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mike182d
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This reaffirms my fears.
Quite frankly, I find such a portrayal of my mother to be offensive
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Quite frankly, I find such a portrayal of my mother to be offensive
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tkdnick
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Saw a special prescreening of the movie last night. Good movie. Definitely worth seeing.
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tkdnick
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I saw it last night and while I agree that I was surprised Mary was portrayed as unhappy at being betrothed to Joseph, I didn’t see any problems with the scene I imagine he is talking about Mary being flirtatious. It was 3 girls and 3 boys playing around while sowing seed in the field. And it was actually Mary’s friend who was portrayed as the one who was flirting.
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jediliz
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I want to see what they imagine the journey to Bethlehem was like. I can imagine it was rather dangerous.
The only problem so far that I had was in the trailer where Mary says “I am nothing,”
I want to see what the USCCB’s movie review will be like, too, but regardless I hope to see it on Friday.
The only problem so far that I had was in the trailer where Mary says “I am nothing,”
I want to see what the USCCB’s movie review will be like, too, but regardless I hope to see it on Friday.
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lak611
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:clapping: :tiphat:
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BlazingBolt
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Vatican officials give thumbs up for 'The Nativity Story’
catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0606750.htm
catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0606750.htm
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proud2bcatholic
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I did not see that at all, they were merely playing in the fields with the seed, there was no flirtation on Mary’s part. Yes there was some flirtation from her friend, but not from Mary.
Hmm, I guess one could have implied that, the fact is that 99.7% people are not going to imply that. In addition, this was before Gabriel came to her.
She did not argue, she was upset and did talk to her mom about it afterwards to seek understanding, but I wouldn’t deem it arguing, nor was her actions sinful.
In Genesis 3 it says that pains would be intensified, one could easily read that to mean that there would have pain before the Fall, just that afterwards the pain would be intensified.
I agree that it was beautifully done, I just don’t see how this movie could have a negative impact, only a positive one.
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Pious_Redeemer
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Why are my posts ignored here? If so, goodbye my friends, back to secular church-europeThe actress who has played the virgin Mary in the movie is 16 years old and has announced to be pregnant by her 19 year old boyfriend, with whom she has a relationship for 3 years now. That’s why she wasn’t present at the première in the Vatican. She’s onbviously not living according to the teachings of the church herself. What a nice “Holy Mother”
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Link in Dutch (from the news):
vrtnieuws.net/nieuwsnet_master/versie2/nieuws/details/061007Keisha/index.shtml
Link in English:
nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10404883
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proud2bcatholic
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Yep, the actress is a sinner, guess she can join the club. She played the role of Mary, she is not Mary.
I am glad that she has decided to keep the baby. I hope and pray that has repented of her sin (is she Catholic?), and if she hasn’t I pray that she converts.
I am glad that she has decided to keep the baby. I hope and pray that has repented of her sin (is she Catholic?), and if she hasn’t I pray that she converts.
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proud2bcatholic
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Perhaps why this particular post was ignored is because it has little to do with the actual movie.Why are my posts ignored here? If so, goodbye my friends, back to secular church-europe
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Liberalsaved
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I saw it. It was an attack post that had nothing to do with your opinion on the film.Why are my posts ignored here? If so, goodbye my friends, back to secular church-europe
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Pious_Redeemer
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Okey, thanks 
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Robo40
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We all have to keep in mind that ALL movies that are produced(even if produced by well intentioned Christians) Are financed by people who want to MAKE Money. I always try to keep it in perspective. If it is wholesome and not to far off the mark than there shouldnt be any trouble with it. I will probably wait for the DVD though.
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Unexpected_Dawn
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I saw the film on Monday evening, and enjoyed it very much.
You can tell it’s not made by Catholics, but I definitely don’t think anyone meant to speak against Catholic tradition. I found the haunting opening chant of “Veni, veni, Emmanuel” along with several other carols sung in Latin, to be an obvious tribute to Catholic tradition. Obviously, carols sung in Latin are anachronisms, but I thought they were an effective reminder that this story is timeless and that it the story of all Christianity.
This film is above all about the Messiah. Everything in the film points to the Lord Jesus. Even in the narrative about Mary and Joseph, there are many instances of foreshadowing the Savior’s life and destiny–with powerful and often heartbreaking effect. There is also the narrative about King Herod and his fear of the ancient prophecy of the Messiah, his cruel plot to destroy the Messiah, and the divine foiling of that plot–which is very much a message for our secularist and often anti-Christian world. There is also the narrative of the three Magi from Persia, whose pursuit of the star is ultimately the pursuit of faith—as a Catholic, I automatically saw that as a metaphor for the pursuit of faith through reason.
Actually, I think the Magi narrative was one of my favorite things about this film! The film really brings their story to life, and it’s so very important for us as Christians. Here you have these wealthy scientists from a pagan land, and yet somehow they seem to have a better understanding than anyone of the tremendous import of the Christ child and His tremendous (and sacrificial) destiny. Physically, at least, their journey is even longer and more uncertain than Mary and Joseph’s. They prefigure all Christians, really, all who would seek to be good disciples of Christ.
There is so much goodness in this film. I truly think it is a film in which everyone can find some value—even if it is purely aesthetic or entertainment value—of which there is plenty as well! It’s dramatic, it’s realistic, it’s spiritual, it’s painful, it’s heartbreaking, it’s joyful. It’s a perfect film for Advent and Christmas. It gives us fresh perspective about what this season is all about. Compare our materialism and consumerism to the abject poverty into which our Lord and King was born. This film reminds us what (or rather who) the true Christmas gift is.
You can tell it’s not made by Catholics, but I definitely don’t think anyone meant to speak against Catholic tradition. I found the haunting opening chant of “Veni, veni, Emmanuel” along with several other carols sung in Latin, to be an obvious tribute to Catholic tradition. Obviously, carols sung in Latin are anachronisms, but I thought they were an effective reminder that this story is timeless and that it the story of all Christianity.
This film is above all about the Messiah. Everything in the film points to the Lord Jesus. Even in the narrative about Mary and Joseph, there are many instances of foreshadowing the Savior’s life and destiny–with powerful and often heartbreaking effect. There is also the narrative about King Herod and his fear of the ancient prophecy of the Messiah, his cruel plot to destroy the Messiah, and the divine foiling of that plot–which is very much a message for our secularist and often anti-Christian world. There is also the narrative of the three Magi from Persia, whose pursuit of the star is ultimately the pursuit of faith—as a Catholic, I automatically saw that as a metaphor for the pursuit of faith through reason.
Actually, I think the Magi narrative was one of my favorite things about this film! The film really brings their story to life, and it’s so very important for us as Christians. Here you have these wealthy scientists from a pagan land, and yet somehow they seem to have a better understanding than anyone of the tremendous import of the Christ child and His tremendous (and sacrificial) destiny. Physically, at least, their journey is even longer and more uncertain than Mary and Joseph’s. They prefigure all Christians, really, all who would seek to be good disciples of Christ.
There is so much goodness in this film. I truly think it is a film in which everyone can find some value—even if it is purely aesthetic or entertainment value—of which there is plenty as well! It’s dramatic, it’s realistic, it’s spiritual, it’s painful, it’s heartbreaking, it’s joyful. It’s a perfect film for Advent and Christmas. It gives us fresh perspective about what this season is all about. Compare our materialism and consumerism to the abject poverty into which our Lord and King was born. This film reminds us what (or rather who) the true Christmas gift is.
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estesbob
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Well I saw Borat last Sunday and have seen the Davici Code and all the Harry Potter Movies so i guess seeing “The Nativity” movie isnt going to be a problem in our household!
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CANman
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I saw the movie last night, and I must say I was disappointed. I was expecting more of a Biblical Epic I guess. I would only reccomend the movie for those who want to go to be entertained, not study theology…
The part that really bothered me was after the angel appeared to Mary, she really did not believe him. She used her visit to Elizabeth to verify whether or not what the angel said was true … . .she mused to herself that if Elizabeth was pregnant, then she would believe. Many other parts took a little artistic license (?) too.
Hey, there were moments I was moved, especially at the birth of the Lord. But overall, I was disappointed. Zeckariahs great canticle was omitted, as was Mary’s (although it showed up in bits and pieces at the end).
I would not purchase this film, or see it again. My wife, however, thoroughly enjoyed it.
The part that really bothered me was after the angel appeared to Mary, she really did not believe him. She used her visit to Elizabeth to verify whether or not what the angel said was true … . .she mused to herself that if Elizabeth was pregnant, then she would believe. Many other parts took a little artistic license (?) too.
Hey, there were moments I was moved, especially at the birth of the Lord. But overall, I was disappointed. Zeckariahs great canticle was omitted, as was Mary’s (although it showed up in bits and pieces at the end).
I would not purchase this film, or see it again. My wife, however, thoroughly enjoyed it.
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Vivemus
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Yes an interesting list, you realize that most are protestant bibles that don’t even contain the full cannon. A little ironic don’t you think. As for highly favored been a fairly modern interpretation, it was present in the KJV, so has been around awhile. But you could also say that it benefits from more advanced scripture study.
I agree with you that we all have to make our own choice and I respect yours. I am hearted by the posts of those who have seen it and hope to see it myself.
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debby_dilollo
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Hi to all of you. This is my first time on line in any kind of forum. I hit the Nativity Story post for a very strong reason. None of you sound like converts to Catholicism to me. I am coming up on my 25th anniversary on December 10th. I was raised Scotch-Irish Protestant, right-wing, fundamental-evangelical, went to Bible college and in 1979 while at Bible college, saw JP2 for the first time. I had never even known what any pope’s name was before nor cared in the slightest what the “heretic” would have to say (not that I ever read or listened to a Pope, just what Protestant ministers said “he said.”) He is my REAL PAPA. My Father in Faith. My Papa forever. Anyway, the reason I am responding is because several of you tread very dangerous ground when you make comments along the line of “it’s so good, nice, etc to think about Joseph and Mary as HUMANs,” blah, blah, blah. It’s not nice, it’s fantasy. Read Lord of the Rings again if you want fantasy, or go see a Disney movie named after a somewhat historical character. There is extreme danger in mis-interpreting Holy Scripture and people have historically shed their blood over doctrine. My people. The Scotch, the English, the Irish have shed gallons over religion and doctrine and the fact of the matter is, ONLY THE TRUTH SETS YOU FREE. To portray Our Lady, The Immaculate Conception (as She revealed Her Name to a “stupid” pesant named Bernadette not all that long ago), the ONLY PERSON EVER IN SCRIPTURE ADDRESSED AS “FULL OF GRACE” (which is one of the scriptures when looked at fully in the original language was one of the “selling points” on the authenticity of the Holy Roman Catholic Church for me) BY AN ANGEL WHO HAS JUST LEFT THE PRESENCE OF ALMIGHTY GOD TO GIVE HIS GREETING (HAIL), COMMENDATION (FULL OF GRACE, THE LORD IS WITH YOU, BLESSED ARE YOU AMONG WOMEN) AND THEN MADE THE GREAT ANNOUCEMENT (BLESSED IS THE FRUIT OF YOUR WOMB, & THE SPIRIT OF THE MOST HIGH SHALL OVERSHADOW YOU…). NO ONE ELSE IN ALL OF SCRIPTURE, not Abraham (he was visited but they looked like men who sat & ate with him), not Moses (who only “saw” God hidden in a burning bush and on His Holy Mountain), not even the prophet Daniel, who to my limited knowlege is the only other person in Scripture called “perfect before God” because of his purity of heart, but none of them were PRAISED BY AN ANGELIC BEING AS BEING FULL OF THE GRACE (LIFE) OF GOD! NONE! This greeting is the Scriptural proof that Mary did not suffer original sin. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS??? Absolutely no tendency toward sin, selfishness, pride… ORDINARY? ARE YOU KIDDING? She was about as ordinary as Jesus Himself - NOT GOD–I DID NOT SAY SHE WAS DIVINE AT ALL, however, She was really not like us in Her Soul, Her Mind, Will and Emotion was inexplicitly united to the will of God; She was the first to utter, Thy Will Be Done on Earth as it is in HEAVEN when She said, “Be it done.” Notice, She did not say, “yes” like so many people assume. That would water her response down to, “I’ve thought about it and decided to accept your proposal.” No. She said, “I am the Handmaiden (lowest servant’s position in the house) of the LORD. Let it be done to me according to thy word.” She said, “I belong wholly to the Lord, God, the WORD. What He says IS in my life.” OK, no regrets, no fear, no need to even “go tell Joseph what God said so he knows what is flying…” No, total trust in God doing God’s thing and telling who He wants to the way He wants to in His time. Do you work with any one like this? Do you live with anyone like this? Heck no! We don’t come close! Would anyone notice if we were ordinary HOLY people (you know, Like Mother Teresa??)–heck yeah. In fact, many of us get an ear job at work just because we don’t do a list of “normal, ordinary” American things…
THIS IS NOT A GOOD MOVIE FOR ANYONE TO SEE BECAUSE IT DOES NOT TELL ANY TRUTH. IT’S AS HISTORIC AS DISNEY’S POCOHANTAS! They got the name of the Holy Family right and lost it after that. I am making this assessment based on the articles I’ve read & trailers I’ve seen. Quite frankly, I was very disappointed but sadly, not the least bit surprised. I think Braveheart is closer to Scotch history than this movie and it’s a lame attempt to make $$$$ - which no doubt it will.
