Mortal Sin

[Zimm3r]

I guess this post could also be titled “Your burning in hell!” because that is what mortal sin guarantees a one way trip to hell no mercy no nothing. I find this incredibly disturbing and just plain awful especially seeing so many people here when they say “few people are saved” (as though they are happy after all those people who go to hell deserve it (course they assume they are going to heaven their GOOD catholics)). So first off the arrogance of people to dictate to others and second a recent thread ask who was a better catholic, someone who was nice and charitable and wonderful BUT supported contraception and so went against church dogma or a rotten person who was not nice, not charitable, but followed all the rules and so many people condemn the first person and defended the second person! WHAT?!?!?!

Anyways I see so much of this your burning in hell that is a mortal sin, isn’t mortal sin something gravely serious that is suppose to detach yourself FULLY from god would seem their would be very few things that could do that…

BUT

You miss church on sunday… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You recognize someone is pretty that is lust… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You lie that is against a commandment… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You say God or Jesus in anger… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You have sex, that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You get angry that is hurting some else… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You support abortion options… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You get an abortion… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You support the death penalty… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You punch your brother/sister that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You think negatively that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You disagree with the church (how could that be! ) that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
etc…

All these things cause you ** BURN IN HELL FOR ETERNITY **!!! I don’t get it! This is horrible and yet people seem to say it with such happiness and pride oh ya you just committed a mortal sin too bad for you luckily IM a goody two shoes! Such arrogance!

 

[Saintlucy]

Your what is burning in hell?

 

[Other_Eric]

I guess this post could also be titled “Your burning in hell!” because that is what mortal sin guarantees a one way trip to hell no mercy no nothing. I find this incredibly disturbing and just plain awful especially seeing so many people here when they say “few people are saved” (as though they are happy after all those people who go to hell deserve it (course they assume they are going to heaven their GOOD catholics)). So first off the arrogance of people to dictate to others and second a recent thread ask who was a better catholic, someone who was nice and charitable and wonderful BUT supported contraception and so went against church dogma or a rotten person who was not nice, not charitable, but followed all the rules and so many people condemn the first person and defended the second person! WHAT?!?!?!

Anyways I see so much of this your burning in hell that is a mortal sin, isn’t mortal sin something gravely serious that is suppose to detach yourself FULLY from god would seem their would be very few things that could do that…

BUT

You miss church on sunday… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You recognize someone is pretty that is lust… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You lie that is against a commandment… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You say God or Jesus in anger… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You have sex, that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You get angry that is hurting some else… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You support abortion options… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You get an abortion… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You support the death penalty… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You punch your brother/sister that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You think negatively that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You disagree with the church (how could that be! ) that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
etc…

All these things cause you ** BURN IN HELL FOR ETERNITY ** !!! I don’t get it! This is horrible and yet people seem to say it with such happiness and pride oh ya you just committed a mortal sin too bad for you luckily IM a goody two shoes! Such arrogance!

The Church articulates certain standards in order to realize eternal life. If you fall outside of those standards, you come to eternal death. Why is that so hard? Further, read Aquinas: the saints in heaven rejoice in the damnation and eternal torture of souls since this is God’s perfect justice made manifest. Why, therefore, should those of us laboring under the yoke of Christ not also take pleasure from the impending fate of the obstinate sinner?

 

[Trishie]

Only God can say how many people are saved.
Nor does God rejoice in the loss of a soul and nor should we put ourselves against God in desiring that.
In Ezekiel 18:31-32 , the word of God
“Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, people of Israel? 32 For** I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign Lord. Repent and live**!”

Where people do sin, hell is not a guaranteed outcome.
As long as a person lives he or she may still repent of their sin. One of the thieves crucified with Jesus repented as he hung beside Jesus…and Jesus said to him, “I assure you, today you will be with me in paradise.” He repented at the end of his life and was given salvation.

Jesus is judge of souls, no other person. Jesus described the judgement of souls in Matthew 25 verses 31-46, with understanding that sin is a lack of, and a rejection of, charity in some form, and if a person does not live in practical loving kindness to others, and refuses to repent and to try to live in practical kindness to others, (which Jesus states is also kindness to God) then a person has by their own choice chosen hell, which is existence without love because they rejected love in the way lived.

