This is a two-part question. Is this person’s assertion what the Mormon religion teaches? If the Catholic Church did not assemble the Bible, then how did the Bible that we have today come to be?
I have already addressed that question in this post:
Paul
You put a very interesting but logically flawed spin on this. You claim the Early Church Fathers pretty much agreed on what to include on this, yet you conveniently fail to point out four things.
The analogy does not work for a number of reasons.
Mormons aren’t generally taught Christian history, and are left to their own devices to search out any Christian history they have an interest in.
You are the one who is twisting my words. I never said that the Catholic Church claims that it “wrote the Bible”. I said that Catholics make such a claim. That is perfectly true. I have noticed it on this very forum tens of times. The Catholics whom I have debated with here have often stated that the Catholic Church “wrote the Bible,” or “gave us the Bible,” or words to that effect, which of course is nonsense. It did no such thing. It was God who gave us the Bible through his prophets. If any specific group of people can legitimately claim that they “wrote the Bible” or “gave us the Bible,” it would have to be the Jews. Do you mean to tell me that if there were no Catholic Church, there would be no Bible, or nobody had heard of the Bible, or that no one could fathom what the canon of scripture was? How about the Jews, to whom the bulk of the Bible (the Old Testament) always belonged? Did they not know what the Bible was, or what scripture was, until the Catholics came along and told them? Try and tell the Jews on this forum that, and see what they will tell you. In the New Testament times, when people talked about scripture, they always meant the Old Testament, because the New Testament, or parts of it at least, had not yet even been written. But everybody knew what was sacred scripture and what wasn’t. Ok, and they were Christians—and that proves exactly what?You put a very interesting but logically flawed spin on this. You claim the Early Church Fathers pretty much agreed on what to include on this, yet you conveniently fail to point out four things.
The ECFs were all Catholic.
There was some dispute.
It was not until two Catholic Church affirmed this list that the disputes ended and the canon of scripture was finalized.
The Church maintained and preserved the scriptures through decades and centuries of often violent and destructive political and social upheavals.
Your blog also is incorrect when it says the Catholic Church claims to have written the Bible. The Church has never made such a claim.
So you say the Catholic Church did not assemble the Bible, then you go to explain how Catholics assembled it.
I am referring to this scripture:
Okay, there is little logic in this rant. And I will igmore the aggressiver and uncharitable tone you always seem to take.
True but…So?
Ok, so I organized a commitee to assemble the works of Shakespear.
According to rpp a person cannot quote the from the Bible without acknowledging the Catholic Church as the sole authority on God’s word.
Typical mormon come back, start with the insults when you dont have the answers!
OK, I did a search of CAF, and found these examples of Catholics claiming that the Catholic Church “wrote the Bible” or “gave us the Bible”:
You know, I have no problem admitting when I am wrong. See this.
A rant would be rambling sentences that say nothing, contain or are based on falsehoods and express anger, and insult persons or groups. Often the grammar is poor and there are spelling errors. (Though I will admit, I make lots of typos!) Here are some examples.
That is a poor dodge and a wriggle out of a bad situation.
Thank you for giving us such a good description of your own posts.
My posts were not deleted. I would have kicked up a big fuss about it if it had been! My browser had got stuck into an old version of the web page, and kept bringing that up instead of renewing it through the internet. Internet Explorer stores every Web page you visit in a temporary folder so that it can load them up more quickly next time, than it would by pulling them off the Internet every time. But when you refresh a page it should pull it directly off the Internet. Well, my IE had got stuck in that saved file, and just wasn’t renewing it. So I switched over to Firefox and everything worked fine. IE also works fine now. It fixed itself eventually.
“Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, Peter, Jude, James, etc” were not “Catholics”. It looks like you missed my post which I had linked to earlier. Here it is, posted once more for you: