Mortal Sins.

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Dying in a state of mortal sin will condemn you to hell?

If you lead a good catholic life, dont commit mortal sins, pray etc.
If you have a weak moment and commit a mortal sin (masturbation) and then die that evening will you go to hell?

Even though you lived a good life, commited one act, realised after what you did but die before you can confess.

I am confused.
 
Unrepentant mortal sins is the key term here.

If one dies before having the opportunity to go to confession but is truly sorry for his or her sin (such is termed an “act of perfect confession”) then it is the same as if her or she went through with the sacrament of reconciliation.

The Lord alone knows if we are truly sorry, and would of course would know if we died unrepentant or not.
 
Unrepentant mortal sins is the key term here.

If one dies before having the opportunity to go to confession but is truly sorry for his or her sin (such is termed an “act of perfect confession”) then it is the same as if her or she went through with the sacrament of reconciliation.

The Lord alone knows if we are truly sorry, and would of course would know if we died unrepentant or not.
Good answer.👍
 
Unrepentant mortal sins is the key term here.

If one dies before having the opportunity to go to confession but is truly sorry for his or her sin (such is termed an “act of perfect confession”) then it is the same as if her or she went through with the sacrament of reconciliation.

The Lord alone knows if we are truly sorry, and would of course would know if we died unrepentant or not.
And Jesus the Good Shepherd can seek one out …even in his last moment…

(so while we ought not to “presume” and we need to take the warnings of Jesus seriously …we also need to live by hope…bearing in mind too his mercy and love …“both and”…of course bottom line is we need to turn to Jesus in all of life…and of course avoid mortal sins…)
 
Unrepentant mortal sins is the key term here.

If one dies before having the opportunity to go to confession but is truly sorry for his or her sin (such is termed an “act of perfect confession”) then it is the same as if her or she went through with the sacrament of reconciliation.

The Lord alone knows if we are truly sorry, and would of course would know if we died unrepentant or not.
So true…

God Bless, GT
 
rest assured God will be just, and give you every chance to repent. I think if you have lived a good life, and then commit a mortal sin and die that evening, there is a good chance that all that time you spent living a good life, will allow you to accept God’s call to repentance at the moment of your death. This might not be the case if you lived your whole life willfully defying God at every opportunity, even though God will still offer you a chance up to your last moment.
 
Dying in a state of mortal sin will condemn you to hell?

If you lead a good catholic life, dont commit mortal sins, pray etc.
If you have a weak moment and commit a mortal sin (masturbation) and then die that evening will you go to hell?

Even though you lived a good life, commited one act, realised after what you did but die before you can confess.

I am confused.
Good and Holy works throughout your life have no merit if you die in a state of unrepented mortal sin.
 
rest assured God will be just, and give you every chance to repent. I think if you have lived a good life, and then commit a mortal sin and die that evening, there is a good chance that all that time you spent living a good life, will allow you to accept God’s call to repentance at the moment of your death. This might not be the case if you lived your whole life willfully defying God at every opportunity, even though God will still offer you a chance up to your last moment.
your last statement is why the church doesn’t say anyone is in hell becuase we really don’t know what happened in the last few seconds of someone’s life.

Just like we don’t say hitler is in hell cause we really don’t know.
 
One is not “condemned to hell” as if God were some hateful task master just waiting to catch you and say “go to hell!”. God doesn’t play “Gotcha!”.

One will go to hell because that is where one chooses to be. The “condemnation” is simply a finding that this is what we have chosen. God does not wish us to go to hell; however, God so honors the gift He gave us - free will - that He will honor our choice, if that be the choice. It is not that God “condemns” us to hell - it is that we do that ourselves. we make the choice to cut ourselves off from God.
 
Dying in a state of mortal sin will condemn you to hell?

If you lead a good catholic life, dont commit mortal sins, pray etc.
If you have a weak moment and commit a mortal sin (masturbation) and then die that evening will you go to hell?

Even though you lived a good life, commited one act, realised after what you did but die before you can confess.

I am confused.
Consider speaking with your Priest about this… He should have some great insights.
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Dying in a state of mortal sin will condemn you to hell?

If you lead a good catholic life, dont commit mortal sins, pray etc.
If you have a weak moment and commit a mortal sin (masturbation) and then die that evening will you go to hell?

Even though you lived a good life, commited one act, realised after what you did but die before you can confess.

I am confused.
My response is just my opinion as I’m not God.

People don’t become damned to Hell to burn for ALL eternity for one act. You go to Hell because you were an evil person and lived an evil, demonic life.

Even if you’re not sorry IMO you’re not going to burn in Hell with murders and rapists just because you pleasured yourself once, IF you really are a good person.

You have to take into account that Hell is for evil demonic souls and demons not people who masturbated once.
 
I can’t help having a gut feeling that something like masturbation isn’t strong enough to commit you to hell. No-one knows these answers though. Its all opinions. God loves you and, if you love God back, the chances are you will be with him when you die.
 
My response is just my opinion as I’m not God.

People don’t become damned to Hell to burn for ALL eternity for one act. You go to Hell because you were an evil person and lived an evil, demonic life.

Even if you’re not sorry IMO you’re not going to burn in Hell with murders and rapists just because you pleasured yourself once, IF you really are a good person.