And recognizing someone is pretty isn’t sinful, it’s observation, yes some people are especially attractive. And in fact some of the things you mention are a bit over the top! You are angry with someone or punch your brother…well you apologize to your brother, and resolve the issue that is causing anger, and try to be more calm in future. You try to consider his feelings and point of view as well as your own.

With every day come new chances to try again. God knows we are human, and far from ‘perfect’, but He certainly wishes us to keep trying to be thoughtful and charitable. And yes, He doesn’t want us to murder anyone including an innocent baby, that child is a gift and has his or her own right to live, just as we have. Certainly some have had abortions, and have found repentance and forgiveness.

And yes, some people who come here are very scrupulous and see serious sin where it clearly isn’t.
God is a God of love, not fear, but there are those who live more in fear than in trust, or are simply not fully catechized.

God’s blessings to you.

 

[LilyM]

I guess this post could also be titled “Your burning in hell!” because that is what mortal sin guarantees a one way trip to hell no mercy no nothing. I find this incredibly disturbing and just plain awful especially seeing so many people here when they say “few people are saved” (as though they are happy after all those people who go to hell deserve it (course they assume they are going to heaven their GOOD catholics)). So first off the arrogance of people to dictate to others and second a recent thread ask who was a better catholic, someone who was nice and charitable and wonderful BUT supported contraception and so went against church dogma or a rotten person who was not nice, not charitable, but followed all the rules and so many people condemn the first person and defended the second person! WHAT?!?!?!

Anyways I see so much of this your burning in hell that is a mortal sin, isn’t mortal sin something gravely serious that is suppose to detach yourself FULLY from god would seem their would be very few things that could do that…

BUT

You miss church on sunday… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You recognize someone is pretty that is lust… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You lie that is against a commandment… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You say God or Jesus in anger… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You have sex, that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You get angry that is hurting some else… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You support abortion options… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You get an abortion… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You support the death penalty… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You punch your brother/sister that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You think negatively that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You disagree with the church (how could that be! ) that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
etc…

All these things cause you ** BURN IN HELL FOR ETERNITY ** !!! I don’t get it! This is horrible and yet people seem to say it with such happiness and pride oh ya you just committed a mortal sin too bad for you luckily IM a goody two shoes! Such arrogance!

There’s no excuse for not being nice … ever, for any reason. But what on earth makes you think anyone is happy about it? It’s like accusing someone who says ‘lots of smokers die of smoking-related illness’ of being happy about it merely because they point out an obvious, though deeply unpleasant and in fact distressing, fact!

However, you are being just a tad melodramatic. Having sex is most certainly not a sin … where do you think those big families Catholics are notorious for come from?

And do you really think lying, anger and violence are such wonderful things that they should NOT be discouraged by any means possible? Do you really WANT the ‘freedom’ to be lied to, abused and hit by anyone who has a mind to do something awful to you? Even non-religious law punishes such things, and often harshly.

But more importantly, you are showing a surprising amount of ignorance about Catholic teaching on sin for someone so obsessed by it.

These things (or most of them) are considered what is called ‘grave matter’. That means that IF you know they are grave matter, and knowing that freely choose to do them anyway, then, and ONLY then, are they mortal sins.

Which is only right. If someone hits you by mistake, not realising that it hurts you and is a bad thing to do (say a six-month-old child hits you) then you won’t hold them responsible, will you? You won’t punish them in any way.

But if that child is old enough to understand, and you tell them, not just once but time and time again, and they persist and hit you, then aren’t you going to punish them? Of course you are. They knew it was wrong, deeply wrong, and chose to do it anyway.

 

[Other_Eric]

There’s no excuse for not being nice … ever, for any reason.

I invite you to read a biography of St. Jerome. A man who was indeed not very nice but is now recognized to be in heaven. You may wish to reconsider, since it appears you are in disagreement with Holy Mother Church.

 

[LilyM]

I invite you to read a biography of St. Jerome. A man who was indeed not very nice but is now recognized to be in heaven. You may wish to reconsider, since it appears you are in disagreement with Holy Mother Church.

I’m very familiar with St Jerome - in fact he was from the same part of the world as my family. I invite you in turn to read his story again, this time more carefully. He did have a temper, but - and this is the important bit - struggled to overcome it and repented of his outbursts when they did occur.

