Move: The Imitation Game

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So I went to see this film expecting it to be a propaganda piece promoting homosexuality in a similar manner to the way that “The Cider House Rules” was a propaganda piece designed to humanize and legitimize public perception of abortionists.

I was pleasantly surprised to find I was wrong. Or perhaps it was such a piece, but the propaganda was done so badly that it turned out to be a good film!

SPOILERS: The film is about a Dr. Turing, a brilliant mathematician in Britain in WW2 who essentially invented the computer as a means to break the Nazi Enigma cipher system. He is also homosexual. The film does a magnificent job of illustrating a brilliant, but troubled and in some ways broken man who nevertheless had the unique skills and talents to create a previously unimagined means of breaking a code cipher.

Here’s where it gets really interesting. The film does a brilliant job of working to break down REAL homophobia (defined as the hatred of a PERSON because of his homosexual inclinations). If that was the PR goal, it was achieved nicely. It also portrayed the way in which societal rejection and physical harm to people who commit homosexual actions does more harm than good.

But what surprised me was the extent to which the film did NOT attempt to portray his “gayness” as a positive innate feature of his identity. My own catholic views on the sinfulness of homosexual behavior were not challenged in any serious way by the PR message. I was expecting a much tougher sell and expected to, as usual, be called a bigot. Instead, what I saw was a good man, but broken and fallen due to sin and in need of a Savior. Tragically, he instead chose his temptations and the consequences destroyed him in spite of his towering achievements.

The producers probably felt that they put in a nice PR message. They probably think they sent the message that society for too long has oppressed homosexuals instead of valuing the contributions gay people have made. But I saw a subtle difference. I saw Turing harnessing his frustrations and desires and channeling them into his work to a level that made him achieve something nobody before him ever dreamed of. It wasn’t giving in to his temptations that allowed that achievement, it was the control of them that empowered him. When he DID give in to his temptations, they destroyed him.

If you’ve held off on seeing the movie, don’t fret. If the idea that a gay man can be a great man offends you, then you probably need to be offended in order to repent. Because sinners can still be great men, it’s just that their sins aren’t contributors to their greatness. Maybe the movie producers didn’t even comprehend that. Turing was a tragic hero, whose flaw destroyed him in the end. In the movie, he doesn’t seem to have found his Savior. In real life, may God have mercy on his soul.
 
It was truly remarkable the degree to which they minimized his gayness.
 
It was truly remarkable the degree to which they minimized his gayness.
Did they “minimize” it, or was that aspect of his person actually minimal compared to the aspects of him that made him a person people write books and make movies about?

It seemed the latter to me. After all, the guy had serious interpersonal issues with nearly everybody. His lack of relationship skills in general made his team’s achievement all the more extraordinary.
 
Did they “minimize” it, or was that aspect of his person actually minimal compared to the aspects of him that made him a person people write books and make movies about?

It seemed the latter to me. After all, the guy had serious interpersonal issues with nearly everybody. His lack of relationship skills in general made his team’s achievement all the more extraordinary.
They made his relationship with his ex-fiancée bigger than it actually was which is problematic.

The movie substantially exaggerated his difficulties with relationships.
 
The movie didn’t invent the notion of him having Asperger’s. The diagnosis didn’t exist back then, but the fact that more than a few people assert that the label fits suggests that he hardly won any popularity awards.

I find the “exaggerated relationship” argument rather suspect. Everybody accepts the historical reality that they were engaged. Perhaps it was indeed mostly a scam to allow her to achieve her math potential. But it’s not credible to claim that he had no real emotional bond with someone whom he trusted enough to be engaged to. Even if there is no romance there, there is an intimacy of trust and friendship that is required to do that.

Movies always simplify terribly. They have to to meet the time deadline.
 
I was also pleased with this movie. (Mathematicians are fascinating people. ;))

I thought the movie seemed a lot like stage play. (I don’t believe this movie was directly adapted from a play but I could be wrong since there evidently was a play about Turing’s life.)

They did a good job of keeping his homosexuality in context. It played a definite role in his life for security and legal reasons but the movie kept the main focus on his mathematical and computer science contributions.
 
The movie was exciting, but I fear people may be moved to “compassion” regarding the homosexual movement by watching this film, particularly the end of it. We know what the Brits did to those homosexuals was wrong, but I fear this may cause people to be sympathetic to the homosexual movement.
 
The other thing I forgot to mention was that chemical castration did not dull his mind, indeed it caused him to pursue research into mathematical biology.
 
I haven’t seen the movie yet, although it’s one of two my wife and I have in mind. The other one is “The Water Diviner”.

I’m not interested in the film because Alan Turing was homosexual, but because his work on cracking the Enigma code was of considerable importance during World War II. I think that World War II was the last really “just” war from the Allied perspective, and those who fought in it had a unique experience.
 
I haven’t seen the movie yet, although it’s one of two my wife and I have in mind. The other one is “The Water Diviner”.

I’m not interested in the film because Alan Turing was homosexual, but because his work on cracking the Enigma code was of considerable importance during World War II. I think that World War II was the last really “just” war from the Allied perspective, and those who fought in it had a unique experience.
The Allies committed many atrocities, see Dresden.
 
Hiroshima and Nagasaki too.
The bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki ultimately were aimed to obliterate high value military targets, such Hiroshima having the defense command for Southern Japan, a target which was imperative to destroy in case of an Allied invasion and Nagasaki was a major producer of industrial goods. Dresden in comparison had fairly limited military value while it had enormous cultural value, much like Oxford, which the Nazis spared. In effect, while Nagasaki and Hiroshima had higher casualties ethically bombing Dresden was worse.
 
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