Much Help Needed

[Escopiliatese]

Disclaimer: I will be posting links to sites that may seem anti-catholic. They are not, but they are crucial to my question. Please do not remove my post due to the content of the links.

I have been having a “spiritual crisis” for the past year or so, and I am getting to a point of extreme stress and fear. About a year ago, I’ve found a woman named Stacie Spielman and her website. She claims that she suffered under the hands of demonic spirits for years, believing all the lies that we’re fed to her by her alleged “spirit guides,” who later revealed their true identity. Ever since then, she’s been working with victims of demonic harassment for years. The only problem is that, besides her extreme credibility and the biblical nature of her claims, she made some comments that initiated this crisis. I summarize them as follows -

• Anything that has power assigned to it (blessed crucifix, holy water, bible, rosary, amulet, charm, etc) is of the occult and allows demonic spirits the rights to enter your life and harass you.
• The Bible does not mention anything about Mary or the other saints being able to answer prayers or being divine, and only instructs us to pray to God in Jesus’ name.

• (Stacie Spielman makes a good point here; I am aware of all the arguments for praying to saints, but nevertheless the bible doesn’t say we should pray to anyone but God, not even Jesus)

Stacie makes it clear in her numerous books that every time she’s worked with a Catholic victim, hundred percent of the time demonic spirits have manifested due to victim doing the above points. This is all purely through experience, she says.

What scares me even more however, is that in my research to see if anyone else shares her beliefs, I’ve founded that yes, someone else has quite a similar story of Catholic-induced demonic harassment.

I can tell you that I am not free of demonic-harassment. Something evil is always around me, I can sense it! If she is wrong, why would the demonic spirits manifest for the victim practicing Catholicism? They can’t lie if they are commanded to manifest in the name of The Lord Jesus Christ. I’ve been trying to find a priest, but it’s been extremely hard to, so I’m coming to you all. Please, these websites will question your beliefs, but take a good look around and provide your opinion. I need to put an end to this crisis.

staciespielman.com/OpenDoors.htm
staciespielman.com/ProtectionFromDemonicForces.htm
demonbuster.com/cath.htm

Only a few links. It would help if you looked around more.

 

[Oren]

Everything you’ve said is complete hogwash. I would tell you to stop reading about these things first of all. Second of all, talk to a priest. Why are you having trouble finding a priest to talk to? If you feel an evil presence…there are any number of explanations. No one is going to be able to tell you why over the internet. You need to go to a priest and talk to him. Seeing a psychiatrist wouldn’t be there worst advice either.

 

[Escopiliatese]

Everything you’ve said is complete hogwash. I would tell you to stop reading about these things first of all. Second of all, talk to a priest. Why are you having trouble finding a priest to talk to? If you feel an evil presence…there are any number of explanations. No one is going to be able to tell you why over the internet. You need to go to a priest and talk to him. Seeing a psychiatrist wouldn’t be there worst advice either.

You did do any of what I asked of you. Did you even read my entire post?

 

[Oren]

Yes, I read it.

 

[Escopiliatese]

Everything you’ve said is complete hogwash. I would tell you to stop reading about these things first of all. Second of all, talk to a priest. Why are you having trouble finding a priest to talk to? If you feel an evil presence…there are any number of explanations. No one is going to be able to tell you why over the internet. You need to go to a priest and talk to him. Seeing a psychiatrist wouldn’t be there worst advice either.

Can you please explain why all this is “hogwash?”

 

[Oren]

Simple explanation for you. What you’re saying, what this woman you’re reading is saying, is against what the Holy Catholic Church teaches. If it goes against what she teaches, then you need to stay away from it.

 

[Beryllos]

May I suggest you stop reading those heretical websites and familiarize yourself with this one:

The Catechism of the Catholic Church

And please see a priest, and go to Mass every Sunday.

I am praying for you. May the Holy Spirit assist and guide you always toward a life of peace and love.