What you’re saying is like saying that St Augustine became a saint because of his sexual sins, or St Peter because of his denial of Our Lord, and that their canonisation means the Church’s teaching endorses sexual sin or denying Christ. :bigyikes: :nope:

Saints become saints in spite of their sins, by their repentance and struggles, as the three greats that I have named did. But not because of them. Nor does the canonisation mean the Church endorses their sins.

 

[IanGE]

In Matthew 5 Jesus sheds new light on Sin, linking what men consider trivial or venial to what they see as Mortal. While teaching us the Lord’s Prayer, Jesus is reported in Greek to have used the word “hamartias” for ‘sins’. This gentle word means “missing the mark”. I presume that “the mark” is love: anyone committing an unloving act, anything from shouting at the missis to mass murder, grieves God. I won’t be surprised to see Hitler and Ghengiz Khan up there when I get to Heaven: they might easily have said “God Forgive me” with their dying breath. And in any case, Hitler was a Catholic .
It is to be remembered that Jesus forgave the adultrous woman, the thief on the cross and finally, in the midst of His dying agony, His murderers: “Father forgive them for they know not what they do.” Another awesome thought is that Jesus is descended from Solomon, adulterous son of David (Matt. 1:6). But then, God’s love, agapa, is awesome.
PS I KNOW I’m going to Heaven when I die because Jesus promised. All Charismatics understand this and say contemptuously with St. Paul (1 Cor 15:56): “O Death where is thy sting?” A big one less to worry about! Except, of course: Lord, please don’t let it hurt!"

 

[JRKH]

I guess this post could also be titled “Your burning in hell!” because that is what mortal sin guarantees a one way trip to hell no mercy no nothing. I find this incredibly disturbing and just plain awful especially seeing so many people here when they say “few people are saved” (as though they are happy after all those people who go to hell deserve it (course they assume they are going to heaven their GOOD catholics)). So first off the arrogance of people to dictate to others and second a recent thread ask who was a better catholic, someone who was nice and charitable and wonderful BUT supported contraception and so went against church dogma or a rotten person who was not nice, not charitable, but followed all the rules and so many people condemn the first person and defended the second person! WHAT?!?!?!

Anyways I see so much of this your burning in hell that is a mortal sin, isn’t mortal sin something gravely serious that is suppose to detach yourself FULLY from god would seem their would be very few things that could do that…

BUT

You miss church on sunday… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You recognize someone is pretty that is lust… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You lie that is against a commandment… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You say God or Jesus in anger… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You have sex, that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You get angry that is hurting some else… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You support abortion options… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You get an abortion… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You support the death penalty… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You punch your brother/sister that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You think negatively that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You disagree with the church (how could that be! ) that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
etc…

All these things cause you ** BURN IN HELL FOR ETERNITY ** !!! I don’t get it! This is horrible and yet people seem to say it with such happiness and pride oh ya you just committed a mortal sin too bad for you luckily IM a goody two shoes! Such arrogance!

Zimm3r,
I can understand your frustration. I see some of this too and it can be frustrating. that said, I would like to address a couple of things.

1. The first thing I note is a sense that you seem to read a certain amount of “emotion” into what you read. In your last sentence you refer to people who respond “such happiness and pride” at pointing out to another that they are in mortal sin. Yet try as I might, I just can’t seem to “see” that much emotion in the written words of others. Yes there are occasions where a person is obviously being sarcastic or snide or otherwise uncharitable, but in most cases we cannot “read” the tone, inflection, volume or other emotional indicators of the person responding. So in truth we cannot say that such a person is “happy” or even “prideful” in their comments.
   More often we “read into” a comment some emotion that may or may not be there. I’ve done this myself…
2. As good Catholics trying to give help and support to fellow Catholics on an open and public forum, we are constrained in certain ways. Primarily we are constrained to properly articulate Church teaching for the benefit of the many as well as the one. If any of us feel there are particular mitigating circumstances it is best to take such conversation out of the public forum and into PM’s. Publicly you will often see us recommend that a person talk over the particulars with their confessor…
3. With regards to the list in your OP. It is easy to throw out such a list - which of course represents a “normative” approach. Yet conveniently ignores the very real fat that there is, in nearly all cases, exceptions that can be considered. I have not attended a Sunday mass in probably 3 months because of health issues. I am not in mortal sin because I am dispensed of the obligation by my Pastor and confessor. Many other “obligations” can likewise be set aside in circumstances outside of the norm.
   Such exceptions are what prevents the Church from becoming a “dead” set of rules with no heart. Within the Church there is a way to both be imperfect, and yet grow, to struggle and fall and yet git up and move on…She is a beautiful thing this Church of God called Catholic.

