Mortal sin

[Matt_707]

Hi everyone,

I hope you all are having a blessed Lent. My question is this… For a sin to be mortal, does one have to turn from the Church completely? If someone still puts up a fight against the sin and trully does not wish to offend God, is it mortal? I know the three rules of mortal sins, etc… I’m just trying to get a clear answer.

Thank you guys so much. God Bless you!

-Matt

 

[Abenadar]

For a sin to be mortal, does one have to turn from the Church completely?

It’s not about “turning from the Church”, it’s about turning from God. A mortal sin deprives us of sanctifying grace. When you say “does one have to turn from the Church completely”, it doesn’t really make sense, because seperation/turning from God is the result, not the prerequisite.

If someone still puts up a fight against the sin and trully does not wish to offend God, is it mortal?

If you put up a fight, you’ll either win, or you’ll lose. That is, you’ll either conquer the temptation or you’ll give into it. If you truly don’t want to offend God but, knowing full well, that the act is sinful, you do it anyway, that doesn’t really show a person who “truly does not wish to offend God”, does it?

 

[Seamus_L]

It’s not a good practice to ponder over whether or not a sin is mortal because it may not have had your full consent. The important thing to do is to get to confession as soon as possible so it doesn’t fester away like cancer within you.

 

[rinnie]

Hi everyone,

I hope you all are having a blessed Lent. My question is this… For a sin to be mortal, does one have to turn from the Church completely? If someone still puts up a fight against the sin and trully does not wish to offend God, is it mortal? I know the three rules of mortal sins, etc… I’m just trying to get a clear answer.

Thank you guys so much. God Bless you!

-Matt

The way I see it, when you know you are wrong, and God knows you are wrong rules really do not apply. Its mortal sin, and you want to be free from it as soon as possible. Thats where confession comes in to cleanse you from the sin, and replace that sin with grace which is power to fight the sin.

 

[Matt_707]

Thank you all… My question is answered.

I’ll be at confession ASAP.

God Bless.

 

[rinnie]

Thank you all… My question is answered.

I’ll be at confession ASAP.

God Bless.

Good for you my Love, and God Bless you. And I like you gotta get there myself. Lent is one of the best times to go for me. I think when I see the suffering of Jesus I wonder how much of it was I personally responsible for myself. It makes me see how many times I put him on that cross myself with my own sin, and how he suffered for my sin for he had none. God bless you for your question, and giving me a reality check also.

 

[Bluegoat]

I don’t think it can hurt to confess it if you are unsure.

But theoretically, if for some reason your ability to resist the sin is inadequate, I think culpability is lessened. We recognize this with addicts, for example. But this can be true of many kinds of sin, for example some people have a really hard time controlling their anger, while others are by nature placid. So the sin of wrath could have quite different connotations for those individuals.

 

[Bookcat]

From the Compendium of the Catechism

1. When does one commit a mortal sin?

1855-1861
1874

One commits a mortal sin when there are simultaneously present: grave matter, full knowledge, and deliberate consent. This sin destroys charity in us, deprives us of sanctifying grace, and, if unrepented, leads us to the eternal death of hell. It can be forgiven in the ordinary way by means of the sacraments of Baptism and of Penance or Reconciliation.

1. When does one commit a venial sin?

1862-1864
1875

One commits a venial sin, which is essentially different from a mortal sin, when the matter involved is less serious or, even if it is grave, when full knowledge or complete consent are absent. Venial sin does not break the covenant with God but it weakens charity and manifests a disordered affection for created goods. It impedes the progress of a soul in the exercise of the virtues and in the practice of moral good. It merits temporal punishment which purifies.

 

[Monica4316]

If you put up a fight, you’ll either win, or you’ll lose. That is, you’ll either conquer the temptation or you’ll give into it. If you truly don’t want to offend God but, knowing full well, that the act is sinful, you do it anyway, that doesn’t really show a person who “truly does not wish to offend God”, does it?

what if the reason you give in to the temptation is because you try your best to fight it, but are unable to? for example, with thoughts… (I think actions always require some sort of choice)… but what if you’re getting intrusive thoughts that you don’t want, but feel very strongly and can’t always resist them?

 

[spn82756]

what if the reason you give in to the temptation is because you try your best to fight it, but are unable to? for example, with thoughts… (I think actions always require some sort of choice)… but what if you’re getting intrusive thoughts that you don’t want, but feel very strongly and can’t always resist them?

I think bluegoat addressed that in post 7.

 

[Bookcat]

what if the reason you give in to the temptation is because you try your best to fight it, but are unable to? for example, with thoughts… (I think actions always require some sort of choice)… but what if you’re getting intrusive thoughts that you don’t want, but feel very strongly and can’t always resist them?

Monica… remember …just cause they happen to you …even very strongly…does NOT mean one has consented to them…

rather remember the post i posted regarding signs of not consenting…