SORRY THIS WAS SOOOOO LONG!!!
THIS IS NOT A GOOD MOVIE FOR ANYONE TO SEE BECAUSE IT DOES NOT TELL ANY TRUTH. IT’S AS HISTORIC AS DISNEY’S POCOHANTAS! They got the name of the Holy Family right and lost it after that. I am making this assessment based on the articles I’ve read & trailers I’ve seen. Quite frankly, I was very disappointed but sadly, not the least bit surprised. I think Braveheart is closer to Scotch history than this movie and it’s a lame attempt to make $$$$ - which no doubt it will.
SORRY THIS WAS SOOOOO LONG!!!
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didymus
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From the USCCB. Click here for full review.
Dramatization of the New Testament birth narratives from the Annunciation to the birth of Jesus, focusing on the relationship between Mary (Keisha Castle-Hughes) and Joseph (Oscar Isaac) and their arduous trek from Nazareth to Bethlehem, with subplots tracking the journey of the three Magi and the efforts of King Herod (Ciaran Hinds) to prevent the prophecy of a messiah from coming to pass. A composite of the Gospels of Matthew and Luke, embroidered with apocryphal traditions and the imagination of the filmmaker, the Bible story gets the prestige treatment in director Catherine Hardwicke’s artful, reverent and affecting retelling, with soulful performances from an excellent international cast – including Shohreh Aghdashloo as Elizabeth – and impressive production design. Mike Rich’s screenplay manages to flesh out Mary and Joseph while remaining faithful to Scripture, poignantly suggesting the humanity beneath the halos. Some violent images. A-I – general patronage. (PG) ***2006
Dramatization of the New Testament birth narratives from the Annunciation to the birth of Jesus, focusing on the relationship between Mary (Keisha Castle-Hughes) and Joseph (Oscar Isaac) and their arduous trek from Nazareth to Bethlehem, with subplots tracking the journey of the three Magi and the efforts of King Herod (Ciaran Hinds) to prevent the prophecy of a messiah from coming to pass. A composite of the Gospels of Matthew and Luke, embroidered with apocryphal traditions and the imagination of the filmmaker, the Bible story gets the prestige treatment in director Catherine Hardwicke’s artful, reverent and affecting retelling, with soulful performances from an excellent international cast – including Shohreh Aghdashloo as Elizabeth – and impressive production design. Mike Rich’s screenplay manages to flesh out Mary and Joseph while remaining faithful to Scripture, poignantly suggesting the humanity beneath the halos. Some violent images. A-I – general patronage. (PG) ***2006
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didymus
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The reviewer from the LA Times thinks The Nativity Story follows the scriptures too closely.
’The Nativity Story’
By Kenneth Turan, Times Staff Writer
As Mel Gibson’s “The Passion of the Christ” powerfully demonstrated, lots of people are willing to spend serious money to see films with Christian subject matter. “The Nativity Story” is attempting to tap into that market by Leaving to Mel the Things That Are Mel’s and concentrating on the uplifting beginning of Jesus’ life rather than the violent close.
Unfortunately for potential viewers, the trailer for “The Nativity Story” has gotten this film’s nature exactly wrong. This is not a chance to “experience the most timeless of stories as you’ve never seen it before” but just the opposite: an opportunity, for those who want it, to encounter this story exactly the way it’s almost always been told.
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When Hollywood faces off against religion, you don’t even have to ask which force will come out on top.
Huh?
’The Nativity Story’
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http://www.calendarlive.com/images/standard/blackpix.gifA "Story" told with too much naiveté.As Mel Gibson’s “The Passion of the Christ” powerfully demonstrated, lots of people are willing to spend serious money to see films with Christian subject matter. “The Nativity Story” is attempting to tap into that market by Leaving to Mel the Things That Are Mel’s and concentrating on the uplifting beginning of Jesus’ life rather than the violent close.
Unfortunately for potential viewers, the trailer for “The Nativity Story” has gotten this film’s nature exactly wrong. This is not a chance to “experience the most timeless of stories as you’ve never seen it before” but just the opposite: an opportunity, for those who want it, to encounter this story exactly the way it’s almost always been told.
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When Hollywood faces off against religion, you don’t even have to ask which force will come out on top.
Huh?
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