Mortal Sin

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This might not be the right place to place this, sorry if this is so.

If I know someone who is committing a grave sin without knowing that it is grave, and which is would take a long time to get free of, should I tell them that it is gravely sinful or work my way up to the point where he can better get free of it? Thanks;)
 
If you are going to confront another person about his or her own problems make sure you don’t have any so-called logs in your own eye first. Christ talks about taking wooden beams out of our eyes before we start nitpicking and telling others to take that splinter out of there eye. After you see that you have no “logs” in your eyes than arm yourself with Holy Scripture and present him Jesus’ words so he can make the conclusion that you are sincerely concerned about him/ her but that you don’t speak on your own behalf.
 
“Open rebuke is better then hidden love.” (Prov 27:5)

This came from a papal document, I do not recall which one: The pain of the informed conscience with judging someone “falls” on the person who fails to welcome the other person out of pride, or refuses to forgive the other person.
 
AveMaria12 said:
This might not be the right place to place this, sorry if this is so.

If I know someone who is committing a grave sin without knowing that it is grave, and which is would take a long time to get free of, should I tell them that it is gravely sinful or work my way up to the point where he can better get free of it? Thanks;)
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If it were I…Id tell them.

Its up to him/her to decide to…Go and sin no more.

Ezekiel 3:18-19

When I say to a wicked person, ‘You will surely die, ’ and you do not warn them or speak out to dissuade them from their evil ways in order to save their life, that wicked person will die for[a] their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood. 19 But if you do warn the wicked person and they do not turn from their wickedness or from their evil ways, they will die for their sin; but you will have saved yourself.
 
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This came from a papal document, I do not recall which one:
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I found it. It is in the Apostolic Exhortation, Vita Consecrata, by Pope John Paul II, we read in number 42, “among his disciples, (those who try to strive to learn the teachings of Jesus) there can be no true unity without that unconditional mutual love which demands a readiness to serve others generously, a willingness to welcome them as they are, without ‘judging’ them (cf. Mt 7:1-2), and an ability to forgive up to ‘seventy times seven’ (Mt 18:22).” vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/apost_exhortations/documents/hf_jp-ii_exh_25031996_vita-consecrata_en.html

"Bear not the yoke with unbelievers. For what participation hath justice with injustice? Or what fellowship hath light with darkness? " (2 Cor 6:14)
 
animalis said:
“Open rebuke is better then hidden love.” (Prov 27:5)

This came from a papal document, I do not recall which one: The pain of the informed conscience with judging someone “falls” on the person who fails to welcome the other person out of pride, or refuses to forgive the other person.
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It’s not that I’m hiding it away from him, I already told him that it is wrong several times, but I haven’t told him it was gravely sinful yet.

Could you help me with that?
 
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Could you help me with that?
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This seems difficult. Would you say that he or she is a disciple?It would seem that would make the difference in this. Here are some postive insights:

You may of heard this scripture from Romans 10, “For if thou confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in thy heart that God raised him up from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For, with the heart, we believe unto justice; but, with the mouth, confession is made unto salvation.” (Rom 10:9,10) Let’s look into the Catholic insight into this scripture with the greatest catholic teacher, St. Thomas Aquinas (click here to see why he is the greatest vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_academies/san-tommaso/pastmagisterium.html)

In S. Thomas’s commentary of Romans, we read, “Three kinds of confession are necessary for salvaton. First, the confession of one’s own inquity: 'I said, ‘I will confess my transgressions to the Lord’ (Ps 32:5), which is the confession of the repentant. The second is that by which a man confesses the goodness of God mercifully bestowing his benefits: ‘Sing to the Lord a new song, for he has done marvelous things’ (Ps 98:11) and this is the confession of one giving thanks. The third is the confession of divine truth: ‘Everyone who confesses me before men, I will also confess before my Father who is in heaven’ (Mt 10:32) and this is the confession of the believer, about which the Apostle is now speaking. This confession is necessary for salvation, depending on circumstances of place and time, namely when one’s faith is demanded, namely, by a persecutor of the faith, as when the faith is endangered by alien [belief]…What is said about confessing the faith applies to all virtuous acts necessary for salvation according to circumstances of time and place. For the precepts commanding the performance of these acts oblige us always but not for every moment of the day.”(Com. Rom, n. 832) catenas.wetpaint.com/page/Chapter+10

To speak about the three things that S. Thomas speaks of when we hear confession for salvation could be reiterated to the person you are struggling with. This way you do not drive the person to despair but to hope.

For further help read this by St. Josemaria escrivaworks.org/book/christ_is_passing_by/point/134 I believe it to be a good introduction the Catholic faith, to those who need a re-awakening.
 
Well, what’s wrong with telling him that it’s a mortal sin? It wouldn’t be sinful for you to do so, but if it were I who was in your situation, I would first see if I have his problem then talk to him to avoid being a hypocrite. Otherwise, not telling him that it is a grave sin would do more harm than the latter. 🙂
 
Well it’s about contraception, and I’m only 16, so I’m quite sure it’s not hypocritical.🙂
It’s just that I fear it might not be prudent. St. Benedict says that to make a good correction, one must do it in the right disposition, right action, and RIGHT TIME.
 
It’s like constructive criticism. They may not even know that it is a mortal sin, so telling them it might be is your best option. It will only benefit them.
 
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