Movie "Arrival"

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Ive not seen this movie but have seen the trailers, but something Ive noticed in many of these ‘aliens show up unexpectedly’ type movies, a good deal of them end up implying these visitors were somehow responsible for humans being created, we are like their little science experiment…Im not sure if this movie goes this route, but it find it interesting that so many do.

Its like they are trying to plant seeds of doubt in popular movies.
 
Without giving away the ending - would you say that the movie caters to a secularized worldview? Do you think that a believing Christian (or Jew, etc.) would react to the movie differently than a non-believer?

I’m trying to get a sense of what you disliked about the film - without, again, getting into specifics of the plot. Thanks.
I saw it and I didn’t feel like it catered to any specific worldview. Honestly most of the movie is actually focused on the humans.

I thought it was really well-done, but it’s definitely not a typical alien invasion movie. I wouldn’t say nothing happens, there were some tense moments for me, but the ending was certainly not what I was expecting and the plot is resolved in a slightly anti-climactic way. I can see why some wouldn’t like it.

ETA: As far as whether a fourteen year old could see it, while there’s nothing problematic in it, I’m not sure how much she would enjoy it. It’s pretty heady and less about aliens and more about the power of communication. You’d have to be the judge on whether or not she’d like it.
 
Ive not seen this movie but have seen the trailers, but something Ive noticed in many of these ‘aliens show up unexpectedly’ type movies, a good deal of them end up implying these visitors were somehow responsible for humans being created, we are like their little science experiment…Im not sure if this movie goes this route, but it find it interesting that so many do.

Its like they are trying to plant seeds of doubt in popular movies.
There’s nothing like that in this movie.
 
I didn’t recall any bad words no F bombs or really anything for that matter.

There wasn’t any sex scenes or nudity. Really clean for a Hollywood flick.

I thought it was a very well done film, thought provoking and well acted.
 
After reading Steven Greydanus’ favorable review at National Catholic Register (not Reporter), I went to see Arrival. I enjoyed it very much, not that the movie was flawless, but to me the positives outweighed the negatives. I’m embarrassed to say that, not only did I fail to see the “twist” ending in advance (I know from reading other Internet forums that some people were able to pick up on the clues ahead of time to figure out the ending) but it actually took me about 15 minutes after the movie was over to realize what had happened. I’m always bad at “seeing” surprise endings that way, even when they are relatively obvious.

I was thinking about starting another thread that would be a “spoiler” thread where folks who have seen the movie can discuss it. Is there anyone else interested? If I don’t see any responses I will assume there is no interest. Thanks.
 
I was going to go see it then when I read the synopsis it looked too much like Contact and that “Third Kind” movie from the 70s which in my opinion can’t be topped in this genre. The 50s version of The Day The Earth Stood Still would be second after that they are all just carbon copies.
 
It was a very good movie.

Jimmy akin said so too:

Jimmy Akin
November 19 at 7:05pm ·

Saw the movie “Arrival” (based on Ted Chiang’s short story “Story of Your Life”) with some friends this afternoon. It was good!

Nice to see they can still make science fiction movies that are about ideas instead of how many explosions you can shove onto the screen.
 
That would be a major selling point for me. But I’m still going to wait until it comes out on disk.
 
I was going to go see it then when I read the synopsis it looked too much like Contact and that “Third Kind” movie from the 70s which in my opinion can’t be topped in this genre. The 50s version of The Day The Earth Stood Still would be second after that they are all just carbon copies.
The Day the Earth Stood Still was a classic. I liked Close Encounters too. I watched Mars Attacks the other night and it was more entertaining than Arrival. If you like slow movies with boring dialogue,
Arrival will be a movie you will like.
 
The Day the Earth Stood Still was a classic. I liked Close Encounters too. I watched Mars Attacks the other night and it was more entertaining than Arrival. If you like slow movies with boring dialogue,
Arrival will be a movie you will like.
“Slow” and “lots of dialogue” will be very likely characteristics of a First Encounter, so in that respect, it sounds like this movie is quite realistic.
 
I loved this movie!!

I wanted to see it since it came out because I love languages but my best friend wanted to see Dr Strange so we saw that instead. I’m actually glad I didn’t see it with her because I don’t think she would’ve liked it. I don’t think this movie is for everyone and yes I agree that it is more for a ‘thinking’ type of personality. There’s not much action and no explosions and for me that was a plus.

I see very little Hollywood or secular stuff so I’m very sensitive to it but I found no offensive parts to this movie. Like someone else said at its core this movie is less about aliens are more about the characters. To me it has a great message about what is important in life and the nature of humanity. I don’t want to give it away but it was easily the best movie I’ve seen this year.
 
There’s not much action and no explosions and for me that was a plus.
There was one explosion, remember? I think, though, that it was put in to advance the plot, rather than create excitement for the audience. That was my sense anyway. Personally I felt that the circumstances didn’t make sense, but I can see why the filmmakers thought that it was necessary to drive the plot in the direction they wanted it to go.
 
There was one explosion, remember? I think, though, that it was put in to advance the plot, rather than create excitement for the audience. That was my sense anyway. Personally I felt that the circumstances didn’t make sense, but I can see why the filmmakers thought that it was necessary to drive the plot in the direction they wanted it to go.
you are right. the explosion didn’t make sense and didn’t really advance the plot. Personally, I like thinking movies, but Arrival was just asking too much. I have never heard of the book or short story it was based on. Maybe the story was better than the movie.
 
Personally, I like thinking movies, but Arrival was just asking too much. I have never heard of the book or short story it was based on. Maybe the story was better than the movie.
I read somewhere that in the original short story (Story of Your Life by Ted Chiang) the aliens don’t actually come to Earth, they communicate with people on Earth via some kind of transmission. The story is mostly about how the humans learn to “decode” the alien language in order to communicate with them. I guess the filmmakers figured that audiences would want more excitement. Hence the mysterious, big black alien vessels floating above the ground, the international conflict etc.
 
I read somewhere that in the original short story (Story of Your Life by Ted Chiang) the aliens don’t actually come to Earth, they communicate with people on Earth via some kind of transmission. The story is mostly about how the humans learn to “decode” the alien language in order to communicate with them. I guess the filmmakers figured that audiences would want more excitement. Hence the mysterious, big black alien vessels floating above the ground, the international conflict etc.
Thanks. They probably should have just left it with the vessels. The movie lost me with the octopus or squid like aliens and putting their fingers on the glass emitting the ink.
 
It sounds like the Foreigner series, especially “Explorer,” which is about establishing communication with an alien species under tense intergalactic circumstances.
Man, I wish they would make a movie – or trilogy – of C.J.Cherryh’s Foreigner series.

Looking forward to seeing Arrival.

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I saw it tonight, and enjoyed it, although I see from IMDB reviews that people either loved it or hated it.
There’s little action, and it kind of cheats, showing what we take to be flashbacks when they are not really.
The premise is cool though. It’s also in line with theology, treating time not as linear but as existing all at once, as God may see it.
An action filled blockbuster, it’s not – but I get kind of tired of those anyway.

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I enjoyed it, it lead to an interesting discussion about God and the eternal now with my sons.
 
I bought the DVD on Saturday, and the Spousal Unit and I watched it that evening. She hated it, but then she has problems following plots that aren’t fairy-tale simple, and this movie really engages the mind. You have to pay attention.

Contrary to reports above, the film is rated PG-13, “for brief strong language,” which is a single F-bomb spoken by Dr. Donnelly (Ian) at about the 0:30 mark as an amazed reaction to the conditions in the alien ship. Other than that, this movie is almost old-fashioned-Disney clean.

In terms of the characterization of the aliens, this is one of the more realistic First Contact movies that I have seen (not that I have seen them all). Unlike the aliens in Star Trek and a number of other popular series, these aliens are not stereotypical humanoids with putty on their noses and foreheads. (In my own novel, I went with the stereotype, because I wanted to keep things relatively simple.) These critters were definitely . . . alien, to the extent that they had to maintain a separate environment.

As regards the primary focus of the movie, which is how humans and really alien aliens learn how to communicate, I was a little disappointed. I was hoping for a “this means this, and that means that” exposition of the alien language, but really that was a bit of a stretch. The insights into the meanings of the aliens’ written symbols were all in Dr. Banks’ mind, without any direct correlation to specific details of the symbols (except for one or two). I can see why the producers did it that way; it was definitely the less expensive way to go. Otherwise, they would have had to hire someone like Marc Okrand or Dr. Paul Frommer, the developers of the Klingon and Pandoran languages, respectively. One detail that escaped me was how the Heptapod aliens managed to attain understanding of Dr. Banks’ spoken language, while she never learned to understand theirs.

(In my own novel, the human narrator-protagonist made a snap decision to use Esperanto rather than English, because of the simplicity of that language, in his attempt to establish communication with the aliens. The aliens’ mode of sound production was completely different from how we produce sounds, but one of the aliens was able to devise a way to encode human speech sounds into their system. Later on, the artificial intelligences used by the aliens provided simultaneous translation.)

The lack of bravado and mindless heroism among the main human characters was something with which I could identify. I believe that some of us, perhaps many of us, have it within us act heroically in very new and strange situations like those depicted, but we likely would wetting our pants while we do it.

This was definitely an actors’ movie, as opposed to a special-effects/CGI movie, and I appreciated that. I also appreciated that the movie was not intentionally anti-theistic (like Contact. It was non-theistic, in the sense that there was no mention or consideration of God, but I can tolerate that in a movie, as long as the main characters aren’t coming right out and saying, “There is no God!”

The bottom line from my point of view is that people who want to be mindlessly entertained will not like this movie. (Before you jump on me, I am NOT saying that not liking this movie means that you are someone who likes to be mindlessly entertained. Heck, I like to be mindlessly entertained from time to time.) But there is a mystery here to be understood and solved, and if you like that kind of thing, you might enjoy this movie. And the mystery actually doesn’t have anything to do with breaking the language code.
 
I was excited to see it, but found it disappointing. There was no sexual situations and I do not recall much language.

The idea that their language/time travel thing was their gift, was imo, kind of dumb, the more I thought about it, the main language expert should not have been surprised when they first showed up, she would have known about it prior, thanks to her being able to jump forward in time so to speak.

This was a different kind of ‘alien movie’ though, usually they involve them coming and invading in dramatic fashion and/or lots of CGI effects. The aliens in this movie were pretty basic and they never really showed a clear shot of one.

The acting was good though, and I like Jeremy Renner.
 
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