would have corrected them and said …no you foolish men …we are not one God we are three gods in one purpose…or what ever??? i mean really. Jesus s work was done. he taught the apostles all that they were to preach about. He loved us so much that he was willing to suffer and die for us. to come down in the form of man to Shepard us to him. This is where the understanding of the trinity comes from…Jesus! not the church just teaches this because its been made up or because it sounds good but because this is GODS TRUTH! its the good good good good news!!!

I think your view of the trinity is somewhat flawed as well. In the athanasian creed it states “we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; Neither confounding the Persons; nor dividing the Essence. For there is one Person of the Father; another of the Son; and another of the Holy Ghost.”

The mormons divide the essence, but It sounds a lot like you’re confounding the persons…

 

[pinay]

If you were a devout Catholic for 30 years, why did you become a Mormon?

I’d love to answer this one completely, but I don’t think this thread is the place for it - nor this forum. It’s Catholic Answers forum, know what I mean?

So, I’ll put it out very simply. I prayed about it, studied it, and the Holy Spirit guided me. Yes, the same Holy Spirit that guided me to be a devout Catholic for 30 years.

 

[Miriam1947]

I’d love to answer this one completely, but I don’t think this thread is the place for it - nor this forum. It’s Catholic Answers forum, know what I mean?

So, I’ll put it out very simply. I prayed about it, studied it, and the Holy Spirit guided me. Yes, the same Holy Spirit that guided me to be a devout Catholic for 30 years.

I am a convert to the church. And what occurs to me is that you gave up the Body and Blood for bread and water.

Don’t you miss the Eucharist?

 

[KathleenGee]

Pinay,

Do you recall Christ telling His followers about eating His flesh and drinking His blood, and most left?

Peter then exclaimed to Christ that if they left, where would they go?..the Apostles persevered and then Christ gave context – to avoid confusion if the Eucharist was real or symbolic, at the Last Supper.

People want to know Christ as the Truth, the Light, and the Way.

The Eucharist has been the center of Christianity for 2,000 years. You need to study Church History to see that the Apostasy never happened. If anything, it is happening now with people leaving the faith, believing in all sorts of strange doctrines and finding beliefs that fit them. To be Catholic requires discipline because we conform to Church.

My husband is a Filipino, born in Manilla. His paternal grandmother was a Methodist minister. His mother’s side is Catholic. Many in the Philippines are not catechized. Many Catholic Filipinos here have had their faith renewed in a great charismatic movement. In Manilla, every day the Divine Mercy Hour is venerated at 3 pm throughout the city.

 

[KathleenGee]

Pinay,

Here is an article about true reform vs false reform in the Catholic Church.

hancaquam.blogspot.com/2011/04/vatican-two-true-and-false-reform.html

The problem with Luther was that he did not have patience.

“A reform that is Catholic in spirit will seek to maintain communion with the whole body of the Church, and will avoid anything savoring of schism or factionalism. St. Paul speaks of anger, dissension, and party spirit as contrary to the Spirit of God. (Galatians 5:20). To be Catholic is precisely to see one’s self as part of a larger whole, to be inserted in the Church universal”…

When we split from the universal, Catholic Church we form schisms and factions and we can no longer share the same faith in Christ and draw on His benefits. We are then a divided house and that was not His desire.

The Church is universal and draws on and integrates all the different cultures of the entire world, but maintains its deposit of faith.

The Catholic Church is non-sectarian. The Church does not compete with other forms of Christianity. You don’t hear our priests speaking of anything other than Christ and His Life.

To knock the Church down and push one’s church up…true reform always calls us to humility and renunciation…and patience. There are reasons the Church takes time to resolve issues.

 

[GaryTaylor]

Have you ever read this link?

newadvent.org/cathen/10570c.htm

God Bless, Gary

 

[GTNJNightingale]

It is making God in man’s image, pure and simple. You may or may not know that they believe that God the Father (Heavenly Father) started out as a human being and progressed to His divine state. They believe that they will follow the same path. It is bizarre to those of us who believe in a God that is unfathomable to the human mind; who’s greatness is beyond our ability to comprehend. They don’t believe that we can worship a God who we cannot understand, but what they do not realize is that if we can understand him then He is no greater than us.

