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Syele
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I have a friend who is Mormon. Lately she keeps attending Protestant churches and putting her kids in Missionettes, Royal Rangers and AWANAS. IS that even allowed by her church? Will she get in trouble with her Bishop?
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LittleDeb
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That does sound strange. I would guess it would seem a bit disloyal to the LDS. I don’t know at what level she could “get in trouble.” Her bishop could revoke her temple recommend or worse yet start excommunication proceedings. Both are serious consequences and not used lightly. I hope an LDS will chime in here.
From what I understand they need to be at Sacrament meeting at least once a month to maintain a temple recommend.
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christianley
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Sounds like she is waking up. She will not get in trouble for attending or even joining another church although she would not get her temple recommend renewed. It doesn’t sound like she would care at this point since it looks to me as if she’s beginning to make a move towards the real Jesus. Maybe at some point she’ll be able to accept the fulness of the Gospel and come to the Catholic Church, but we can celebrate the fact she will now be worshiping the Trinity rather than the Mormon Gods.
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tundramom
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Well Hallelujah! Missionettes was my first activity away from Mormonism. My daughter, who was 3 at the time came home and announced “Jesus is my best friend!” with such enthusiasm that I started looking into what she was talking about.
A few years later, after attending the Assembly of God, I came home to the Catholic church and am so absolutely blessed that my entire immediate family is now Cahtolic and we worship the one true God together.
in Christ
Steph
A few years later, after attending the Assembly of God, I came home to the Catholic church and am so absolutely blessed that my entire immediate family is now Cahtolic and we worship the one true God together.
in Christ
Steph
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Alma147
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A bishop wouldn’t revoke a ward member’s recommend or start excommunication proceedings for attending another church or sending children to programs in another faith. If a member has a recommend and ceases attending Church, it wouldn’t get renewed, but I really doubt it would be revoked unless this were part of other behavior such as proselytizing against the LDS faith.
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LittleDeb
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This is a good point. I wasn’t sure at what level an LDS could “get into trouble” with their bishop. These were the only ways I had ever heard of disciplining wayward LDS. It makes sense that He wouldn’t revoke, just not renew. I would guess that a person who was considering leaving the LDS church would not want a temple recommend meeting anyway.
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Syele
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While I hope you are all right about her seeing the light and leaving the LDS Church… I have doubts. She suddenly started do all this about the same time she found out her ward wasn’t going to pay all her bills and rent anymore.
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Karin
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ah so she is looking for a handout…well perhaps she will get her handout and learn the “truth” along the way…we can pray!
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Syele
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Do they consider it a sin to miss church?
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Alma147
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I think that rather than a sin, it’s a missed opportunity to learn and grow in faith and to strengthen others. We also believe that God has commanded to take communion often as a means of reminding us of the covenants we made at baptism.
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PaulDupre
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As I recall, in every temple recommend interview the bishop asked “Do you attend all of your meetings?”. If not attending all meetings is grounds for refusing a temple recommend, then the LDS must consider it a sin.
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Karin
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let me get this straight you have to interviewed and pass this interview process to enter the Church??
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tundramom
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No Karin,
Just to enter the temple. There’s a differnece between the temple and the church. The temple, in order to attend one must be “worthy” according to the bishop and the stake president.
Just to enter the temple. There’s a differnece between the temple and the church. The temple, in order to attend one must be “worthy” according to the bishop and the stake president.
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PaulDupre
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There is an interview process that takes place before one can be baptised into the Mormon Church. But this interview is very light-weight. The bishop just wants to be sure that you have no evil ulterior motive for desiring baptism.
What I was writing about was the interview necessary to get a “temple recommend”, which is a little piece of paper signed by your bishop that you must show to gain admission to the temple. The temple is not the local meetinghouse, but rather a place where the secret masonic ceremonies are carried out, both for the living and on behalf of the dead. In the temple, the most “worthy” Mormons are taught the secret handshakes and passwords they will need to get into heaven.
This interview is quite in-depth.
The bishop typically asks:
Do you pay a full tithe?
Are you are morally pure? (and the follow-up questions here can get very specific)
Do you attend all your meetings?
Do you fulfill all of your callings (church volunteer jobs) completely?
Do you associate with any apostates or apostate groups?
Are you are honest in all your dealings? and
Are there are any other factors in your life which would disqualify you from temple attendance?
When I first went through these interviews, I thought that the temple must be the safest place on earth, since all of the people who went there were so virtuous and above reproach. But when I attended the temple, I was given a padlock for my locker because, they told us, there is so much theft of personal property in the temple and we didn’t want to tempt anyone.
God love you,
Paul
What I was writing about was the interview necessary to get a “temple recommend”, which is a little piece of paper signed by your bishop that you must show to gain admission to the temple. The temple is not the local meetinghouse, but rather a place where the secret masonic ceremonies are carried out, both for the living and on behalf of the dead. In the temple, the most “worthy” Mormons are taught the secret handshakes and passwords they will need to get into heaven.
This interview is quite in-depth.
The bishop typically asks:
Do you pay a full tithe?
Are you are morally pure? (and the follow-up questions here can get very specific)
Do you attend all your meetings?
Do you fulfill all of your callings (church volunteer jobs) completely?
Do you associate with any apostates or apostate groups?
Are you are honest in all your dealings? and
Are there are any other factors in your life which would disqualify you from temple attendance?
When I first went through these interviews, I thought that the temple must be the safest place on earth, since all of the people who went there were so virtuous and above reproach. But when I attended the temple, I was given a padlock for my locker because, they told us, there is so much theft of personal property in the temple and we didn’t want to tempt anyone.