But more importantly - as relating to your list - is that it misses the underlying principle of what makes a sin mortal. The rejection of God as Lord of one’s life. There is a huge difference between a person who does not understand the church’s teaching on some matter, but is accepting of it and a person who unrepentantly rejects the Church’s teaching on some matter.
The one struggles to keep God as Lord in their life remains in grace…
The one who rebels - gives up that grace and falls into mortal sin.

Peace
James

 

[Delaine75]

Wow… not sure where you’re seeing this stuff where people are happily proclaiming this, but NO ONE on this earth knows if someone is going to hell except for God Himself. I haven’t seen any of this on these forums. Yes, there are quite a few things considered mortal sin, but we have the chance of Reconciliation as well. It isn’t a case of - OK, you committed a mortal sin, so hahahahahaha, you’re out of luck, buddy! Not the case at all.

 

[Delaine75]

One more thing I’d like to add – 2 Peter 3:9 “…but He is patient with you, not wishing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.” Think about that.

 

[Nelka]

You think negatively that is a mortal sin your burning in hell

Where is this written!?!

 

[RPRPsych]

I think a few things need to be clarified.

First, many - if not most - people have committed a mortal sin at some time in our lives.

Second, there are specific conditions to be fulfilled before a sin can be labelled “mortal”. “Thinking negative thoughts” is certainly not mortal if you’ve been assaulted or abused (or mentally ill, for that matter.) And such phrases are vague. For example, I am pessimistic about the motives of most politicians in my country (which is certainly “negative”!) but I do not harbour thoughts of, say, assassinating them.

Third, only unrepented mortal sins lead to eternal damnation.

Fourth, the quote from Aquinas is pretty much out of context. Saints in Heaven do not gloat over souls in hell; they rejoice that they (though all unworthy in some way or the other) have been saved by God’s grace, and that His justice has been demonstrated.

 

[Holly3278]

Not all of the things that you mentioned are mortal sins just so you know. That said, God is infinitely just. Therefore, He cannot let a person who dies in a state of mortal sin go unpunished. Would it be right if He let an unrepentant murderer into Heaven? No, it would not be. Would it be right if God let a person who got an abortion but is unrepentant into Heaven? Of course not! Abortion is murder after all.

Perhaps you should meditate more on the justice of God. He is infinitely merciful but He is also infinitely just and He cannot stand sin. He cannot allow a person with sin on their consciences into Heaven. Therefore, if a person dies in a state of mortal sin then they are going to Hell. If a person dies with venial sin on their consciences then they won’t go to Hell but they will have to be purified of their venial sin in Purgatory.

God did not die on the cross for nothing. If He was willing to undergo such a cruel torture and death for our salvation then how dare we think He is unjust by letting a person with unrepentant mortal sin on their soul go to Hell.

 

[Deo_Gratias42]

Using “your” when you should be using “you’re,” oooh, you’re definitely going to Hell for that.

There are conditions necessary for someone to actually be guilty of mortal sin. While we cannot judge the interior state of someone (that they are in fact guilty of mortal sin), we can judge a person’s actions as being sinful and gravely sinful if they are. If we commit a mortal sin and die without repenting of it, we can expect eternal damnation. While we can’t put limits on God and his mercy, we can’t presume we’ll pull off a mea culpa in the end and get to go to confession.

When we commit mortal sins, God could pull the plug on us at that moment and we would be up the creek without a paddle, but he lets us work out our salvation here. Those who choose to reject Him and His mercy, then they choose Hell for themselves.

 

[Zimm3r]

Further, read Aquinas: the saints in heaven rejoice in the damnation and eternal torture of souls

That is disgusting they are rejoicing over someone’s eternal pain!

Where people do sin, hell is not a guaranteed outcome.
As long as a person lives he or she may still repent of their sin. One of the thieves crucified with Jesus repented as he hung beside Jesus…and Jesus said to him, “I assure you, today you will be with me in paradise.” He repented at the end of his life and was given salvation.