 

[tbcrawford]

Disclaimer: I will be posting links to sites that may seem anti-catholic. They are not, but they are crucial to my question. Please do not remove my post due to the content of the links.

I have been having a “spiritual crisis” for the past year or so, and I am getting to a point of extreme stress and fear. About a year ago, I’ve found a woman named Stacie Spielman and her website. She claims that she suffered under the hands of demonic spirits for years, believing all the lies that we’re fed to her by her alleged “spirit guides,” who later revealed their true identity. Ever since then, she’s been working with victims of demonic harassment for years. The only problem is that, besides her extreme credibility and the biblical nature of her claims, she made some comments that initiated this crisis. I summarize them as follows -

• Anything that has power assigned to it (blessed crucifix, holy water, bible, rosary, amulet, charm, etc) is of the occult and allows demonic spirits the rights to enter your life and harass you.
• The Bible does not mention anything about Mary or the other saints being able to answer prayers or being divine, and only instructs us to pray to God in Jesus’ name.

• (Stacie Spielman makes a good point here; I am aware of all the arguments for praying to saints, but nevertheless the bible doesn’t say we should pray to anyone but God, not even Jesus)

Stacie makes it clear in her numerous books that every time she’s worked with a Catholic victim, hundred percent of the time demonic spirits have manifested due to victim doing the above points. This is all purely through experience, she says.

What scares me even more however, is that in my research to see if anyone else shares her beliefs, I’ve founded that yes, someone else has quite a similar story of Catholic-induced demonic harassment.

I can tell you that I am not free of demonic-harassment. Something evil is always around me, I can sense it! If she is wrong, why would the demonic spirits manifest for the victim practicing Catholicism? They can’t lie if they are commanded to manifest in the name of The Lord Jesus Christ. I’ve been trying to find a priest, but it’s been extremely hard to, so I’m coming to you all. Please, these websites will question your beliefs, but take a good look around and provide your opinion. I need to put an end to this crisis.

staciespielman.com/OpenDoors.htm
staciespielman.com/ProtectionFromDemonicForces.htm
demonbuster.com/cath.htm

Only a few links. It would help if you looked around more.

Hello Escopiliatese

I am sorry you are suffering and you must feel so afraid. Sometimes in life we find ourselves in situations that we don’t understand and seek answers…but perhaps from the wrong places. I do not need to look at the links you have provided to know the only end to this crisis is to stay away from places like this and speak with a priest as soon as possible.

There are those who are tested in their faith and suffer under spiritual attack throughout the world. The best help you could get would be to speak to a priest. There are trained Exorcist priests in most Dioceses throughout the world.

However investigations will be needed to see if this is indeed what is happening.There may be many other reasons for things that are happening to you that have other solutions.

Regarding praying to Our Lady and the Saints. I ask in petition to Mary or some of the Saints to PRAY FOR the intention I need prayers for.I ask Mary or Saints to pray on my behalf for the intention needed. For example we know it is far more likely that Our Lord would hear the prayers of Our Lady before any of us…therefore we ask the Saints or Our Lady to pray on our behalf. We are not praying TO Our Lady or the Saints.

Prayer has different forms - we praise God, we thank Him and we request help.
When I request help for others and my own needs I often ask Our Lady to intercede for us.
I hope this helps explain this a little better.

It sounds like you could do with a spiritual advisor to chat to and gain a bit more knowledge.This way you will feel more confident and less afraid.Your faith will keep you strong and bring an end to this crisis.