God love you,
Paul
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Syele
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So this question would affect my friend as much as the not attending meetings would? As far as I can tell her purpose for attending my Church is to be disruptive and make certian I can’t hear the sermons or Worship without interruption.
But at any rate, it means she is at my Church on Sundays and Wednesdays.
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Alma147
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I’ve been in a position to give temple recommend interviews for most of the past 20 years, and the list of questions is not as expansive as indicated above. There never has been a question about whether or not you fulfill all your callings or if you attend all your meetings. The question is whether or not you attend sacrament meeting and priesthood meeting. The word in relation to apostate groups is “affilliate” rather than “associate.”The bishop typically asks:
Do you pay a full tithe?
Are you are morally pure? (and the follow-up questions here can get very specific)
Do you attend all your meetings?
Do you fulfill all of your callings (church volunteer jobs) completely?
Do you associate with any apostates or apostate groups?
Are you are honest in all your dealings? and
Are there are any other factors in your life which would disqualify you from temple attendance?
When I first went through these interviews, I thought that the temple must be the safest place on earth, since all of the people who went there were so virtuous and above reproach. But when I attended the temple, I was given a padlock for my locker because, they told us, there is so much theft of personal property in the temple and we didn’t want to tempt anyone.
God love you,
Paul
Also having worked in the temple for quite some time, I’m not aware of any instance of theft of personal property in the temple. I suspect either your recollection is faulty or you misunderstood what you were told. I’ve been to a lot of temples and have yet to be issued a padlock–there are lockers with keys, but given that some people will lie to get into the temple, I’d imagine those people would also steal if given the chance.
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Karin
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Interview Questions for Recommends to Enter a Temple
**Date: July 13, 2000 00:08:39
The First Presidency issued some new questions last Spring. It’s so hard to keep up with knowing what God wants us to know in order to attend his temple. Here they are. I should know since I have been through them approx 100 times this past year: **
1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?
2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?
3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?
4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?
5 Do you live the law of chastity?
6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?
7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?
9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?
10 Are you a full-tithe payer?
11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?
12 Do you have financial or other oblgations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?
13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:
Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?
14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?
15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord’s house and participate in temple ordinances?
lds-mormon.com/veilworker/recommend.shtml
**Date: July 13, 2000 00:08:39
The First Presidency issued some new questions last Spring. It’s so hard to keep up with knowing what God wants us to know in order to attend his temple. Here they are. I should know since I have been through them approx 100 times this past year: **
1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?
2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?
3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?
4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?
5 Do you live the law of chastity?
6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?
7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?
9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?
10 Are you a full-tithe payer?
11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?
12 Do you have financial or other oblgations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?
13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:
Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?
14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?
15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord’s house and participate in temple ordinances?
lds-mormon.com/veilworker/recommend.shtml
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tundramom
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Aw bologna “Alma”. The questions are certainly expansive if not more so than Paul described. At the age of 14, I learned what masturbation was from the local bishop of my ward because he asked me if I engaged in it. I didn’t even know what he was talking about, so he continued to enlighten me.
Your church is not as upright as you claim it to be.
in Christ
Steph
Your church is not as upright as you claim it to be.
in Christ
Steph
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BlestOne
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Ohhhh My! That is quite a list of questions isn’t it? Wow, I never realized how many requirements there are to be an LDS…
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majick275
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those questions are the standard ones to get a temple recomend. The interviewer may ask additional questions or consolidate some of those as see fit. There is no “checklist”, either the interviewer signs the recomend or they do not. that is the only documentation done. If they sign at the ward level and the member signs it still has to be signed (in another interview with the same questions) by a member of the stake presidency. Only then is the recomend valid. it’s good for two years though. (it’s pretty rare for preisthood leaders to ask for it back/revoke it unless as part of church discipline like disfellowshipment or excommunication)
The LDS church is really big on interviews though. In addition to temple recomend interviews there are interviews semiannually for youth and singles, PPI’s (personal priesthood interviews) for anyone in priesthood leadership positions and all home teachers. There are “ad hoc” interviews based on reports from home teachers, visiting teachers and/or youth leaders. Interviews to go on a mission, interviews with recomend for patriarchal blessings, baptism/confirmation, receiving a calling and a few others for the youth that I can’t remember specifically. (young women excellence, duty to God, etc. that kind of stuff)
The home teachers and visiting teachers are supposed to return and report on the status and needs of their assigned families, as are the single adult leaders and bishops youth council. There is a weekly missionary report too to report on any investiagtors and the welfare committee to report on the needs of those in financial need.
Much of that is necessary and good to identify legitimate needs and assign proper resources but some if it is just flat out control. it gets a little eery sometimes, especially if it’s church disciplinary councils.
The LDS church is really big on interviews though. In addition to temple recomend interviews there are interviews semiannually for youth and singles, PPI’s (personal priesthood interviews) for anyone in priesthood leadership positions and all home teachers. There are “ad hoc” interviews based on reports from home teachers, visiting teachers and/or youth leaders. Interviews to go on a mission, interviews with recomend for patriarchal blessings, baptism/confirmation, receiving a calling and a few others for the youth that I can’t remember specifically. (young women excellence, duty to God, etc. that kind of stuff)
The home teachers and visiting teachers are supposed to return and report on the status and needs of their assigned families, as are the single adult leaders and bishops youth council. There is a weekly missionary report too to report on any investiagtors and the welfare committee to report on the needs of those in financial need.
Much of that is necessary and good to identify legitimate needs and assign proper resources but some if it is just flat out control. it gets a little eery sometimes, especially if it’s church disciplinary councils.
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