Except these are considered MORTAL sins which are suppose to send you straight to hell, but how is something considered mortal or venial, what some imaginary line if I try to punch someone and miss venial but if I don’t miss mortal that is such a thin line but that thin line must exist otherwise everything is moral or venial. Sense that thin line exists that means two people could exist one going to purgatory then heaven, the other straight to hell what because of that very thin line. Sin comes from an archery term meaning “to miss the mark” so what Bob missed by 72 feet and 4/1000ths of an inch so gets salvation but his brother Bill missed by 72 feet and 3/1000ths of an inch and so burns in a lake of fire for all eternity!

There’s no excuse for not being nice … ever, for any reason. But what on earth makes you think anyone is happy about it? It’s like accusing someone who says ‘lots of smokers die of smoking-related illness’ of being happy about it merely because they point out an obvious, though deeply unpleasant and in fact distressing, fact!

No I come to that reason because they say it so nonchalantly, almost callously, as though it is just a matter of fact when what they are basically saying is that “right now you are burning in hell if you die!”

And do you really think lying, anger and violence are such wonderful things that they should NOT be discouraged by any means possible? Do you really WANT the ‘freedom’ to be lied to, abused and hit by anyone who has a mind to do something awful to you? Even non-religious law punishes such things, and often harshly.

Never said they were wonderful things but I don’t want even more worse enemy to burn in hell even though she did betray my trust in a major way. Also yes I do want those freedoms. Freedom is wonderful and next to truth is of the utmost importance. Also yes secular law punishes them severely and so religious law but there is a great chasm between that and eternal torture in hell.

These things (or most of them) are considered what is called ‘grave matter’. That means that IF you know they are grave matter, and knowing that freely choose to do them anyway, then, and ONLY then, are they mortal sins.

In this case ignorance is bliss sadly I had people who wanted to educate me on this (why I don’t know!) so now it is. As for freely chosen there are very really scenarios where there is a gun to your head. Most likely it is now and done freely so that is hardly a big caveat.

But if that child is old enough to understand, and you tell them, not just once but time and time again, and they persist and hit you, then aren’t you going to punish them? Of course you are. They knew it was wrong, deeply wrong, and chose to do it anyway.

It is the severity of the punishment that is the issue again the difference between Bob and Bill between mortal and venial.

I’m going to Heaven when I die because Jesus promised. All Charismatics understand this and say contemptuously with St. Paul (1 Cor 15:56): “O Death where is thy sting?” A big one less to worry about! Except, of course: Lord, please don’t let it hurt!"

No you don’t only God knows who is going to heaven and who is going to hell.
Also I do get your point of when you used the example of the adulterous woman, I do like that story, sadly it is fabrication if you look at most bible’s there is a foot note at Jh 7:53 - :11 stating it isn’t in the oldest manuscripts.

But more importantly - as relating to your list - is that it misses the underlying principle of what makes a sin mortal. The rejection of God as Lord of one’s life. There is a huge difference between a person who does not understand the church’s teaching on some matter, but is accepting of it and a person who unrepentantly rejects the Church’s teaching on some matter.

But all sin rejects his love in one way or another so therefore shouldn’t every sin be mortal.

Wow… not sure where you’re seeing this stuff where people are happily proclaiming this, but NO ONE on this earth knows if someone is going to hell except for God Himself. I haven’t seen any of this on these forums. Yes, there are quite a few things considered mortal sin, but we have the chance of Reconciliation as well. It isn’t a case of - OK, you committed a mortal sin, so hahahahahaha, you’re out of luck, buddy! Not the case at all.

No but they say it with such callousness as though not realizing that in fact they are saying that person is going to hell as of that moment.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zimm3r
You think negatively that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
Where is this written!?!

You are wishing ill will against someone god loves that is sinful and you are rejecting god’s love therefore mortal.

ot all of the things that you mentioned are mortal sins just so you know. That said, God is infinitely just. Therefore, He cannot let a person who dies in a state of mortal sin go unpunished. Would it be right if He let an unrepentant murderer into Heaven? No, it would not be. Would it be right if God let a person who got an abortion but is unrepentant into Heaven? Of course not! Abortion is murder after all.

