Most fundamental truth of Christianity

[chefmomster2]

The Creed and John 3:16

 

[Rin]

trust me Im not wrong.

But what do you actually mean? Do you mean Christians are the only people who are actually able to trust? Do you mean everyone else is evil, which is what could be derived from what you’re saying? What is the foundation for your claim?

I’m sorry, I can’t trust an unfounded statement like this.

 

[chefmomster2]

Again I say
“There is no honour among thieves”
evil people do not trust anyone, even each other.
Christians trust in God, they trust each other.

trust me Im not wrong.

Ummmm…nope. That is quite simply not the teaching of the Catholic Church.

DOGMATIC CONSTITUTION ON THE CHURCH
LUMEN GENTIUM
SOLEMNLY PROMULGATED BY HIS HOLINESS POPE PAUL VI
ON NOVEMBER 21, 1964

1. The Church recognizes that in many ways she is linked with those who, being baptized, are honored with the name of Christian, though they do not profess the faith in its entirety or do not preserve unity of communion with the successor of Peter. For there are many who honor Sacred Scripture, taking it as a norm of belief and a pattern of life, and who show a sincere zeal. They lovingly believe in God the Father Almighty and in Christ, the Son of God and Saviour. They are consecrated by baptism, in which they are united with Christ. They also recognize and accept other sacraments within their own Churches or ecclesiastical communities. Many of them rejoice in the episcopate, celebrate the Holy Eucharist and cultivate devotion toward the Virgin Mother of God. They also share with us in prayer and other spiritual benefits. ** Likewise we can say that in some real way they are joined with us in the Holy Spirit, for to them too He gives His gifts and graces whereby He is operative among them with His sanctifying power.**…
2. Finally, those who have not yet received the Gospel are related in various ways to the people of God. In the first place we must recall the people to whom the testament and the promises were given and from whom Christ was born according to the flesh.** On account of their fathers this people remains most dear to God, for God does not repent of the gifts He makes nor of the calls He issues. But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator.** In the first place amongst these there are the Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind. Nor is God far distant from those who in shadows and images seek the unknown God, for it is He who gives to all men life and breath and all things, and as Saviour wills that all men be saved.** Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience.** Nor does Divine Providence deny the helps necessary for salvation to those who, without blame on their part, have not yet arrived at an explicit knowledge of God and with His grace strive to live a good life. ** Whatever good or truth is found amongst them is looked upon by the Church as a preparation for the Gospel.**…

I join with the others here who have asked for a substantiation of your claim.

 

[Isaih520]

The first thing I should imagine you’d teaach the heathen would be to worship Mary.
That afterall is the fundamental truth

 

[John_Lazarus]

The first thing I should imagine you’d teaach the heathen would be to worship Mary.
That afterall is the fundamental truth

This is amusing, considering that I have been Catholic for 50 years and I have never worshipped Mary. My worship is for God alone – Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

If you say (as you have in another post) you have nothing against Catholics, why do you spread lies about us?