These prayers are for you.
God bless you

Lord please help our Friend to find the answers to her fears and find deep faith in You.Please keep her safe Lord and guide her to have the strength to speak to a priest as soon as possible, Thankyou Lord for hearing our prayers Amen

Eternal God , in whom mercy is endless,
and the treasury of compassion inexhastible ,
look kindly upon us and increase Your mercy in us ,
that in difficult moments we might not despair
nor become despondent , but with great confidence ,
submit ourselves to Your Holy Will ,
which is love and mercy itself . Amen

Memorare (Prayer to Our Lady)
Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary, that never was it known that anyone who fled to your protection, implored your help, or sought your intercession, was left unaided.
Inspired by this confidence, I fly unto you, O Virgin of virgins, my Mother. To you do I come, before you I stand, sinful and sorrowful. O Mother of the Word Incarnate, despise not my petitions, but in your mercy, hear and answer me. Amen

 

[yay_peheha]

hello,
i am new to all this thought i will post my question here and hope i get prayers and advice on how to handle this situation.
ok here goes
i have just started my specialization at this hospital and i have no idea what the rules are but I suppose they are the same as in any other teaching hospital
i recently realised that i am attracted to my attending( that is the consultant )
whatever way i look at it. it isnt good for me.

1. an attending should never be involved with a junior dr because he is the teacher and therefore will lose respect for it
2. as the junior dr my life will become a whole lot more complicated with colleagues assuming whatever you do- if its good you were told by your attending boyfriend, if its bad ah you cant be bothered because you think you are above the law because of your attending boy friend
   3.i am in south africa were the rift between blacks and whites is still as evident as it was in america in the 1940s.and i am black and he is white.
3. he has a kid, and i am not sure if he is married or not, doesnot wear a wedding ring but in the medical field that doesnt mean a thing
4. initially i was under a different consultant-R and it was easier to avoid making a fool of myself because i didnt meet this attending i am attracted to whom we will call P unfortunately last friday i was moved to P’s group and have to work with him.
   It isnt easy and i think if i havent made a fool of my self already it is only a matter of time before i do.
   can anybody give me advice and prayers on how to avoid a relationship that is definitely going to be inappropriate.:banghead:
   i need peace and quiet right now in my life so i can work hard and pass my exams and finally become a specialist in 4years.

 

[Prodigal_Son]

hello,
i am new to all this thought i will post my question here and hope i get prayers and advice on how to handle this situation.
ok here goes
i have just started my specialization at this hospital and i have no idea what the rules are but I suppose they are the same as in any other teaching hospital
i recently realised that i am attracted to my attending( that is the consultant )
whatever way i look at it. it isnt good for me.

1. an attending should never be involved with a junior dr because he is the teacher and therefore will lose respect for it
2. as the junior dr my life will become a whole lot more complicated with colleagues assuming whatever you do- if its good you were told by your attending boyfriend, if its bad ah you cant be bothered because you think you are above the law because of your attending boy friend
   3.i am in south africa were the rift between blacks and whites is still as evident as it was in america in the 1940s.and i am black and he is white.
3. he has a kid, and i am not sure if he is married or not, doesnot wear a wedding ring but in the medical field that doesnt mean a thing
4. initially i was under a different consultant-R and it was easier to avoid making a fool of myself because i didnt meet this attending i am attracted to whom we will call P unfortunately last friday i was moved to P’s group and have to work with him.
   It isnt easy and i think if i havent made a fool of my self already it is only a matter of time before i do.
   can anybody give me advice and prayers on how to avoid a relationship that is definitely going to be inappropriate.:banghead:
   i need peace and quiet right now in my life so i can work hard and pass my exams and finally become a specialist in 4years.

Hello!

I’m not sure why you posted this question here, but I’ll give you an answer anyway.

There’s nothing at all wrong with being attracted to your attending doc. Just don’t lean into the attraction, and don’t make any advances. If God wants you to be in a relationship sometime down the road, then that opportunity will present itself. But right now, you need to discipline your thoughts and lean away from that relationship.

If this sounds to you like it will be extremely hard, I would ask you about your patterns of behaving toward men in the past. Your question seems to suggest that, simply because you’re attracted, you need to pursue a relationship with this man. But attractions don’t determine actions!

God bless!

