Moving to another country--have you ever thought about it?

[whatevergirl]

I am Scottish and live in Scotland Funny how that works.
But to get to the point, I think most ppl, espescially Catholics, are trying to run away from the problems each of our societies is throwing at us. Scotland at one time was a hotbed of anti-Catholicism, it still is in some places, espescially the west coast. I have often thought of moving away just because of it but never did. And since it seems to be dying down and Scotland is becoming more secularised, we see bigger problems that are effecting all peoples and not just Scottish Catholics[we are a tad paranoid] The problems Catholics face today is worldwide not regional So, now I have realised that there is no place to run, I may aswell stay and fight my corner.
So, my answer is NO! dont leave, stay and fight the good fight.

You make such a great point. I think I should rename this thread…“moving to another PLANET…have you ever thought about it?”

 

[KingAlfred]

I have lived in Germany and traveled a lot in Europe. The question is: If you are going to move to another country, where you gonna go?
Many European countries are very accepting of living together before marriage, abortion, contraception, euthanasia, drug use, prostitution, etc.
Would you really want to live in a third world nation in Asia, South America, or Africa?
Japan is shockingly expensive and crowded. Although I admit, I know very little about it other than that.
I would say, stay here and work to make the USA the country it should be.

I agree. What will become of our country if we abandon it? Presently, it’s in the grip of a great evil, an evil that has to be fought and turned back. Personally, I’m prepared to die for my country, for Traditional America, the Christian-based society I grew up knowing and loving. Yes…I would rather die than surrender to the mendacious forces of Marxism, Islam, and/or new-age paganism. I’ll stay and *fight. *

 

[seremina]

Why not try Kansas? I hear its becoming so Catholic, you would feel you’re in a different country. When I move back to the USA, I’m not sure if I’m going to move there or some other warm State. Of course, it depends on how my vocation goes, too. I’m grateful there’s lots of convents in the USA.

I thought Canada would be great. In my opinion, it isn’t. There was a lot to get used to though the language is the same. The slang isn’t the same, but I didn’t care to learn slang here anyway. I’m surprised how hard it is to get Canadian citizenship. I read somewhere that Canadian citizenship is the hardest one to go for, in the world. Hard to believe, though they’re so close to the USA.

 

[GerlyOne]

I won’t name the candidate name…but if a certain someone is elected as President of the USA in this upcoming election–my husband and I have strongly considered leaving the U.S. I know–sounds crazy, right? But, should it? My and my husband’s employer…are global–and there are offices in most countries. We discussed moving to Japan, if this candidate were to be elected. The thought of our tax dollars going to support this person’s (personal) agenda, is something that is really not sitting well with us. Now, the person has not won yet, but we are thinking of moving out of the country if it happens.

Are we insane? I suppose we would have to see if Japan’s government holds the values that we hold. My husband said that there are a lot of luxuries that he could see me missing–luxuries that are actually just basic everyday things to us here in this country–but are luxuries to others, in countries outside of the US. I haven’t thought that far. Does not HAVE to be Japan, as we are also tossing around the idea of Australia.

What are your thoughts? I would be interested also in hearing from people on here who have moved from the US, to another country, and why, and how you did it–and are you happy you did it? Thank you.

I have been an ex-pat and there is a lot of opportunity and adventure in it. Yes, you will definitely miss the good ol’ USofA, I did…I am fortunate, however, in having been blessed with a family that loves to travel…

There is so much out there for Americans, just do more research and see where it takes you.

I enjoy reading your posts, you’re a huge contributor! :angel1:

 

[whatevergirl]

Hi WG,

Unless you intend to give up your citzenship I am sure you will have to continue to pay your tax dollars. I write from Singapore and know many US citzens who have been posted to Singapore to work.

The grass is always greener on the other side I have lived in the mid-west for over 2 years and spend time in NYC and Miami for work. After a while nothing beats being at home. But if there is any Asian country to live, I would say Singapore. It is very easy to adapt to Singapore living, that doesn’t mean we don’t have our own problems with the Government. There is just no perfect world There is another thread that brought up the idea of offering Mass for our leaders. If you stay where you are, you by living your Catholic beliefs can change the way things are. But if you move, you don’t change anything… food for thought

I appreciate your post, it’s funny, but since posting this, I kind of felt a little silly posting this:blush: , although, there are times when I wish there was that perfect utopia out there…but you’re right, there is no ‘perfect place.’

 

[noodles]

hi WG

well, japan is a nice country. I have so many friends who have been there and also who are there living permanently. according to them regarding the language, nihonggo is very easy to learn. in a matter of 2-3 months, they were able to speak nihonggo fluently so i think you will not have a hard time like me. iam in china and after living here for almost 2 years, i can speak a lil chinese.
cost of living is expensive they said. but japan is a really nice country.

its right that you ask people about their ideas because if you will rely on tourist books or internet about information, of course you will just see good things about it because they are advertising. its good to know how to live a real life in a particular country.

may you end up with the right decision and may you have a good life ahead of you.

noodles

 

[Gearoidin]

hi WG

regarding the language, nihonggo is very easy to learn. in a matter of 2-3 months, they were able to speak nihonggo fluently so i think you will not have a hard time like me. iam in china and after living here for almost 2 years, i can speak a lil chinese.
cost of living is expensive they said. but japan is a really nice country.

noodles

Wow, you must have some really smart friends! I’ve lived here 10+ years and there is no way I would describe my Japanese as fluent. Sure, I can get by quite well in all the usual situations but I’m not fluent outside of these. I know people who have lived here 25 years or more and will say that they speak good Japanese but would never describe themselves as fluent.
People who come here as children or in their early teens can become fluent very quickly but most adults can’t.
I don’t know how your friends managed to learn 2000-3000 kanji in 2 -3 months. It takes most people years to reach that level. Even the Chinese students at the university where I work say that it took them 2-3 years to reach Level 1 in the Japanese language test and they already knew the kanji (well the meaning but not the pronunciation).
Gearoidin

 

[whatevergirl]

See? I’d have friends from CAF in other parts of the world…my family and I wouldn’t be alone.

 

[ac_claire]

I don’t know, I’m pretty happy with the United States lol. But I have thought about moving to England someday if that’s the direction that God moves our family.

Anyone here have any experience of moving from the US to the UK?

 

[JimTheTim]

I live not too far from England, and some parts are beautiful. I would say that once you get there, and get settled in, you will see that people are the same as they are back home. You will find 3 kinds of Catholics, those that love the the Church, those that are lukewarm and the lapsed. But with 1/4 of million Anglicans soon to be coming back home to Rome, it seems as if it could get exciting down there.

 

[Stella76]

I’ve lived in Ireland, in Canada, and in the States, and I’ve found that no matter where I’ve lived, there were always the same problems we have here in the States in varying degrees.

I’d say move if you’d like a challenge and if you’d like to broaden your experience of the world! That’s always a good thing.

*Stella

 

[pedro22031]

I have thought about it and considered, Germany, New Zealand and South Korea. These all have very strict immigrationpolicies. I will just stay here and make the most of the situation, after all it will only be 4 years (or less) until he falls flat on his face and is exposed to what and who he truly is. After that it will not matter where you live, imho/

 

[The_Wife]

My husband had a job offer that involved moving out of the country. We gave it serious consideration, but ultimately stayed as the negotiations didn’t work out to our satisfaction.

The other country was an English speaking country. We looked carefully at some cultural differences without the major language barriers. The research we did for moving out of the country helped me understand better some of the cultural adjustment issues that we had experienced with our moves within the US. We’ve lived in different states, and looking at a move outside of the US helped me better appreciate the diversity of our 50 states. Our last move (to the state where we live now) was a difficult adjustment for me. Now that I’m mostly adjusted, my husband is looking at jobs in other states.

 

[mystified]

Not oonly have I thought about it, but if God is willing, my future posts will soon be from the mountains fo cental Mexico.
My soon-to-be hometown is 100% Catholic, has no crime rate, has weather very much like that of my US birthplace, is affordable, peaceful but not isolated, has fine university hospitals not too far away, and by not being one who has lived a life of excesses, this fits my “style”, among friendly people who greet each other on the street.
I know this is the right move for me, and is not base on politics, but on dozens of sometimes extended visits there during the past 20 years.
No I am not Mexican, but this Irish-Cherokee is conversant in Spanish, enough to be invited to teach there, and who does not need to raise his voice like an Ugly American to be understood.

 

[lobster]

I thought many times about leaving the country. I could in a heartbeat if I wanted too and I would miss a thing. What holds me back though is my involvment in the pro-life movement. I couldn’t bring myself to abandon the unborn depending on us to do something for them. Then I think, where sin abounds, there also grace abounds.
It is easy to think of myself only and move to where life is respected and the Church is orthodox and so on.
For the same reason I choose to remain in the liberal diocese that I am in and remain the outspoken thorn in the side to all the progressive ‘ideas’.
FWIW.