I LOVE THAT ! beacsue it is so true! …i just dont undersdtand! what segnificance is there in God if we can all become God. what segnificance would then Jesus suffering on the cross be for??? if we could all become and progress to become God anyway then we need no Jesus or his sacrifice. also…if God is a man with a body of flesh and bones just like us…(hence “just like us”…they bring God down to a mans level and elevate man to Gods level) then why would he have needed to send his son to do the job!..??? if he had a body of flesh and bones than he could have just came down him self…there would be no need for Jesus! because the way would have already been paved !!! …its just a huge bundle of contradictions and mess. and it really makes no sense .
on the contrary: Jesus preached that his father is was and always will be …needing or having no form …he is ! “I am” …jesus in the new testament calles himself this “I Am” God in the old testament calles him self this. Jesus says me and my Father are one. the bible says:
Philippians 2: 5-11
5.Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus. 6.who although he exsisted in the form of GOD, did not reguard equality with God a thing to be grasped at…

(so even tho he exsisted in the form of GOD , equal with God, he humbles him self to the form of a man)(humble…referring that he accepted the nature of becoming a man witch is benieth his greatness)

1. but emptied himself taking the form of a bond servant (key word "emptied) and being made in the likeness of man
   8. and being found in appearance as a man. he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.
   ( god is beyond death …greater than death…above death… but he loved us so much he was willing to suffer death and agony and all those things for us to scoop us up out of it with him.)
   
   9.therefor also God highly exaulted him and bestowed on him the name which is ABOVE every name.
   10.that at that name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those who are in heaven and on the earth and under the earth.
   11. and that every tounge should confess that Jesus Christ is LORD to the Glory of God the father ( that Jesus is lord TO the Glory of the father…not that Jesus is A Lord seperate from the father …no that he is Lord TO the Glory of the father)
   
   the mormon idea doesnt only not make sence but it spits on Jesus and what he suffered for us. .I dont want nor do i believe in a God that is up in heaven and dictating to everyone in heaven (mormon belief) saying “son (apart from me) you go do my dirty work …you go on the cross and suffer for there sins”.
   NO…I LOVE MY GOD that humiliated HIMSELF ,humbled HIMSELF…GAVE HIMSELF…he didnt have to!!!..but he did!!! because HIS LOVE FOR US IS SO GREAT that he would rather DIE HIMSELF…than to loose us to death!!!(that we impose onto ourselves) that kind of love is UNFATHOMABLE!!! THAT IS GOD…THAT IS THE TRUTH ABOUT OUR LORD AND I LOVE THAT AND I WILL NEVER FORGET THE CROSS.
   (sorry if i come off bluntly, but I AM SO PASSIONATE ABOUT MY LORD and the fact that he could subject himself to the kind of pain and suffering…that he went through…first the weight of the whole world that he started to bleed out of every pore…than to be whipped and spat on and humilitaed …UGGHHH…it makes me cry just thinking of it…of how passionate he was for us/…
   ok …im done!
   …please if you are an Lds member on this site…comming to look around please take no offence to what i have said …I ask you to concider it … these are Gods truths NOt my own.

 

[BYUChemAlum]

I LOVE THAT ! beacsue it is so true! …i just dont undersdtand! what segnificance is there in God if we can all become God. what segnificance would then Jesus suffering on the cross be for??? if we could all become and progress to become God anyway then we need no Jesus or his sacrifice.

Latter-day Saints believe that it is only through the atonement of Jesus Christ that we can receive eternal life, partaking of the divine nature (2 Peter 1:4), that we may be gods, and that we are children of the most High (Psalm 82:6), that we may be heirs of God and joint heirs of Christ (Romans 8:17), that we may sit with Christ in His throne, as Christ sits down with the Father in His throne (Revelation 3:17), etc etc. It is only through Christ’s atonement that repentance is possible and that we can be forgiven of our sins. It is only through the atonement of Christ that our ordinances have any effect. The atonement of Jesus Christ is central to everything in the restored Church of Jesus Christ.

also…if God is a man with a body of flesh and bones just like us…(hence “just like us”…they bring God down to a mans level and elevate man to Gods level) then why would he have needed to send his son to do the job!..???

Do you not believe that God came down to man’s level through the Incarnation?

God is forever our God, forever and infinitely beyond us. His being embodied or perhaps living on another earth somewhere at some other time doesn’t change that for us.

if he had a body of flesh and bones than he could have just came down him self…there would be no need for Jesus! because the way would have already been paved !!! …its just a huge bundle of contradictions and mess. and it really makes no sense .