 

[yay_peheha]

thanks
i didnt know under what forum to put my question and also i tried looking for a way to set up a thread but couldnt find the new thread thingy so just decided to try my luck here.

to your question unfortunately i usually follow through with my attractions,
have been trying over the past 2 years and have succeeded in staying single and close to God thats why i find it very frustrating that this time i feel like i used to 2 years ago where i tended to live my life like in the fairy tales.

thanks for your help
i was thinking may be i should say the st michael novena,or is there another novena which addresses my problem directly:shrug:

 

[Prodigal_Son]

to your question unfortunately i usually follow through with my attractions,

Well then, were you just expecting that God would never place another attraction before you, and would never challenge you to grow in discipline? This is an opportunity to do something you’ve rarely done before, to choose Christ instead of your flesh!

You cannot do this on your own, however. When you are tempted, call out to the Lord for help. He will give you strength. You might think of your situation as an addiction to relationships, so you need to learn to break the cycle of addiction. Even when the object of your desire is very close to you throughout the day.

have been trying over the past 2 years and have succeeded in staying single and close to God thats why i find it very frustrating that this time i feel like i used to 2 years ago where i tended to live my life like in the fairy tales.

No, in the fairy tales the princes make promises and keep them. You were probably living your life like in soap operas, not fairy tales.

I will pray for you. And I encourage you to spend time just listening to God the Father, and hearing what He has for you!

 

[agnes_therese]

May I suggest you stop reading those heretical websites and familiarize yourself with this one:

The Catechism of the Catholic Church

And please see a priest, and go to Mass every Sunday.

I am praying for you. May the Holy Spirit assist and guide you always toward a life of peace and love.

This. Why do you pay attention to such anti-catholic diatribes?

 

[JRKH]

I have been having a “spiritual crisis” for the past year or so, and I am getting to a point of extreme stress and fear.

Peace be to you. God is near. I hope that we will be able to give you some comfort and guidance here.

I have not visited the sites you link to below…preferring instead to address the specific items that are of concern to you.

• Anything that has power assigned to it (blessed crucifix, holy water, bible, rosary, amulet, charm, etc) is of the occult and allows demonic spirits the rights to enter your life and harass you.

The main problem with this idea is that if flies in the face of Jesus own words about a house being divided against itself not being able to stand. An item blessed in God’s name cannot be a tool of the evil one. However - and this is important - - The presence of such items can heighten the awareness of an evil presence. So rather than “allowing” the evil spirit certain rights…it can make one more acutely aware of the presence. This in itself can be troubling.

Second - but of equal importance is that the person using the blessed object can place too much confidence in the item. When one does this, they fail to do what they need to in order to overcome the evil. Like the person who buys a piece of exercise equipment and then hardly ever uses it, the results will be disappointing.

I suspect that where Ms Spielman has found success is with such people who have placed too much reliance on blessed items and not enough on building up their own faith and understanding and resistance to the evil presence.

So it’s not that the blessed items themselves are bad, but rather that the person using it has placed too much confidence in the item and too little confidence in the Holy Spirit dwelling within them.

• The Bible does not mention anything about Mary or the other saints being able to answer prayers or being divine, and only instructs us to pray to God in Jesus’ name.

• (Stacie Spielman makes a good point here; I am aware of all the arguments for praying to saints, but nevertheless the bible doesn’t say we should pray to anyone but God, not even Jesus)

This is simply a common Sola Scriptura based argument that ignores things that the Bible DOES say.
We are to pray for and with each other…
Those who believe in Christ will never die…
God is the God of the Living - not of the dead…
From these things and others…it is easily extrapolated that if we can ask our neighbor here to pray with and for us then we can ask those in heaven to pray with and for us.

Stacie makes it clear in her numerous books that every time she’s worked with a Catholic victim, hundred percent of the time demonic spirits have manifested due to victim doing the above points. This is all purely through experience, she says.

Yes - it is her experience…with certain Catholics…but what is missing here is the number of times that a Catholic DOES overcome evil through the use of properly applied Catholic means.
There is much more going on than simply having a blessed item or praying to a saint.

What scares me even more however, is that in my research to see if anyone else shares her beliefs, I’ve founded that yes, someone else has quite a similar story of Catholic-induced demonic harassment.