Perhaps you should meditate more on the justice of God. He is infinitely merciful but He is also infinitely just and He cannot stand sin. He cannot allow a person with sin on their consciences into Heaven. Therefore, if a person dies in a state of mortal sin then they are going to Hell. If a person dies with venial sin on their consciences then they won’t go to Hell but they will have to be purified of their venial sin in Purgatory.

God did not die on the cross for nothing. If He was willing to undergo such a cruel torture and death for our salvation then how dare we think He is unjust by letting a person with unrepentant mortal sin on their soul go to Hell.

But the things that are considered mortal and will therefore damn you are so many as to make it seemingly impossible to not commit one in your life and if you forget to confess it then you are damned.

Using “your” when you should be using “you’re,” oooh, you’re definitely going to Hell for that.

D’oh usually pretty good about it, then again it was written at 2 in the morning.

 

[Other_Eric]

I’m very familiar with St Jerome - in fact he was from the same part of the world as my family. I invite you in turn to read his story again, this time more carefully. He did have a temper, but - and this is the important bit - struggled to overcome it and repented of his outbursts when they did occur.

What you’re saying is like saying that St Augustine became a saint because of his sexual sins, or St Peter because of his denial of Our Lord, and that their canonisation means the Church’s teaching endorses sexual sin or denying Christ. :bigyikes: :nope:

Saints become saints in spite of their sins, by their repentance and struggles, as the three greats that I have named did. But not because of them. Nor does the canonisation mean the Church endorses their sins.

I think your reading of Jerome’s biography is simplistic. You haven’t established that his temper in itself was anything he was ashamed of, though it’s true you may find individual instances where he repented of his behavior, that says more about his misuse of his temper in that particular instance than it does about any supposed obligation to be “nice.”

 

[LilyM]

Where do you come up with some of this stuff? It is a serious thing to try to hit someone whether you hit or miss. Remember how Jesus said thinking about adultery was as bad as doing it? Same goes for punching - to attempt is equally wrong whether you connect or not.

 

[bilop]

I guess this post could also be titled “Your burning in hell!” because that is what mortal sin guarantees a one way trip to hell no mercy no nothing. I find this incredibly disturbing and just plain awful especially seeing so many people here when they say “few people are saved” (as though they are happy after all those people who go to hell deserve it (course they assume they are going to heaven their GOOD catholics)). So first off the arrogance of people to dictate to others and second a recent thread ask who was a better catholic, someone who was nice and charitable and wonderful BUT supported contraception and so went against church dogma or a rotten person who was not nice, not charitable, but followed all the rules and so many people condemn the first person and defended the second person! WHAT?!?!?!

Anyways I see so much of this your burning in hell that is a mortal sin, isn’t mortal sin something gravely serious that is suppose to detach yourself FULLY from god would seem their would be very few things that could do that…

BUT

You miss church on sunday… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You recognize someone is pretty that is lust… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You lie that is against a commandment… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You say God or Jesus in anger… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You have sex, that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You get angry that is hurting some else… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You support abortion options… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You get an abortion… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You support the death penalty… that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You punch your brother/sister that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You think negatively that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
You disagree with the church (how could that be! ) that is a mortal sin your burning in hell
etc…

All these things cause you ** BURN IN HELL FOR ETERNITY ** !!! I don’t get it! This is horrible and yet people seem to say it with such happiness and pride oh ya you just committed a mortal sin too bad for you luckily IM a goody two shoes! Such arrogance!

God’s ways our not our ways. He’s the boss, so His rules apply.

He sent His Son and created a Church to teach us the rules. He also gives us infinite chances to repent of our sins before death.

You can literally sin mortally every day of your life and still be saved if you repent and confess and receive absolution before your death. That is God’s infinite Mercy.

If we do not heed God’s word, if we do not avail ourselves of his infinite Mercy, how can we complain if we end up in Hell (which we are all richly deserving of)?

Finally, nice has nothing to do with salvation. Obeying the commandments of God is what matters.

God Bless

 

[Zimm3r]

Where do you come up with some of this stuff? It is a serious thing to try to hit someone whether you hit or miss. Remember how Jesus said thinking about adultery was as bad as doing it? Same goes for punching - to attempt is equally wrong whether you connect or not.

It was a hypothetical to display how silly it could be for one thing to be venial and one to be mortal the point was not that punching and missing or connecting is bad or worse or better but that two things could be very close in their moral state yet one could be venial the other mortal.