No, your understanding of our beliefs doesn’t make sense, as you are creating scenarios that we don’t hold to, nor are they logical conclusions from our actual beliefs. God the Father already being embodied doesn’t mean that it logically follows that He could have come down Himself.

on the contrary: Jesus preached that his father is was and always will be …needing or having no for …he is ! “I am” …jesus in the new testament calles his self this “I Am” God in the old testament calles him self this. Jesus says me and my Father are one. the bible says:

   Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus.who although he exsisted in the form of GOD, did not reguard equality with God a thing to be grasped at....

Latter-day Saints agree with all of that. However, we don’t ascribe the meaning of “one” that you are using to that word.

(so even tho he exsisted in the form of GOD , equal with God, he humbles him self to the form of a man)(humble…referring that he accepted the nature of becoming a man witch is benieth his greatness)
but emptied himself taking the form of a bond servant (key word "emptied) and being made in the likeness of man
and being found in appearance as a man. he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.
( god is beyond death …greater than death…above death… but he loved us so much he was willing to suffer death and agony and all those things for us to scoop us up out of it with him.)

 therefor also God highly exaulted him and bestowed on him the name which is ABOVE every name. 
 that at that name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those who are in heaven and on the earth and under the earth. and that every tounge should confess that Jesus Christ is LORD to the Glory of Godthe father ( that Jesus is lord TO the Glory of the father....not that Jesus is A Lord seperate from the father ...no that he is Lord TO the Glory of the father)

Yes, Latter-day Saints believe this.

   the mormon idea doesnt only not make sence but it spits on Jesus and what he suffered for us.

No it doesn’t. Latter-day Saint belief highly regards the atonement of Jesus Christ and we firmly believe that it is only through His suffering and death, and resurrection, that eternal life is possible.

.I dont want nor do i believe in a God that is up in heaven and dictating to everyone in heaven (mormon belief) saying “son (apart from me) you go do my dirty work …you go on the cross and suffer for there sins”.

Anyone familiar with the Plan of Salvation of the restored Gospel knows that we don’t believe that God dictated to Jesus Christ to “go do my dirty work”. It is a very basic belief of the Lord’s Church that Jesus Christ freely chose to be our Savior and suffer and die for us. Free will is very important in the restored Gospel, and God doesn’t dictate or force us to do something. He lays out the benefits and consequences, and we choose.

 

[BYUChemAlum]

It is making God in man’s image, pure and simple. You may or may not know that they believe that God the Father (Heavenly Father) started out as a human being and progressed to His divine state. They believe that they will follow the same path. It is bizarre to those of us who believe in a God that is unfathomable to the human mind; who’s greatness is beyond our ability to comprehend. They don’t believe that we can worship a God who we cannot understand, but what they do not realize is that if we can understand him then He is no greater than us.

I believe I’ve explained this before.

We don’t believe that we can fully understand God. We believe that God can reveal Himself in a way that can be understood, but that doesn’t mean that He has revealed everything about Himself. That is the key point of LDS theology. God’s greatness is beyond our ability to comprehend, and LDS belief in an embodied God does not change this. We are created in God’s image, which is both physical and spiritual.

 

[GTNJNightingale]

I think your view of the trinity is somewhat flawed as well. In the athanasian creed it states “we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; Neither confounding the Persons; nor dividing the Essence. For there is one Person of the Father; another of the Son; and another of the Holy Ghost.”

The mormons divide the essence, but It sounds a lot like you’re confounding the persons…

…no.no.no…i dont divide the trinity…it just cant be done!!! .there is one father one son and one holy spirit …in one holy trinity that is God.
.maybe you miss understood what i was saying!

 

[GTNJNightingale]

Latter-day Saints believe that it is only through the atonement of Jesus Christ that we can receive eternal life, partaking of the divine nature (2 Peter 1:4),

that we may be gods

 

[GTNJNightingale]

isnt it true that the LDS believe that in the garden of eden we were nieve …and we didnt know feeling and things like that…that if an apple fell on our heads that we wouold know that it did …or wouldnt feel it. ???if im wrong correct me…but if that is true that that would be the same as to saying that free will didnt come into play untill the fall in the garden …after that we had free ccoice and free will and were choose to progress to become God or to choose death.
?? …if this is what the lds believe than …how did eve Choose to eat from the tree that God forbad …she must have know that it was bad. God said so. also, that that would be to say that they believe in origional sin…being that fall of adam and eve resulted in Original sin (the first sin) THAT brought death. just like God said ??