Mormons battle gay marriage

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Nickkname said:
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080624/ap_on_re_us/mormons_gay_marriage

We Catholics are not alone in the battle! 🙂
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When Prop 22 was on the ballot, I had to contact the Mormon church to get a Yes on 22 lawn sign. I will be contacting them for a lawn sign once the Proposition has been assigned a number.

The trick will be finding a lawn sign for the parental notification proposition. Last time it was a proposition, I could not find one until I was on camping near a small community. After mass I saw two on the rectory’s porch swing. I asked the pastor about where he got them. He said he made several of them to give to people. He gave us both of the remaining ones!
 
Crow said:
That is the one fruit of good coming from all this: genuine christian followers of different religious traditions can find a common front and stand together.
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Yep, common front… discrimination.

On another point, Mormons fighting Gay marriage…isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black?
 
onetimeposter said:
Yep, common front… discrimination.

On another point, Mormons fighting Gay marriage…isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black?
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Why do you say that? Mormons have always been against gay marriage and have always considered homosexual behavior gravely sinful (and have always believed that homosexual persons should be treated with dignity). Their position on homosexual issues is identical to that of the Catholic Church, so far as I can tell.
 
I wonder what these people trying to defend traditional marriage are doing to make divorce difficult and remarriage afterwards nearly impossible?
 
PaulDupre said:
Why do you say that? Mormons have always been against gay marriage and have always considered homosexual behavior gravely sinful (and have always believed that homosexual persons should be treated with dignity). Their position on homosexual issues is identical to that of the Catholic Church, so far as I can tell.
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…they used to practice, and some who still identify as mormons, an alternative definition of marriage in the form of bigamy and polygamy.
 
onetimeposter said:
…they used to practice, and some who still identify as mormons, an alternative definition of marriage in the form of bigamy and polygamy.
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Yes, but we Mormons never would have pitched a fit if the Federal Government had refused to legally recognize plural marriages. We would have been happy if the authorities had just left them alone and not thrown them in jail and seized their property.

If society wants to give special legal status to certain social arrangements called “marriage,” because they think marriage provides everyone some kind of benefit, then society has to decide what is defined as a “marriage.” So we get together and figure out which kinds of social arrangements we think provide this kind of benefit, and draw up the laws.

But if some groups want to have their own social arrangements that are not legally binding, who cares? I don’t care if gay people want to hold marriage ceremonies for them and their partners. I do care, on the other hand, about keeping the state-sanctioned definition of marriage to something I think benefits society.

So my message is:
  1. Not legally recognizing plural marriage is fine. Society has to make some decisions about what is defined as a marriage, after all.
  2. Hunting down and jailing people who have their own, non-legally binding, private plural marriage ceremonies is religious persecution.
  3. Not legally recognizing gay marriage is fine.
  4. Hunting down and jailing gays who have their own, non-legally binding, private marriage ceremonies is persecution.
So I think the Mormons are being completely consistent on this. Nobody is stopping gays from getting married. We just don’t think those marriages give the same benefit to society, so we don’t want them to have the same legal status.
 
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