You have to take into account that Hell is for evil demonic souls and demons not people who masturbated once.
Then you are rejecting Church teachings. Christ gave authority to the Church to teach in matters of faith and morals.
The state of your soul at death determines your destination and not how good or bad you have been during your life. Hell is for all who choose to reject God’s love. By definition committing a mortal sin is rejecting God’s love and dying without repenting the destination is Hell.
A murderer will be saved if he truly repents and asks for God’s mercy and dies in a state of grace whereas a so-called good and holy person throughout their life who commits a mortal sin before death and dies unrepentent will go to Hell.
 
Then you are rejecting Church teachings. Christ gave authority to the Church to teach in matters of faith and morals.
The state of your soul at death determines your destination and not how good or bad you have been during your life. Hell is for all who choose to reject God’s love. By definition committing a mortal sin is rejecting God’s love and dying without repenting the destination is Hell.
A murderer will be saved if he truly repents and asks for God’s mercy and dies in a state of grace whereas a so-called good and holy person throughout their life who commits a mortal sin before death and dies unrepentent will go to Hell.
That’s what scares me.

It would be better to die today than chance another step.
 
That’s what scares me.

It would be better to die today than chance another step.
(of course if one did this oneself…not saying you were saying such!..such could be a mortal sin…)
 
your spiritual state matters more than the external act itself. Jesus taught us to worship “in spirit and in truth” and that our hearts are what truly judge us.

If someone masturbates and then repents afterwards, they may be guilty and need to spend time in purgatory, but I hardly think they will be condemned to hell; the fact that they repented showed that they were not hardened sinners but essentially good souls who still suffered from weakness.

If someone masturbates and thinks this is good and right, having spent a lifetime corrupting their conscience, they are in serious risk of eternal damnation. But this is their own choice, and hell is just where they will become fully conscious of its consequences.

If an otherwise good Catholic tragically decides to masturbation and dies in the act then they may very well have forfeited their eternal salvation, because they had no chance to repent and died in a state where they decided to act against God’s will. What a tragedy that would be!

Many people nowadays - even many (most?) Catholics - because of the prevalence of masturbation simply cannot fathom that it is “enough” to condemn a soul to hell. But really, this is ignorance. Masturbation is one of the most perverted actions a person can do, a complete negation of the meaning of our bodies and the call to love others. It is just more evidence of Original Sin that virtually everyone is guilty of it at some point in their lives, particularly in a society so saturated with perversion. This act encapsulates in a raw and particular way the single decision that warrants hell: choosing my own pleasure against the will of God (and, in doing so, losing all pleasure, joy and happiness forever).
 
That’s what scares me.

It would be better to die today than chance another step.
You sound terrified and troubled by what you see in your own life.

Everything else in this thread has been true and helpful – I even found myself agreeing with thistle, which hasn’t happened in ages – but I’d like to answer you from a different direction.

Remember that sometimes God withdraws His grace from you, and asks you to struggle and – yes – even to fall into sin (fighting every step of the way). He does this, in His wisdom, for many reasons, as there are many lessons to be taught by sin and our (losing) struggle against it. You will learn humility. You will learn your own weakness. You will learn contrition, and you will learn repentance. You will learn enough about all these things to realize that you don’t really know anything about them (when before you probably thought you knew much more than you did). You will develop habits of confession and prayer, and you will come to rely evermore on God’s grace revealed in daily life and the Eucharist. All this will make you stronger for the future, and more able to live out the vocation God has set for you when the trumpet blows and you are called to take up arms and take your place on the front lines of the spiritual war we’re fighting.

You must continue to fight temptations, and you must confess your mortal sins rigorously and very regularly, so as to preserve your soul against the fires of Hell… but, at the same time, you must also remember to thank God for your temptations, and, yes, to thank him even for the times that you failed, for He has brought such goodness and beauty out of your great failings. You must not despair. Your whole life, even your sins, are a part of God’s plan. Daily, hourly, constantly, turn towards God and strive to do His will. Trust that He will take care of the rest, and ensure that you do not die in a state in which you would be condemned to Hell.

This may seem to be a bit of a paradox on the face of it – how can Christians hold God in any way responsible for our own sin, much less thank Him for it? – but the tradition behind this strain of thought is ancient and pervasive. Not to mention valuable. Sin is still primarily our responsibility, and it is always a terrible thing, but we need not despair over our failure to overcome it on our own. We need to let God work in his own time, and have hope that, if we strive to be faithful to Him, we will not be cast into the outer darkness.

A good Christian spiritual classic which contains some of these themes (and which contains a spirituality that I have found to be particularly effective against masturbation): The Sayings of the Desert Fathers, from the 4th Century AD. (Abridged online version here.)

I hope this theological opinion is not controversial here.
 
I don’t think we know exactly what will happen at the moment of death - but we tend to trust in God’s mercy. That said - we make the choice.

Now my own person epiphany of this happened a few weeks ago. I worked late on Thurday night, and went to bed thinking that while I really would like to go to Church Friday morning, it was only a Friday morning (have been doing a first Friday devotion for a few months now). Well morning came and I woke up, and thought - I really want some more sleep, so half asleep I reset the alarm.

An hour latter I woke up and realized I choose my own personal pleasure over worshiping God. If we make our life choosing ourselves over God - honestly why would we do anything differently at the moment of our death?

FWIW, part of the First Friday devotion is a promise of the chance of Final Repentance. I had just slept through a First Friday mass.
 
That’s what scares me.

It would be better to die today than chance another step.
Actually it would be better not to sin at all or get to Confession as quickly as possible after comitting a sin.
 
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