Most Holy Family Monastery ---on to something??

[TNT]

I was mostly interested in the Most Holy Fam. Mon.'s attack on Divine Mercy. They pulled exerpts from Sr. Faustina’s journal where she claimed the Lord had spoken to her. Some of the quotes did not sound like things Christ would say to a person (not that I know what he would say). It made me wonder about the Divine Mercy and had anyone other than Most Holy Fam. Mon. ever questioned the validity Sr. Faustina’s/Divine Mercy.

If you are a Traditional Catholic, does this sound Traditional:

On page 23 of the book Divine Mercy in My Soul (The Diary of Sr. Faustina),
“…and the host came out of the tabernacle and came to rest in my hands** and I, with joy, placed it back in the tabernacle.This was repeated a second time, and I did the samething. Despite this,** it happened a third time**…”​

Or:

On page 89 of the book *Divine Mercy in My Soul, *it says:
“When the priest approached me again, I raised the host for him to put back into the chalice, because when I had first received Jesus I could not speak before consuming the host, and so could not tell Him that the other host had fallen. But while I was holding the host in my hand, I felt such a power of love that for the rest of the day I could neither eat nor come to my senses. I heard these words from the host: I desired to rest in your hands, not only in your heart.”

Does this have an antithesis in Scripture:

On page 168, Same diary, it says:
“The moment I knelt down to cross out my own will, as the Lord had bid me to do, I heard this voice in my soul: From now on,do not fear God’s judgement, for** you will not be judged**.”

Wasn’t this book on the Index of forbidden books from the outset? Which in essence means it was anti-Catholic or suspect of heresy in it’s theology?

The whole diary comes across as “prep” Medjugorje “prep” Bayside. IMHO.

 

[Catholic_Kat]

If you are a Traditional Catholic, does this sound Traditional:

On page 23 of the book Divine Mercy in My Soul (The Diary of Sr. Faustina),
“…and the host came out of the tabernacle and came to rest in my hands** and I, with joy, placed it back in the tabernacle.This was repeated a second time, and I did the samething. Despite this,** it happened a third time**…”​

Or:

On page 89 of the book *Divine Mercy in My Soul, *it says:
“When the priest approached me again, I raised the host for him to put back into the chalice, because when I had first received Jesus I could not speak before consuming the host, and so could not tell Him that the other host had fallen. But while I was holding the host in my hand, I felt such a power of love that for the rest of the day I could neither eat nor come to my senses. I heard these words from the host: I desired to rest in your hands, not only in your heart.”

Does this have an antithesis in Scripture:

On page 168, Same diary, it says:
“The moment I knelt down to cross out my own will, as the Lord had bid me to do, I heard this voice in my soul: From now on,do not fear God’s judgement, for** you will not be judged**.”

Wasn’t this book on the Index of forbidden books from the outset? Which in essence means it was anti-Catholic or suspect of heresy in it’s theology?

The whole diary comes across as “prep” Medjugorje “prep” Bayside. IMHO.

I had never heard that this book was forbidden, is this true? It was strange when i read these quotes.

 

[TNT]

One of the big problems with that diary is that it is generally agreed that she could neither read nor write to any degree of competence. So the diary had to be the hand of someone else.
Finally, this diary began to show up some lengthy time after her death.
If I were to choose between the Divine Mercy & the Sacred Heart Devotion, Saint Margaret Mary’s Sacred Heart devotion takes it for me.

 

[TNT]

On the matter of being on the Index, the following is all I could find:
The Diary was ecclesiastically prohibited in 1958 with the prohibition being removed April 15, 1978.
And another comment:
A local devotion under this title, which is associated with one Sr. Faustina and a chaplet of the Divine Mercy, was approved by the Ordinary of Vilnius, Poland, in 1936 and from there spread rapidly, especially after World War II in the United States.

It appears that Sr. Faustina could not write, except for a few lines phonetically. Most of her “diary” was concocted by her sisters after her death. Because of the incongruities of the dairy (different handwriting, different use of terms), the devotion was suppressed, and the book of her diary was placed on the Index Librorum Prohibitorum [Index of Forbidden Books]. This decision was upheld by Pope John XXIII in 1958/59.

 

[paramedicgirl]

On the matter of being on the Index, the following is all I could find:
The Diary was ecclesiastically prohibited in 1958 with the prohibition being removed April 15, 1978.
And another comment:
A local devotion under this title, which is associated with one Sr. Faustina and a chaplet of the Divine Mercy, was approved by the Ordinary of Vilnius, Poland, in 1936 and from there spread rapidly, especially after World War II in the United States.

It appears that Sr. Faustina could not write, except for a few lines phonetically. Most of her “diary” was concocted by her sisters after her death. Because of the incongruities of the dairy (different handwriting, different use of terms), the devotion was suppressed, and the book of her diary was placed on the Index Librorum Prohibitorum [Index of Forbidden Books]. This decision was upheld by Pope John XXIII in 1958/59.

Very interesting, TNT. I read the Divine Mercy years ago, and this is the first time I’ve heard anything about it being contradictory in any way. Faustina has been canonized, so the Vatican must have satisfied themselves about her writing, no?

 

[mtr01]

Very interesting, TNT. I read the Divine Mercy years ago, and this is the first time I’ve heard anything about it being contradictory in any way. Faustina has been canonized, so the Vatican must have satisfied themselves about her writing, no?

It was Pope John Paul II himself, when he was a bishop in Poland that began the work of “rehabilitating” Sr. Faustina and her diary. So, yeah, I’d say the Holy see was eventually satisfied.

 

[Walking_Home]

On the matter of being on the Index, the following is all I could find:
The Diary was ecclesiastically prohibited in 1958 with the prohibition being removed April 15, 1978.
And another comment:
A local devotion under this title, which is associated with one Sr. Faustina and a chaplet of the Divine Mercy, was approved by the Ordinary of Vilnius, Poland, in 1936 and from there spread rapidly, especially after World War II in the United States.

It appears that Sr. Faustina could not write, except for a few lines phonetically. Most of her “diary” was concocted by her sisters after her death. Because of the incongruities of the dairy (different handwriting, different use of terms), the devotion was suppressed, and the book of her diary was placed on the Index Librorum Prohibitorum [Index of Forbidden Books]. This decision was upheld by Pope John XXIII in 1958/59.

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That in itself is reason for concern.

 

[WanderAimlessly]

It appears that Sr. Faustina could not write, except for a few lines phonetically. Most of her “diary” was concocted by her sisters after her death.

I take it, you have definitive proof of this? If so, cite sources. Also, Sede-vacantist sites are not proof since they are inherently anti-Catholic and conspiracy laden in nature.

 

[TNT]

I take it, you have definitive proof of this? If so, cite sources. Also, Sede-vacantist sites are not proof since they are inherently anti-Catholic and conspiracy laden in nature.

Source:
At the age of fifteen, having attended just three years of school, she started work to support her family. Around this time she was considering a vocation in the Catholic church. She claimed that God himself was calling her to be a nun. Helena left for Warsaw, and applied to various convents in the capital, only to be turned down each time. She was finally accepted at the convent of the Congregation of the Sisters of Our Lady of Mercy.

Faustina wrote a diary, despite her **limited literacy…

**Faustina had never been able to found the religious order which Jesus had asked for…

 

[Jean_Anthony]

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