I don’t understand what you mean by “Catholic-induced” demonic harassment…

I can tell you that I am not free of demonic-harassment. Something evil is always around me, I can sense it! If she is wrong, why would the demonic spirits manifest for the victim practicing Catholicism?

Demons Love to attack those who Love Jesus…Even Jesus himself was not free of temptation as the 40 days in the desert demonstrates. In following Christ we should not expect to be totally free of such harassment over the entire course of our lives.
The key is to build up ones’ faith in Christ, in Love, in all of the things that the demons hate because they cannot understand or overcome them.

They can’t lie if they are commanded to manifest in the name of The Lord Jesus Christ. I’ve been trying to find a priest, but it’s been extremely hard to, so I’m coming to you all.

As another has already said…we are extremely limited in what we can do on the internet. I do hope that you will be able to find a priest soon.
If I may suggest…call the Chancery in your area and tell them that you are struggling with demonic harassment and ask them to recommend someone. They can probably put you in touch with someone who specializes in this type of thing.

I hope that I have helped in some small way.

Peace
James

 

[yay_peheha]

Well then, were you just expecting that God would never place another attraction before you, and would never challenge you to grow in discipline? This is an opportunity to do something you’ve rarely done before, to choose Christ instead of your flesh!

You cannot do this on your own, however. When you are tempted, call out to the Lord for help. He will give you strength. You might think of your situation as an addiction to relationships, so you need to learn to break the cycle of addiction. Even when the object of your desire is very close to you throughout the day.

No, in the fairy tales the princes make promises and keep them. You were probably living your life like in soap operas, not fairy tales.

I will pray for you. And I encourage you to spend time just listening to God the Father, and hearing what He has for you!

Thanks so much prodigal_son.
thanks alot. i feel so much better
thank you.

 

[yay_peheha]

Well then, were you just expecting that God would never place another attraction before you, and would never challenge you to grow in discipline? This is an opportunity to do something you’ve rarely done before, to choose Christ instead of your flesh!

You cannot do this on your own, however. When you are tempted, call out to the Lord for help. He will give you strength. You might think of your situation as an addiction to relationships, so you need to learn to break the cycle of addiction. Even when the object of your desire is very close to you throughout the day.

No, in the fairy tales the princes make promises and keep them. You were probably living your life like in soap operas, not fairy tales.

I will pray for you. And I encourage you to spend time just listening to God the Father, and hearing what He has for you!

Thanks so much prodigal_son.
thanks alot. i feel so much better
thank you.

 

[Prodigal_Son]

Thanks so much prodigal_son.
thanks alot. i feel so much better
thank you.

You’re welcome!

 

[Pablopedro]

• Anything that has power assigned to it (blessed crucifix, holy water, bible, rosary, amulet, charm, etc) is of the occult and allows demonic spirits the rights to enter your life and harass you.
• The Bible does not mention anything about Mary or the other saints being able to answer prayers or being divine, and only instructs us to pray to God in Jesus’ name.

• (Stacie Spielman makes a good point here; I am aware of all the arguments for praying to saints, but nevertheless the bible doesn’t say we should pray to anyone but God, not even Jesus)

Both of these statements are completely incorrect. Blessed crucifixes, holy water, bibles, and rosaries are all blessed in the name of The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. There is nothing occult what-so-ever about them.

Occult deals with unknown, and often un-named, entities and there-in lies its immense danger.

The Bible constantly shows saints and Jesus answering prayers, yes even while they were on Earth.

In fact Jesus’ first public miracle was done due to the intercession of Mary, Peter healed the beggar outside the Temple after the man implored him to, Jesus healed many people after they begged Him to or had sufficient faith in who He was, etc. Every one of these are examples of prayer…and the first two are perfect examples of the intercessory power of the saints.

I would suggest to you that your source is someone who you should avoid and stop listening to. She doesn’t even seem to be Christian to begin with.

Her recommendation is essentially do not keep blessed objects around, do not pray to saints, do not pray to Jesus? Stay far, far away.